TFG and Foreign Power

[DigibAc]

The TFG was formed in a foreign country.

 

They get their funding from foreign countries.

 

They are protected by foreign militaries.

 

They are constantly begging for move foreign money and military troops.

 

Have you noticed how much time the Yeey and Gedi spend in foreign countries? (**are they in Somali now?**)

 

So does the TFG work for foreigners or for the Somali people?

 

If I was a betting man, I would bet foreigners.

[ansaar17]

they are a deluded psycho paths.

 

they will be flushed down the toilet once the axmaar finish with them.

[Taliban]

TFG = Transitional Foreign Government

[ansaar17]

They surely are "transitional" as they won't last long.

[A.J. Timacadeh]

they will never be able to get any proper control in somalia so they are just looking at ways of filling their pockets.

 

the fact that they are allowing ethopian dogs to roam the street of somalia and destroy further somalia further from within. this should be an obvious sign of them being up to no good but there are deluded people who wont take off thier rose tintied glasses

[Taleexi]

It is always inspirational when seen a group of people or an individual exercising their or his/her freedom of expression.

[mwafrica]

What are your thoughts on the following?

 

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Somalia peace deal must be inclusive

 

Daily Nation, Kenya

EDITORIALS

Publication Date: 2/23/2007

 

The United Nations Security Council has this week given the green light for an African Union peacekeeping mission to be deployed to Somalia. The approval was granted on Tuesday, the same day 16 people were killed as mortar attacks and other violent incidents escalated in Mogadishu.

 

The threat of even more violence reinforces the need for an urgent military intervention to help stabilise the troubled Horn of Africa country.

 

Yet, ironically, it also makes the point that such intervention will not work if it is seen as merely designed to prop up a weak and ineffectual interim government.

 

The internationally-recognised administration managed to instal itself in Mogadishu only after troops from neighbouring Ethiopia, with American air support, routed the radical Islamists, who controlled most of the country.

 

The government continues to hold on to power only because of the protection provided by the Ethiopian forces. Thus, it is likely to be seen by the Somalis as a puppet regime serving Ethiopian and American interests.

 

If the African Union forces go into Somalia in such an environment, then they, too, could be seen as interlopers, merely succeeding the Ethiopians as an occupying force. The same will apply if, as envisaged, United Nations forces go into Somali once the mandate of the AU force expires in six months.

 

The peacekeeping operation has a noble motive — to provide peace and security, secure the infrastructure, provide humanitarian aid and security and to establish a truly national Somali military and police force.

 

But none of that will be accomplished if the peacekeeping forces go in without the goodwill and support of the people of Somalia. That is why it is important that reasonable and moderate groupings among the defeated Islamists are brought fully on board.

 

The important principle is that all interest groups must have a stake in the government, and thus be fully involved in efforts to stabilise the country.

 

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Uganda ready to help

 

NEWS

Story by Reuters

Publication Date: 2/24/2007

 

Uganda said Friday it was ready to send 1,500 peacekeepers to Somalia as the vanguard of a planned African Union force, but was waiting to finalise its mandate and get air transport.

 

Near-daily attacks by insurgents in Mogadishu have spurred calls for a speedy AU deployment to replace Ethiopian troops who helped Somalia’s interim government oust Islamist fighters in a December war -- but who are hated by many Somalis.

 

Air transport

 

“We will be leaving very soon,” State minister for Defence Ruth Nankabirwa told Reuters. “But it depends on procedures. We are waiting for Algeria, who promised to provide air transport.”

 

Soldiers from Nigeria, Ghana, Burundi and Malawi are also expected to join the proposed 8,000-strong peacekeeping force, which was authorised by the UN Security Council on Tuesday.

 

Ms Nankabirwa said Uganda also needed to sign a “status of forces” agreement with the African Union, which would give details of when and how the troops are allowed to use force and what their rights and responsibilities are.

 

She did not say when this might happen.

 

A Western diplomat told Reuters some Ugandan troops, including a junior mission commander, were already in Somalia.

 

Commanders

 

Somali government officials late on Thursday said the Ugandan’s Defence minister, Mr Crispus Kiyonga and other senior military commanders had visited the temporary capital, Baidoa.

[Taliban]

Originally posted by mwafrica:

What are your thoughts on the following?

Far better militarily superior, better financed, racially preferred (Caucasian), more number peacekeepers have been in Somalia in the early 90's. Somalia's Islamic insurgency has grassroots support from the majority of Somalis (both at home and in the diaspora), while the warlords of the 90's had limited support. I don't see how African peacekeepers can succeed where Caucasians have failed. The argument that African peacekeepers will be more brutal and less sensitive to Amnesty International and the media's condemnations-- simply will not work. Most important, the coming withdrawal of occupiers from Iraq and Afghanistan will have a ripple effect on Somalia's occupiers.

[mwafrica]

Taliban,

 

Thank you for your informative response.

 

I do agree with a number of things you said, particularly that majority of Somalis both at home and in the diaspora, support the Islamic insurgency. The reason for this seems to be quite understandable.

 

Meanwhile, what would you propose as the best way forward?

[rudy-Diiriye]

Originally posted by DigiTalbAct3ria:

The TFG was formed in a foreign country.

 

They get their funding from foreign countries.

 

They are protected by foreign militaries.

 

They are constantly begging for move foreign money and military troops.

 

Have you noticed how much time the Yeey and Gedi spend in foreign countries? (**are they in Somali now?**)

 

So does the TFG work for foreigners or for the Somali people?

 

If I was a betting man, I would bet foreigners.

lol... as the word says its transitional i guess!! i am taking bets to guess WHERE THE HECK YEEY IS TONITE!!u must guess the correct country to win. if hes at border, its draw. any betting ppl here!!

[Taliban]

Originally posted by mwafrica:

Meanwhile, what would you propose as the best way forward?

The conflict at its current stage is a unique kind of conflict; one that cannot be solved with negotiations. The only way to solve the conflict is force. Which part would win is clear, though it would take time and sacrifice. One thing is clear; Ethiopia would deeply regret it got involved in invading and occupying Somalia.

[Khalaf]

^^^I highly doubt that. U comparing the current conflict to 93 shows how naive u are about the new game sxb, ethios are not americans and this is not a conflict with aideed and his mooryan they were insignficant...mida kale US didnt want to lose men on "niggers" and somalia was spared due to clinton wining the elections bush wanted to blast xamar to stone age after things got ugly for the americans but luckly bush lost the election and xamar was spared.....the ethios are diff they are the best force to fight and keep somalis in check....somalis worst feared enemy....enemy that can fight u is one that knows u well and that is the ethiopians.....how many did they lose against erteria 100s of thousands? They dont count their dead, what makes u think they will count yours? Game is complicated sire.

 

also by saying "withdraw" of US troops from iraq/afghanstan naive again.... not gonna happen, US is building more bases n making premenant imprint in arabiya and asia.... more countries are on the way not less.......