Liqaye Posted October 31, 2008 the islah movement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 31, 2008 Great 10 points. Many thanks to Liqaye, i will read it latter insha Allah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted October 31, 2008 The good Sheikh Shareef comes to my mind, hopefully they will have future in Somalia's new political beginning(Islamic parties) And I believe their model of governance is what Somalia needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liqaye Posted October 31, 2008 It is indeed a very intreasting read, their interpretation of democracy in Islam as well as their interaction with other Muslims and Sufi groups is particularly worthwhile. The respect they have for their political heritage as well as their realization that interpretation of Islamic practice although based on universal concepts and foundations is also a product of the local culture is a refreshing break from the actions of the flag burning al-turkis amongst us. Through out this manifesto their runs a genuine openness to reconciliation and discussions. Something that is so lacking in the practice of the TFG cabal and the Islamic groups forming the resistance. Also they way they have realized how their goals which is an Islamic somali republic, should be brought by ways other than what might have been enunciated by Hassan al-Banna, but based on education, social welfare, education based on mutual respect and the peaceful influencing of the politics of the land is something I think so many Somalis can get behind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted October 31, 2008 Absolutely agree with you Deputy and correct me if I am wrong, I see them as if they have the same political platform or even an identical to the one of the ruing Islamic party in Turkey, which I really have a big admiration. I hope Xiin will come back and enlighten us more about Al-Islah in Somalia and their political goals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hassan6734 Posted November 1, 2008 I hate the word "moderation" of Islam. We don't want fake moderate islam, we want real pure and true Islam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted November 1, 2008 I hate the word we. Unless you are some unkown monarch use I. And god help us if the ikhwaans are the moderates in islamic movements in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted November 1, 2008 Naxar, I agree with Hassan6734 and that makes us "we". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted November 1, 2008 LOL, i doubt hassan was thinking about you when he wrote that. In any case, if he speaks for you, as odd as that is on a public forum, he should just say zack and I... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted November 1, 2008 Hassan, I hope your getting paid for this position as Zack's spokesperson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somali citizen Posted November 7, 2008 their political statements are consistant, this interview took place last year and this reflects how thier policy is inherently nationalistic. The Somali scene is witnessing a serious escalation; like its fast ascension to rule, the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC) collapsed within a few hours, leaving the Somali arena teeming and surging with many new incidents, including a new occupation by the Ethiopian forces while the only loser is the Somali people. Therefore, Ikhwanweb holds this interview with Mr. Abd Al-Rahman Ma’lam Abdullah (Badew), the Vice-Chairman of Harakat Al-Islah (Reform Movement) in Somalia and the chairman of Al-Islah Committee for Reconciliation (Muslim Brotherhood) to understand the real situations there and the Muslim Brotherhood’s attitude towards them. Ikhwanweb:- What is the movement’s attitude towards the current incidents?; will it have a role in resisting the Ethiopian forces? Abd Al-Rahman Ma’lam: in the name of Allah; prayer and peace be on the Master of Messengers, his family and companions. First: I offer my thanks to our brothers- the staff of Ikhwanweb- for their great concern in the issues of the Islamic Nation, particularly those of the Somali people who are considered a part of this nation which is currently facing many successive crises. On the Day of Arafa, the Day of Sacrifice, in 1427, corresponding to Dec. 30, 2006, the Ethiopian forces accompanied by units of Somali Army affiliated to the interim government, entered the Somali capital, Mogadishu; one day earlier, the UIC forces withdrew suddenly and unexpectedly from Mogadishu; this serious event took place as a direct result of the complete failure of all reconciliation efforts, leading to the eruption of battles in all fronts; the UIC forces were defeated by the Ethiopian army and the interim government, after a week of bloody confrontations between both parties; the defeat of the UIC wasn expected because the military force of both sides wasn’t the same. Al-Islah Movement called for sparing the bloodshed between the interim government and the UIC, supported the efforts of the national reconciliation and rejected seeking a foreign intervention in Somalia, on the basis of its Islamic principles and its moderate understanding and permanent policy of closing ranks among all sides of the Somali body on sound foundations; Al-Islah’s attitude towards last year’s successive incidents and developments was clear: we were against war and confrontation, with reconciliation and sitting to the negotiation table to hold dialogue and consultations and solving all problems through peaceful means without using force and violence to achieve political gains whatever the circumstances are. Ikhwanweb: - What is your evaluation to the short period in which the UIC assumed power? Abd Al-Rahman Ma’lam: The period wasn’t enough to evaluate the UIC because it was less than a year and because the overall view did not become clear for the observer. However, the UIC has its achievements and its failures; As for its achievements, they are the following: -Defeating the warlords and disarming the militias in a very short period which raised the eye brows of observers. -Providing security in the UIC-controlled regions. -Opening Mogadishu port and the international airport. As for its failures: -Not presenting a clear political program and applicable stages to fill the vacuum. -Not forming administrative councils in the capital to run its affairs and carries out the necessary services for the society. Ikhwanweb:- What is your view to get out of the current crisis and solve the problem of security and stability in Somalia? Abd Al-Rahman Ma’lam:- Since the Somali country collapsed in 1991 till today, Al-Islah Movement has had its targets aims and constants on which it has built its graded attitudes and policies; the national reconciliation among Somali sides was the center from which the movement’s initiatives and attitudes were starting, out of our conviction that all the current disputes and problems must be solved through negotiations and dialogue; this is due to the fact that, after 16 years of continuous wars and unjust deadly conflicts, we reaped nothing but regret, loss of money and lives, and destruction of what our ancestors built with hard work throughout ages; without a full and real reconciliation that leads to tolerance, forgiveness and self-denial, the Somalis can not rebuild or defend their homeland again; according to our principles, we call on our people in Somalia to close ranks and to immediately seek a reconciliation; this is the only way to salvation, because the current events created a new unprecedented situation in Somalia history that requires practical steps and a serious thinking from all sections of society. As for the security, it is tied to the political harmony and the success of the reconciliation and negotiations among the Somali national powers; only at this time, the weapon becomes in safe hands, the hands of the police and the national army; and people will feel security at that time and will find a material and spiritual stability amid atmospheres of mutual confidence; fear and tyranny will vanish while peace, justice and freedom come back; only at that time, the stage of construction and cooperation starts to end the tragic scenes that led us to the dark tunnel and the social and economic misery and disintegration of the Somali country. Ikhwanweb: - Do you support that UN forces stay in Somalia? Abd Al-Rahman Ma’lam:- The Somali society lived for some two decades a state of violent chaos and an unprecedented lawlessness; these conditions created an environment which can easily explode for the following reasons: -There millions of weapons with the militias, individuals and tribes. -There is a society that has become familiar with using weapons for any reason. -There are generations of young who have been brought up amid chaos and lawlessness and need a rehabilitation. -There is a lack of trust among tribes and citizens because of wars and social injustices. For these reasons and others, the interim government can’t- alone and with personal efforts- control security and disarm the militias. Due to the fact that the Ethiopian troop withdrawal from the Somali territories is a popular and international demand and is, at the same time, necessary for the stability of Somalia and the region, and due to the fact that the interim government can not provide security in current stage, UN forces must be sent to Somalia to offer aid to Somali government, a necessity no an option. Ikhwanweb:- What is your evaluation to the role of Arab League and Arab countries in the current crisis? Abd Al-Rahman Ma’lam:- The Arab League had an active role after the UIC emerged and tried to bring closer the viewpoints between the UIC and the government and it contributed to arranging meetings between both sides in Khartoum; however, those efforts faced a complete failure because the attitudes of the Somali sides were inflexible; in addition to this, a number of Arab countries tried to improve situations and spare the country the consequences of a possible destructive war; UIC officials visited a number of Arab countries, topped by Sudan, Egypt, Yemen, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Djibouti; it is widely believed in the Somali arenas that the Arab countries were very keen to help the reconciliation between both sides succeed; some countries tried to persuade the UIC of sitting with the Ethiopian government to avoid any possible confrontation; although all Arab initiatives failed, but the Arab countries that tried to solve the Somali conflict exerted great efforts; as for their failure in this stage, it is attributed to two reasons: 1-The absence of the Arab effective role in the political and economic perspectives in the Somali arenas since the collapse of the Somali state; their role was never a leading one, but it was marginalized. 2-There was no unified Arab strategy towards the Somali issue; so, the Arab role in solving the Somali problem does not differ so much from the Arab role in the Arab troubled regions; however, we hope that the Arab efforts continue in Somalia. Ikhwanweb:- What is the message that you want to send to the international organizations and civil society institutions? Abd Al-Rahman Ma’lam:- We want to tell the world that the war-torn Somali people is part of this world and it is facing sharp crises nowadays, including political disputes, serious economic collapse and natural catastrophes that threaten millions of lives of its people; the world should deal with this issue more seriously, because solving its problems is a humane service on the one hand and a service to the security of region on the other hand; also, giving blind eyes to its agonies and leaving it to face its fate may lead to disastrous consequences that may have a negative impact on all the African Horn. As for the Arab world, we tell it that Somalia is considered, with its strategic position, an economic and security belt for the south of the Arab World; its destruction is a strategic loss that can not be restored; we hope that the Arab peoples support their brothers to ease their ordeal; do not fail them under any circumstances. Latest Headlines 4Obama and my Grandmother... 4Police Officer Case Against Al ... 4500 Employees At Monufyia’s Inf... 4Postponing Case Of Selling Alex... 4Kafr el-Sheikh: Detaining Eight... 4Let Palestinians study campaign... 4Ministry of prisoners: Israel i... 4Hamas denies reports about its ... 4The Middle East’s Generation Fa... 4Sarah Palin and the Muslim Brot... 4Palling with dictators?... 4Europe’s Muslims Urge Obama "Ov... 4Egyptian Al-Ghad Tomorrow’s Par... 4Obama’s freedom agenda?... 4The Day After….... 4Welcome to Mideast Peace, Presi... Prisoners Of Conscience MB in Press Egypt: Muslim Brotherhood Guide... Banned from Traveling... 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Member-sol- Posted November 8, 2008 Alislah waxaan ahayn dullinimo iyo in gaalo la isu dhiibo ma hayaan. Wali lama arag saxwooyinkan ikhwaanka loo yaqaano oo wax miro dhal ah keena. Waa fadhi ku dirrir asal ah, oo raba in eey shareecada ku soo celiyaan afkooda. Waa niman aaminsan in gaalo wax lala waadiga karo, oo saa eey wax ku keeni karaan. They have failed miserably in egypt and have been reduced to guest on aljazeera shows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted November 8, 2008 ^^ wHAT do you think they should have done in Egypt? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somali citizen Posted November 8, 2008 saxiib xamza islaax fadhi ku diri ma aha ee shaqo ayay habeen iyo maalin ku jiraan oo ummada soomaliyeed ayay badbaadinteeda ku jiraan, mar waa macalimiin mar waa culimo mar waa dhakhaatiir mar waa siyaasiyiin dadka heshiisiiya bal wax yar dhagayso heestan ay qaadayaan dhalinta al-islaax waa haddi aad soomali tahay lakiin waxaad dhihi doontaa waa hees oo waa xaraan lakiin anaashiidka carabta raalibaad ka tahay.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4U6d0Oof3HM&feature=related mar labaad eeg iyagoo u gurmanyaa dadka dhibaataysan halka inta kale xabad wax aan ahayn ayna garnaynin. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8HVNW1t6ecM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted November 8, 2008 ^^ and what is the official position of Alislah on music? bro, the consensus of the Ulema is that those types of musical instruments and music is haram and sinful. It doesn't matter whether you are singing in Arabic, Hindi or SOmali. Imam Shafici, the one they claim to follow his madhab , described the music listener as an idiat- whos testimony should be rejected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
