Could this signal the End of Yeey's Reign ?

[Sir-Qalbi-Adeyg]

It seems to me, the opposition towards this TFG government is mostly about 'yeey' than about anything else.

 

Ogaada somali unity is dead, as soon as this government dissolves expect another round of endless violence in the south with no inch forward in progress.

 

Let's be realistic, Abdullahi Yusuf is the only reason puntlanders support this weak transitional government. As soon as he's gone, puntland will do it's best to counteract the next government like we did with the TNG.

 

Simply put: puntland will not support any entity that does not represent the interests of puntlanders.

[dhulQarnayn]

^^^

Saaxiib, this thread is a clear sign of bigotry towards El Presidente Cabdullahi Yuusuf. Bigotries based on senseless and ancient tribal animosities against the PROUD sons of Puntland.

 

They've also been brainwashed by the Shabab deviants in some sort of pathological cult-like orgy. It is so sad, that such useless cimaamad wearing morons can fool so many people with their munaafiqnimo.

 

Unfortunately, this opposition to AY is all they got going for themselves, so let them waste their precious time with this sort of girlie hogwash on SOL.

 

dhulQarnayn :cool:

Republic Of California

[Juje]

Originally posted by Supremacist:

Ogaada somali unity is dead, as soon as this government dissolves expect another round of endless violence in the south with no inch forward in progress.

Bollocks...!

Tell me where there is no violence in the south perpetuated by C/llahi and and his allies, Ethiopians, and I will support your innuendo notion. If your idea of unity is based with C/llahi at the helm and the shelling of all that is in the South then you can shaf the unity where it best suits you.

 

dhulqareyn

They've also been brainwashed by the Shabab deviants in some sort of pathological cult-like orgy. It is so sad, that such useless cimaamad wearing morons can fool so many people with their munaafiqnimo.

There is a famous saying that goes like this ' H turub barey', sxb the turf of conflict has changed - the soldiers with the cimaamad are doing what they are best at making sure you dont sleep good in the bunker - but the process to change and terminate your falsely conceived hegemony is being conducted within the corridors that brought you to power.

TFG does not need Puntland it is the other way round - now it is up to your 'great sons of P/land' to decide whether they will follow a fallen tyrannical leader or be part of a process of change.

[NGONGE]

I wonder where does that leave the Djibouti process!

 

DQ,

Obliqueness and innuendo is the order of the day. Don't let your side down by foolish directness and vulgar openness, saaxib. I thought reer puntland were somewhat civilised.

[Juje]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

I wonder where does that leave the Djibouti process!

This is the second phase of it.

[NGONGE]

^^ Let us hope so. Any progress is better than the current stalemate.

[Juje]

Latest information regarding this issue

Projected agenda for the Nairobi Convention:

 

1) To extend the mandate period of the TFG Parliament.

2) To expand and include new members into the the TFG Parliament ( notably the opposition members in the Djibouti Reconciliation Process).

3) To dissolve the Presidency and the TFG Government .

4) To constitute through Parliamentarian elections new TFG President and subsequently new TFG Executive Government.

 

In that chronological order.

[nuune]

^^ And there is no mention of Ethiopian withrawal in that chronological order!

 

 

The whole so called meeting in Nairobi is about re-inforcing the Ethiopian presence in Somalia, and a way to get IGAD to finance the Ethiopian soldiers.

 

And, as you may know, Ethiopia is the BIG player in IGAD countries.

 

 

It won't make any difference if all the stoogies go to Nairobi, since their brethren are butchering Somalis in Muqdisho.

 

 

Referring to "Jinni ninkii keenaa baxsha", I think that could be trasnlated now to a new one "Jinniyadu markey is dul dul fuulaan, ibleez baa loogu yeeraa si uu u kala hago".

 

Marka uma arko in Kenya oo kaliya ama Igad oo kaliya iney fuquburaalaha Soomaaliya ku habsadey iney ka bixin karto.

 

 

Ibleezka weyn ee Mareekanka aan naf ka sugno, maadaama uu asaga ku amar taakleeyo dunida, dhisi karo dowlad, baabi'in karo qaran.

[Juje]

Originally posted by nuune:

^^ And there is no mention of Ethiopian withrawal in that chronological order!

 

 

The whole so called meeting in Nairobi is about re-inforcing the Ethiopian presence in Somalia, and a way to get IGAD to finance the Ethiopian soldiers.

 

And, as you may know, Ethiopia is the BIG player in IGAD countries.

 

 

It won't make any difference if all the stoogies go to Nairobi, since their brethren are butchering Somalis in Muqdisho.

 

 

Referring to "Jinni ninkii keenaa baxsha", I think that could be trasnlated now to a new one "Jinniyadu markey is dul dul fuulaan, ibleez baa loogu yeeraa si uu u kala hago".

 

Marka uma arko in Kenya oo kaliya ama Igad oo kaliya iney fuquburaalaha Soomaaliya ku habsadey iney ka bixin karto.

 

 

Ibleezka weyn ee

Mareekanka aan naf ka sugno, maadaama uu asaga ku amar taakleeyo dunida, dhisi karo dowlad, baabi'in karo qaran.

Sxb your frustration is well documented and legitimate - but what came first the TFG creation Nairobi or the invasion of Ethiopia into Somalia?

Thus one step at the time. The promise in the horizon is a change in the system that brought about the apathy and misery.

[dhulQarnayn]

Juje,

 

Marka hore Juje jaqaldheerow, riyadii uu hadda ka hor Cabdiqaasin iyo Aweys ay ku hongoobeen ayaad weli wadaa.

 

TFG da Cabdullaahi wax dhaama horta ma soo marin intii xukunka qabatay oo uu ugu horeeyay Cali Mahdi, uguna danbeeyay Cabdiqaasin. Waxay qabtaan daaye xafadihii xamar ayey xukun koodii gaarsiin waayeen; ayaga oo sheeganaya magaca H.

 

Marka soo ma fiicna in runta la abaaro oo intuu cabdullaahi idiin qabtay ku xamdiya oo taageera siduu xamar ururada bililiqada ku dhisan in uu idinka badbaadiyo.

 

Cabdullaahi wuxuu markii horaba ka yimid Puntland oo nabad ah, hadii aad caqli aan ka ahayn qax iyo qarax aad keentaan waan idin ogahayoo ururka bililiqada waxaan boob ahayn ma keentaanee waa uu idinka tagi doonaa, haddii kale ilaa uu qaranka burburay u cagaha u taago meel uu u socdaa ma jiro. Puntlandna taageeri meyso Qaran diidyada qarankii bililiqeestay oo doonaya weligood in ay boob iyo bililiqo ku noolaadaan, taasina cid idinka yeeleyso ma jiraan walaa international comumunity-ga iyo IGAD iyo dhamaan dunida in teeda kale waxaan ka ahayn ururada argagixisada Alshabaab iyo Alqaacida oo Naas nuujisa ururada bililiqada.

 

Haddii xitaa Cabdullaahi tago waxaa imaan doona mid ka daran oo ka soo ifbaxaya Puntlaand(oo ah Qaran udirirada Soomaaliyeed) la aan toodna soomaali ma midoobi karto qarana ma yeelan karaan inta ay booska ka maqaan yihiin, waayo waa aas aasayaashii SYL. Waa madaxdii soomaaliyeed dimuqaraadiyada ku soo dabaalay dalka, waa hooyadii Jabhadaha la dagaalamay Siyad, waana hogaamiyayaasha TFG da-- waxaan qaran ahayn kuma qanac sanaan doonaan.

 

Waxaad tiri "H turub baray", waa runoo H turubka uu bartay waa bililiqo iyo boob taasina u socon meyso oo turubkii qaldanaa oo ay barteen dib baa loogu celinayaa... Cashirro aad weligeen hilmaaminah Halyeey Cabdullaahi ayaa idiin dhigi doona, waaba idiin dhigay in idinku filan oo laga cibra qaatee, Laakiin caqli bililiqo lagu goobayaa ma hanuunee, damiinah wa in far waaween wax loogu qoraa, boorarkii aad cashirada aad ka qaadan lahaydeennah NAIROBI ga aad leedahay shir baa kadhacaya ayaa la idinku barayaa. Insha Allah, cimaamadahana meeshaas ayaad ku siibi doontaan hadaad tihiin ururka bililiqa!

 

dhulQarnayn :cool:

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[Juje]

Originally posted by dhulQarnayn:

Marka hore

Juje jaqaldheerow

nice one

 

Bililiqo tan ayan ka irii:

 

Halyeey C/llahi mindha adu halyeey ku yahay anaga wa masiibo Illah nagu so saladey. And the bililiqo tag fortunately is with you guys now as even Amin Amir is my witness:

 

 

 

So to rebuke your falsely created facts; bililiqo can now be attributed those wearing a national army dress and take orders from the hierarchy of TFG and do nothing but loot at this time and age of 2008.

Yes you are right that from Ali Mahdi to Abdiqassim they have failed to establish a governance in anywhere or any place. But isn't that the same with ina Yeey. He is worse of by sanctioning the invassion of the country by historical enemy who are now actually at the forefront of advocating for his replacement. If you ever convinced yourself that C/llahi governs a village let alone a state then you should visit him in his bunker. At least Ali Mahdi and C/kassim had the courtesy of speaking to public out in the open - while ina Yeey doesnt have that liberty scared of hoobiye habow ah ama xabad wifeysa .

And for the record, regardless of how anyone sees it half of the country was in peace with itself and under governance of authority of ICU for a period of six months June - Dec 2006 under who if I may ask you?

[dhulQarnayn]

Juje,

 

Saaxiib, kuwaan tuutaha qabo oo wax bililiqaysanayoh oo aad soo masawirtay waan kuwaan damacnay inaan dhaqan celin ku sameeno, hase ahaatay weli rabo bililiqadoodi inay ku jiraan waana shakhsiyaad kamid ah H-ta. Kuwaan santuukhyada watana waa isla shababkii qaranka bililiqaystay marna bakaaraha u xanbarayo santuukhyada dahabkii laga biliqaystay umadda somaaliyeed marna bakaaraha kasoo xanbaaraya banbooyinki ummada soomaliyeed lagu xasuuqayey.

 

Ali Mahdi iyo Abdiqasin waa adiga leh umadd bey u khudbeen jireenee, ruunxaan hal dagmo oo xamar ah aan xukinkiisa ku jirin, ma afarta laheebta ah oo guriga ugu xiran oo aashuunka ku adimaysay ayaad ka dhigaysaa xamar oo dhan iney u khudbeen jireen? Tan labaadse, nin wax yaqaana matihidee, markii xamar lajoogay, wadanka wuxuu lahaa meel madaxdu deganeed oo ay ka maamuli jireen umadda oo la yiraahdo madaxtooyada, marka ma ii sheegi kartaa Cali Mahdi iyo Cabdiqasin malin kaliya ha ahaatee ey madaxtooyada uga khudbeeyeen dalka? Taasna waxay ku tusaysaa tabar iyo awood ay ku hantaan ayey waayeen, kuna khasabatay iney xaafadaha habraha uga khudbeeyaan.

 

Cabdullahi se, habkii lagu yaqaaney nin madax weene ah, ayuu markii horeba uu xamar yimid buu madaxtooyada ka dagay...taasna waxaa iiga marag ah, mar uu cabdiqaasin ka hadleyey arimaha soomaliya inuu yiri anigoo oo u dhashay H, waan haweensan waayey inaan madaxtooyada fadhiisto maantana Cabdullahi oo aan H ahayn ayaa fadhiya--saas buu kudhahay dad H-ah oo u ku beer laxawsanayey. Taasna waxay ku tuseysaa karti la'aanta ey leeyihiin kuwa aad tiri turub bey barteen.

 

Soomaalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa,"Gaalka dil, gartiisana sii". Laakin nasiib daro, dad ey bililiqadu ay masqax martay; maan iyo caqli ey wax ku gartaan oo khaladka iyo saxa ey ku kala fahmaan aana laheen, yaaleh turub baan baraney.

 

Adiguna lamid baad tahay, marka sheekadaada raqiiskah cid kaa gadaneyso majiree, orod oo meelaha ey kasoocon karta u dirr.

 

Cimaamadahana culimada ha ceebeesaninee, meel u dhiga!

 

dhulQarnayn :cool:

Republic Of California

[Sir-Qalbi-Adeyg]

Originally posted by Juje:

quote:Originally posted by Supremacist:

[qb] Ogaada somali unity is dead, as soon as this government dissolves expect another round of endless violence in the south with no inch forward in progress.

Bollocks...!

Tell me where there is no violence in the south perpetuated by C/llahi and and his allies, Ethiopians, and I will support your innuendo notion. If your idea of unity is based with C/llahi at the helm and the shelling of all that is in the South then you can shaf the unity where it best suits you.

What about kismaayo? and many other clashes that had nothing to do with ethiopians or the TFG in the south for the past 17 years, with no actual resolutions every reached? How about this chief:

 

"NAIROBI, 20 February 2008 (IRIN) - Hundreds of nomadic families have fled the Middle Shabelle and Hiiraan regions of south-central Somalia after clashes between two communities claimed dozens of lives, sources said.

 

The latest clashes, which began on 18 February between the Hawaadle and Abgal sub-clans of the main ****** clan, were concentrated around the small towns of Eil Qoryaale, and Eil Baraf, 260km north of the capital Mogadishu, and the surrounding villages."http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2008/02/mil-080220-irin04.htm

 

Who was to blame for that? Perhaps some puntland boogyman was behind it? :confused:

[Juje]

Originally posted by Supremacist:

What about kismaayo? and many other clashes that had nothing to do with ethiopians or the TFG in the south for the past 17 years, with no actual resolutions every reached? How about this chief:

Strange of you to choose one major city that can be proved or taken as an example where TFG and its guardians have nothing to do with and is yet the stark opposite of the misery and apathy of places under the domionship of TFG.

Kismayo is peaceful and it is a Somali solution for Somali people. Yes it has its bad sides but it is only the begining and will eventually stabilise as it has done so far.

Anything else chief?

[dhulQarnayn]

Juje,

 

Saaxiib propagaandada raqiiska ah oo uu Yuusuf Garaad kasii daayey BBC-da isagoo ku bakhti afuufaya munaafiqiinta Al-Shabab, waa war aan sal iyo raad laheen oo uu ku hadaaqay,"TFG-ga oo dhan baa Nairobi looga yeeray"...taasna markii aan u dhabagalay waxaan ogaaday inay waxaas waxba eysan kajirin oo BEEN la dhadhoobay ahayd.

 

Marka ma banbooyinkii qaraxa ahaa ayaa meel la dhigo intii la waayey, arinku iskugu soo biyo shubatey in dacaayad raqiis ah la fidiyoh. Waana filayey ururka bililiqada iyo munaafiqnimada ee Al-Shabab inuu waxooda af ku e kaan doono.

 

Kismaanyana, awalba waan ogaa iney munaafiqiin ku dhex dhuuntay dadkii u dhashay magaalada ee lawa reegeen. Laakin hada, Mudane Cabdullahi Yuusuf ayaa ciidamo dagdag ah u diri doono wakhti aan fogeen.

 

Meel kasta oo manaafiqiintu ey ku dhuumaaleesanayaan waa laga soo saarayaa. Qaranimadunah mar dhow insha allah bey kaamil noqondoontaa. Qaraxa, qiiqa iyo quuqdaba qabri goodaa loo qodi doonaa. Wi bilahi towfiiq!

 

 

dhulQarnayn :cool:

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