Peace Caravan v1.1: The coming of the Somali Republic!

[Member-sol-]

Sheekadu marka horeba hadii eey halkaan ku socotay, maxaa "nabad" iyo "wada hadal" marmarsiiyo looga dhigan.

 

Beenta ha la iska daayo, sheekha haduu boskii Yeey badalayo, oo taangi axmaaro ku hoos shaqayn, he will be treated no differently.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Believe or not, some have no qualms against Xabasho, but C/llaahi Yuusuf himself ayee necebyihiin, for the obvious main reason. Same with those would be against this dowlad ku sheeg the moment that octogenarian jagada laga qaado. Soomaalida waa dad yaabka kaa dhameynaayo mar mar.

[xiinfaniin]

Gudoomiyaha isbahaysiga ARS Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed ayaa rajo wanaagsan ka muujiyay kulanka lagu wado inuu Jabuuti ka dhaco [Oct 25, 2008] kaasoo ay isku arkayaan DF iyo ARS.

 

Sheekh Shariif, wuxuu sheegay in wadahadalada u socda ARS iyo DF laga gaaray guulo wax ku ool ah, isla markaana lagu wado in lagu saxiixo shirkan heshiiskii horay loo gaaray.

 

"Kulanka dhacaya waxaa lagu saxiixayaa heshiiskii la gaaray, kaasoo ay qodobadiisu ka mid yihiin bixitaanka ciidamada Ethiopia, xabadjoojin iyo weliba ka shaqeynta nabada Somalia" ayuu yiri Sheekh Shariif.

 

Sidoo kale Sheekh Shariif wuxuu sheegay in shirka ka dhacaya Jabuuti ay ka qaybgeli doonaan xubno ka socda beesha calaamka, kuwaasoo uu hogaaminayo ergayga gaarka ee Qarammada Midoobay u qaabilsan arimaha Somalia Ahmadou Ould-Abdallah.

 

Gudoomiyaha ARS wuxuu sidoo kale ka dhawaajiyay in shirka looga doodi doono burcadbadeeda iyo dhibaatooyinka ay ka wadaan biyaha Somalia, iyadoo lagu soo qaadi doono kaalinta beesha calaamka ee kaalmeynta dadka Soomaaliyeed iyo gaarsiinta mucaawinooyinka.

 

Sheekh Shariif, oo ku sugan dalka Yemen ayaa sheegay in heshiiska ugu dambeyn lagu saxiixi doono dalka Saudi Arabia, kadibna uu noqon doono dhaqangal ay fulinayaan mucaaradka iyo DF.

 

Gudoomiyuhu, wuxuu uga mahadceliyay madaxweynaha dalka Yemen Cali Cabdalla Saalax kaalinta uu kaga jiro dib u heshiisiinta Somalia iyo sida uu uga fikirayo nabad iyo daganaasho ka dhasha Somalia.

 

Garowe Online, Muqdisho

[NGONGE]

Who or what is DF, saaxib? This article is not saying anything new. The Sharif reminds me of dog (minus the insult of course) chasing its tail there.

[xiinfaniin]

DF=Dawladda Fedaraalka=TFG.

 

This article reinforces what i have been saying all along. Namely that the main heshiis is not signed yet. Sharif is saying that Oct. 25th will be a significant milestone toward that end.

 

Check this: Sheekh Shariif, oo ku sugan dalka Yemen ayaa sheegay in heshiiska ugu dambeyn lagu saxiixi doono dalka Saudi Arabia, kadibna uu noqon doono dhaqangal ay fulinayaan mucaaradka iyo DF..

[xiinfaniin]

NG, also there has been meetings between the two parties in S Africa. I think those meetings are begining to bear some fruits.

[Miskin]

Boys and Girls,

 

As the young generation of this land would you not rather discuss solutions and ways to reconcile rather then support and advocate for this group and that group.

 

The issue here shouldn't be about showing supports but about discussing ideas on how to raise this country from the ashes. I am sure if you put your bright young heads together you will come up with some meaningful ideas.

 

so put your heads to good use!!!!

 

Cheers

[ilax]

Xiin your peace caravan is neither moving nor have any strength at all. So far less effect on the ground, only on a political grapevine. However, Sheik Sharif has long way to go to get the lost peace back on the track. War nin yahaw rajada badan waa lagu lumaaye inoo yaree.

 

Maskin, Welcome saaxiib, here you go, get on board and gear up a posative shift on the debate.

[Abtigiis]

This Sheikh's declarations all suggest a disheartening abnegation, a puzzling and capitulationst climb-down from the plinth of leadership- both of thought and deeds. He is in the grip of giant anomie, profound wistefulness.

 

Thumbing my nose, cocking my snooks on his peace and all its desciples!

[xiinfaniin]

^^Being livid with your leader is sometimes wax bannaan. Xaq baad ugu leedahay adeer

[Baashi]

Bringing all warring Somalis to the dirrin is not an easy task. This is a very difficult proposition. Even if they manage to sit down and negotiate terms it is highly unlikely that they will be able to deliver the goods. Given the history of the conflict and the numerous efforts that ended up in the waste basket, cynics have a reason to doubt another attempt in bringing the conflict to a closure will succeed this time around. Still having willing partners at the command posts helps reduce the violence to tolerable levels.

 

All signs indicate that we got two major players who are willing to strike a deal. Inna Yussuf is in a pressure cooker. Shariif has a point to prove. They both have a political price to gain if they prove that peace is possible. The model Shariif and Inna Yussuf adopted as the main framework for lasting peace and political reconciliation is not the perfect model. Absence of any other effort toward that end, however, theirs becomes the default one.

 

The other competing model offered by other factions is a continuation of the war -- war they must win. If the folks who are pushing this approach have what it takes (military hardware, logistics, bases, trained soldiers, and above all the support of the masses) to defeat the other side, it would have been ok to consider this route. Guerrilla war, hit-and-run tactics do not cut it. These tactics can sure frustrate an army but the backlash is costly -- a cost civilians have to absorb. Knowing what we know today the fact of the matter is they don’t have the resources needed to attain the goal they set for themselves. It is true that their forces are highly motivated, extremely brave, have the ability to disrupt peace, and able to prove that TFG has no legs to stand. But proving that Swiss cheese has holes is not the end game here awoowe. It is like stating the obvious.

 

Mush has been made about the Ethiopian presence and the need to drive them out by force. The concern of Ethiopian presence and its incessant interference in Somali affairs is a concern shared by many. It is legit concern. The argument that Ethiopian presence in Somalia serves as a hindrance to the peace effort is a valid one. What is a hollow argument is the one that suspends any meaningful dialogue between opposing Somali factions prior to Ethiopian withdrawal. One can make their withdrawal as one goal out of the important outcomes of the dialogue!

 

The way ARS loaded this peace caravan is not the correct way. There is room for improvement. The knot is not tied properly there and the rope is not strong enough to hold things in place! But more importantly, the goods the caravan is carrying to the needy people on the other side of the mountain is assistance urgently needed and should not be delayed. In Boholaha Xargaga -- a rough terrain this caravan has no choice but to go through -- one must expect the unexpected.

 

Let them talk this one out. There is no harm in talking. And remember short of winning a decisive victory one has no choice but to engage his enemy. Awoowe it is the way of the world.

 

Xiin how is that for badhi-taar

[SayidSomal]

is this baashi or is it my eyes - war where have you been - minyaro miyaad heshay - xagee ka dhacday???

[Baashi]

I resist the temptation for hunting petite fruitcake that serves as a side dish. So minyaro biz is not my forte. Xiin and Castro are the leading manly men in this dept.

 

I've been busy awoowe. Work, personal stuff, etc.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Welcome Baashi.

 

 

Let them talk this one out. There is no harm in talking. And remember short of winning a decisive victory one has no choice but to engage his enemy. Awoowe it is the way of the world.

 

Baashi, the original author of the dirin discussion, summed it up..

[Abtigiis]

Originally posted by Baashi:

All signs indicate that we got two major players who are willing to strike a deal. Inna Yussuf is in a pressure cooker. Shariif has a point to prove. They both have a political price to gain if they prove that peace is possible. The model Shariif and Inna Yussuf adopted as the main framework for lasting peace and political reconciliation is not the perfect model. Absence of any other effort toward that end, however, theirs becomes the default one.

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Xiin how is that for

badhi-taar

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Baashi is back with trademark treacherous knavery. Sad to see that just at a time I was of the opinion his munching rest from the site must have been spent on making some serious soul-searching to come to his senses. Not this rigged facts, and harebrained interpretation of events in Somalia. Not this obsence comments, as obsence as two dogs behaving badly where there are people.

 

First, neither Sheikh Sharif nor Abdullahi Yusuf dictate the tempo of events in Somalia. As a matter of fact, Sheekh Shariif’s idea was to isolate the ‘unsalvageable crooks’ in the TFG and to deal with what he sees as the moderate elements in the false Government. Your attempt to paint Yusuf as a man who, even hypothetically, can think of peace is shameful. The track record tells otherwise. The precedence tells otherwise too. Remember: “Puppets do live on borrowed times, and not many do acquire any self-preservation instinct.” Luckily, he has more or less received the butt of history. He will only be remembered through dusty elegies for what he is: A useless traitor, who with his congenital wickedness led a nation to its abyss.

 

Second, it is not true that Abdullahi Yusuf is the man who is making decisions for the TFG. It is Ethiopia. Hence, if peace turns out to be what Abdullahi Yusuf desires for, it is logical to assume that Ethiopia is interested in peace as well. If so, what kind of peace? With whom? And on what condition? We can debate that. But outside the realm of the predilections of petty-stooges. There is no peace model adopted by either Abdullahi Yususf or the slouching novice Sheikh. Facts are facts.

 

Third, if they sign an agreement tomorrow, will it alter events on the ground? If it doesn’t, how will the sponsor’s of the TFG react? More importantly, who will compel Alshabab and the multitude of other liberation fighters to honour what they see as an illegitimate child born out of illegitimate fornication?

 

Saaxiib, TFG is a graft on a burnt skin, and like all dead tissues, it soon shrinks and shrivels, stretched by time and growth, leaving the original skin to cancerous wrinkles. The sooner you acknowledge this metaphysical fact, the better.

 

Finally, on the badh-taar ritual, it did not come as a surprise. You and Xinn, are both the immemorial owners of half-truths and rank hypocrisy.