WHY ISLAM and THE HOLY QURAAN are authentic and pure....

[RendezVous]

How do we know that a book "claimed" to be from God is really the Book of God? Surely the answer is tricky but the world agrees one thing:

 

The book you claim is "HOLY" , a Message emanating from an Omniscient Being MUST be consistent with itself. It ought to be free from all discrepancies and contradictions.

 

This is exactly what the LAST TESTAMENT , the Book of God, The Holy Quraan says in Chapter 4 Verse 82:

 

 

It says in short, had the Quraan been from "other" sources, they would find in it, lots of mistakes(mind you, some non-muslims, and christian propagandists have done their best to show some mis-translation, but were not fruitful)

 

Now since the Quraan has manifested itself as "Pure"..can we also test the other books of "other" religions and put them on "defensive" position?

 

 

I leave all nomads, especially our sisters to contribute as much as they can.......

[Socod_badne]

Begging the Question

Alias:

 

* Circular Argument

* Circulus in Probando

* Petitio Principii

* Vicious Circle

 

Etymology:

 

The phrase "begging the question", or "petitio principii" in Latin, refers to the "question" in a formal debate—that is, the issue being debated. In such a debate, one side may ask the other side to concede certain points in order to speed up the proceedings. To "beg" the question is to ask that the very point at issue be conceded, which is of course illegitimate.

 

Type: Informal Fallacy

 

Form:

 

Any form of argument in which the conclusion occurs as one of the premisses, or a chain of arguments in which the final conclusion is a premiss of one of the earlier arguments in the chain. More generally, an argument begs the question when it assumes any controversial point not conceded by the other side.

 

 

Example:

 

To cast abortion as a solely private moral question,…is to lose touch with common sense: How human beings treat one another is practically the definition of a public moral matter. Of course, there are many private aspects of human relations, but the question whether one human being should be allowed fatally to harm another is not one of them. Abortion is an inescapably public matter.

 

Source: Helen M. Alvaré, The Abortion Controversy, Greenhaven, 1995, p. 23.

 

Analysis

Exposition:

 

Unlike most informal fallacies, Begging the Question is a validating form of argument. Moreover, if the premisses of an instance of Begging the Question happen to be true, then the argument is sound. What is wrong, then, with Begging the Question?

 

First of all, not all circular reasoning is fallacious. Suppose, for instance, that we argue that a number of propositions, p1, p2,…, pn are equivalent by arguing as follows (where "p => q" means that p implies q):

 

p1 => p2 => … => pn => p1

 

Then we have clearly argued in a circle, but this is a standard form of argument in mathematics to show that a set of propositions are all equivalent to each other. So, when is it fallacious to argue in a circle?

 

For an argument to have any epistemological or dialectical force, it must start from premisses already known or believed by its audience, and proceed to infer a conclusion not known or believed. This, of course, rules out the worst cases of Begging the Question, when the conclusion is the very same proposition as the premiss, since one cannot both believe and not believe the same thing. Any viciously circular argument is one which attempts to infer a conclusion based ultimately upon that conclusion itself. Such arguments can never advance our knowledge.

Exposure:

 

The phrase "begs the question" has come to be used to mean "raises the question" or "suggests the question", as in "that begs the question" followed by the question supposedly begged. The following headlines are examples:

 

*

Warm Weather Begs the Question:

To Water or Not to Water Yard Plants

*

Latest Internet Fracas Begs the Question:

Who's Driving the Internet Bus?

*

Hot Holiday Begs Big Question:

Can the Party Continue?

 

This is a confusing usage which is apparently based upon a literal misreading of the phrase "begs the question". It should be avoided, and must be distinguished from its use to refer to the fallacy.

 

Subfallacies:

 

* Question-Begging Analogy

* Loaded Words

 

Source:

 

S. Morris Engel, With Good Reason: An Introduction to Informal Fallacies (Fifth Edition) (St. Martin's, 1994), pp. 144-149

Resources:

 

* Julian Baggini, "Begging the Question", Bad Moves, 7/13/2004

* Robert Todd Carroll, "Begging the Question", Skeptic's Dictionary

* Douglas N. Walton, "The Essential Ingredients of the Fallacy of Begging the Question", in Fallacies: Classical and Contemporary Readings, edited by Hans V. Hanson and Robert C. Pinto (Penn State Press, 1995), pp. 229-239

 

Acknowledgements:

 

Thanks to Christopher Mork for a criticism which led me to revise the Form and add the Etymology. The M.C. Escher art print is available from AllPosters.

Analysis of the Example:

 

This argument begs the question because it assumes that abortion involves one human being fatally harming another. However, those who argue that abortion is a private matter reject this very premiss. In contrast, they believe that only one human being is involved in abortion—the woman—and it is, therefore, her private decision.

[RendezVous]

Originally posted by RendezVous:

How do we know that a book "claimed" to be from God is really the Book of God? Surely the answer is tricky but the world agrees one thing:

 

The book you claim is "HOLY" , a Message emanating from an Omniscient Being MUST be consistent with itself. It ought to be free from all discrepancies and contradictions.

 

This is exactly what the

LAST TESTAMENT

, the Book of God,

The Holy Quraan

says in Chapter 4 Verse 82:

 

 

It says in short, had the Quraan been from "other" sources, they would find in it, lots of mistakes(mind you, some non-muslims, and christian propagandists have done their best to show some mis-translation, but were not fruitful)

 

Now since the Quraan has manifested itself as "Pure"..can we also test the other books of "other" religions and put them on "defensive" position?

 

 

I leave all nomads, especially our sisters to contribute as much as they can.......

Ignore "spam" post and go on please.....I say

[Socod_badne]

Exclusive Premisses

Alias: Two Negative Premisses

 

Type: Syllogistic Fallacy

 

Form: Any form of categorical syllogism with two negative premisses.

Example Counter-Example

No moslems are christians.

No jews are moslems.

Therefore, no jews are christians.

 

No reptiles are mammals.

No dogs are reptiles.

Therefore, no dogs are mammals.

Venn diagram

Venn Diagram:

 

This diagram represents both the Example and Counter-Example, which it shows to be invalid, since the area with the question mark is not shown to be empty.

Syllogistic Rule Violated:

 

At least one premiss of a valid categorical syllogism is affirmative.

Source:

 

Robert Audi (General Editor), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, 1995, p. 272.

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[RendezVous]

Originally posted by Socod_badne:

Exclusive Premisses

Alias: Two Negative Premisses

 

Type: Syllogistic Fallacy

 

Form: Any form of categorical syllogism with two negative premisses.

Example Counter-Example

No moslems are christians.

No jews are moslems.

Therefore, no jews are christians.

 

No reptiles are mammals.

No dogs are reptiles.

Therefore, no dogs are mammals.

Venn diagram

Venn Diagram:

 

This diagram represents both the Example and Counter-Example, which it shows to be invalid, since the area with the question mark is not shown to be empty.

Syllogistic Rule Violated:

 

At least one premiss of a valid categorical syllogism is affirmative.

Source:

 

Robert Audi (General Editor), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, 1995, p. 272.

Please and please, the thread is not yours alone but for all nomads, keep it without your "spam"..