Gabbal Posted September 7, 2008 After having named an administration that sees a Somalilander (clan-wise) as the head of the place and 60% of the positions granted to majority who are reer Gedo, the Islamists are now being attacked by the very men who less then hours ago were the self-appointed spokespeople for the Islamist movement in Jubba/Kismaayo areas. Sheikh Shukri Abu-Zeynab of Afmadoow, the man who rounded up the gurmad militias on the third day and the right hand man of Sheikh Xassan Turki, decries the administration as "unfair". Now the question is, if the Sheikh is a real Sheikh and not a member of the clanists who donned cimaamado for political expediency, why is the good Shiekh dealing on clan lines? Also, why should the Shiekh protest when even in the 2006 administration reer Gedo received what they now got and more based on the face they are the...majority! Sheekh Ibraahim Shugri(Abu Zeynab) "Waa lagu dagdagay maamulka Kismaayo loo sameeyey" KN:Afhayeenkii hore ee golaha Maxaakiimta haddana ah madaxa siyaasadda ee maxaakiimta Jubooyinka ayaa maanta markii ugu horeysey ka hadley maamulka Kismaayo loo sameeyey isagoo ku tilmaamey in lagu fududaaday oo aan aad looga fiirsan. Ibraahim Shugri Abuzeynab oo maanta la hadley warbaahinta Xamar isagoo jooga magaalada Afmadoow ayaa sheegey inuusan aqoonsaneyn maamulka Kismaayo laga sameeyey isla markaana uusan aheyn mid cadaalad ah iyo mid lagala tashadey dadka deegaanka. Marwax laga weydiiyey in Sheekhu kamid yahay garabka Jabuuti ee Isbaheysiga ayuu sheegey inuusan isagu shuqul ku laheyn garabka Jabuuti isla markaasna aan laga talo galin heshiiskii Jabuuti. Wararka ka imaanaya Kismaayo ayaa sheegaya in dhawr xubnood oo loo magacaabey xilal iney ka biyadiideen iney qaataan boosaskii loo magacaabey sida Arimaha Bulshada, Cadaalada, Dacwada iyo Tacliinta. Hadalkan kasoo yeedhey Masuulkan sare ayaa shaki galin kara maamulka magaalada Kimaayo loo sameeyey iyo qaabka loo sameeyey, iyadoo maalmaha soo aadan ay noqonayaan kuwa muhiim ah. KismaayoNews Source: "Kismaayo"news, the self-declared spokesman for the Islamist movement in Kismaayo...until a day ago that is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted September 7, 2008 Loool, Horn I never believed any og these guys who control/controlled the city. They were all clanist one way or other. The only guys who are qabiilless in this equation now is Al-Shabaabs and this northerner admin leader must be Alshabab rep. The rest are bullsh1t qabilst sporting long beard and with Sacuudi cimaamado (tan gaduudan). Horn Ramadan Mubarak, brother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted September 7, 2008 Allamagan we cannot say all brother, but the reality is hypocrisy unfolds itself and some of them are turning out to be hypocrites. Why is a Shiekh dealing on clan lines? Especially a Shiekh from a clan/group who are known to have had, and apparently have, members misuse the Islamist agenda in Somalia for clannish objectives! No other Sheikh from any other of the multitude of peoples who live in the region and/or city have spoken out about the administration named by the Islamists themselves and the fact that this Shiekh does representing this very group says a lot! It is time to accept the reality. Majority rule, minority rights...atleast in Kismaayo district itself. Both in 2006 and now, the Islamists have named an administration they believe is fair and representative of Kismaayo. Why can't their avowed supporters accept their decision? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cige Posted September 7, 2008 60% of the positions granted to majority who are reer Gedo, Is this is why you're very happy :cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted September 7, 2008 Originally posted by Cige: quote: 60% of the positions granted to majority who are reer Gedo, Is this is why you're very happy :cool: I am always happy when justice is served. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted September 7, 2008 The same Shiekh saying "Maxkamadaha" is not party to this administration and that it is an "Al-Shabaab" administration while the new information head of the administration counters by saying positions were allocated based on "xaq", justice, and that clannism will not stop the administration! Maxkamadaha Islaamiga ah oo ka soo horjeestay maamul shalay looga dhawaaqay magaalada Kismaayo ee gobolka J/hoose Madaxa Siyaasadda iyo arimaha bulshada ee midowga maxaakiimta Islaamka Soomaaliyeed Sheekh Ibraahim Shugri oo ku sugan degmada Afmadow ee gobolka J/hoose ayaa ka soo horjeestay maamul shalay la shaaciyey in magaalada Kismaayo ay uga dhawaaqeen xoogag isbaheystay oo dhowaan xoogagga ku qaabsaday ee meesha ka saaray maamul beeleed ka jiray halkaasi in muddo ah, isagoo ku tilmaamay maamulkaasi mid aan waxna ka jirin oo aan loo dhameyn. Sheekh Ibraahim shugri ayaa intaa ku daray in maamulkaasi ay dhismihiisa ka dambeeyeen koox gaar ah oo keligood go’aano iska gaaray, kuwaasoo uu sheegay ineysan wax wada tashi ah kala sameynin kana qeyb gelinin dadkii lahaa maamulka ee deegaanka waxgaradkiisa iyo odayaashii hormuudka u ahaa, wuxuuna xusay in loo baahan yahay in maamulkaasi dib looga laabto si loo saxo khaladaadka uu sheegay iney ka muuqdaan. “Maamul sidiisaba shaqsiyaad ma laha ee bulshada ayaa iska leh, waxaana muuqata in maamulkan hadal looga dhawaaqay magaalada Kismaayo uu yahay mid lagu fududaaday oo ay keligood sameeyeen Al Shabaab iyo xubno ka tirsanaan jiray maxkamadaha Islaamka oo hase ahaatee sheegay iney ka baxeen, mana jiraan wax talo gelin ah oo aan ku leenahay maamulkaasi haddii aan nahay maxaakiimta Islaamka iyo dadkii halkaasi ku dhaqnaa” ayuu yiri Sheekh Ibraahim Shugri. Madaxa warfaafinta ee maamulka cusub ee shalay looga dhawaaqay magaalada Kismaayo ee gobolka J/hoose ayaa sheegay in maamulkaasi uu yahay mid Islaami ah oo aan lagu saleynbin beel, ayna bulshada gobolka u dhan yihiin lagalana tashaday cuqaasha iyo odayaasha beelaha halkaasi ku dhaqan, lamana oga illaa hadda saameynta khilaafkan la xiriira dhinaca maamulka uu ku yeelan doono xoogaga Al shabaab iyo maxaakiimta Islaamka oo iyagu si wadajir ah magaalada uga saaray maleeshiyadii ka talineysay dhowaan. Xafiiska war qabadka Dayniile Muqdisho Somalia dayniilecom@hotmail.com deyniilenews@yahoo.com Source Another reason why I have long responded to the question "Horn, you opposed Maxkamadaha but support the resistance, how can that be?: The ICU was nothing but a clan opportunist organization filled to the core with opportunists and yesterday's marauding militia supported by the same enterprise who kept the Mogadishu warlords alive but hiding behind a thin veneer displaying a few religious good men around a table. The sorting of the genuine from the opportunists occured after the Ethiopian invasion, when the clan opportunists could not endure the heat an so ran while those of the genuine shiekhs such as Sheikh Turki, Cayroow, and Abu Mansuur continue fighting. Source and I did not support the ICU during the second half because informed people knew and were extremely weary of the influence on the ICU by the people who helped finance them in the past. The ICU even at times seemed to be used as a vehicle by those people. It was only after the Ethiopian invasion, were the true religious elements able to completely break free and this is what I label the Resistance. Not the ICU pre-Ethiopian invasion but the Resistance of Roobow. My position and opinion on this is well known in this section. Source The legacy of the hypocrisy of the Maxkamadaha clashes with the justice of Al-Shabaab! A disappointment I daresay for those who donned cimaamado for clan objectives! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted September 7, 2008 ^First you asked us this: Why is a Shiekh dealing on clan lines? And then you came back and told us this (on the same exact post): Majority rule, minority rights...atleast in Kismaayo district itself. SO let me ask you this Mr. Horn, afkaaga iyo dhagahaagu ma is maqlaan? And why are you ( yourself) playing the clan card? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted September 7, 2008 ^^he's always playing the clan card! p.s where does it say the Sheikh opposes for clan reasons? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MVP Posted September 7, 2008 sheek turki named this administration and he happen to the clan u refering to clanist tribe. reer gedo was give two position for political reasons not they majority if this was based who is majority somalilander would not be a chairman. both position that were given reer gedo are not executive position, therefore it does not matter who get it. all reer gedo will report to turki and soon named governor. turki liked how reer gedo refused huraale to station his ******** in baardheer and loyalty that they showed to his group by with other turki army kicking ********s out of kismaayo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted September 8, 2008 lool. Horn adeer, its ammusing to see even in Ramadan you seem to be making up stories. A few weeks back you was gonna use Gas from Gedo and you was mad as hell. Hiiraale militia were killed in their hundrends, Haji Taano was in jail and the Gas as you told us was coming. Now that there is no Gas you claim all is well and justice is served, indeed I agree with you the JVA militia were justly defeated and the city has a new admin, headed and made up individuals who are not from the main clans, you have a man from Toghdeer and a deputiy from Gedo. Thus its great news. Gone is claims of Hiiraale clan militia, Taano, Xasan Dheere and the other clowns. Indeed, If this was about the majority clans, then a man from Toghdeer would not head it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted September 8, 2008 Duke! Where are you tribal "locals" who chased out the "mighty" Hiiraale! Like I said in another topic, this administration means two things...either your tribal "locals" are figments of yours and Emporer's imaginations (as I have been saying so) or that you are a closet Al Shabaab supporter! Surely it is not the latter, so which is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted September 8, 2008 ^War raggan aad la hadlaysid jiq ayeey kutahay ee iska dhaah ninyo, whatever the situation, they are out of the equation now. Where is Empreror? mar hore ayaad arki lahayd him with his usual antics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted September 8, 2008 ^I am here brother, maxaad iigu yeeraysaa oo faa'iido ah, Ramadaan Kariim... Horn, reer Gedo iyo Puntland clans wax laga doodo ma ahan, waa Bil barakaysan akhii hadaadan is hayn karin xataa maalmo ayaa inoo harayee aan iska sugno, mideeda kale awalba anagu qabiilo maba anaan sheegin adiga unbaa meesha qabiilo kadhigaaya, the locals ayaa JVA thugs iyo Barre Hiiraale iska cayriyay, maamulkana waxaa sameeyay the local people-kii Barre dhagaha ulaabay waana Islaami, mana kudhisna 'majority iyo minority' wax layirahdo ee iska saar waxaa kaa buuxa... Dhagayso Hassan Turki's interveiw with the BBC Somali section today. Allamagan, maxaad iigu yeertayna, ma inaan bishaanna halkeeni kasii miis-miisno sidaa kudanbowno... Brother intaa aan iska yara gaabsano danbiyadeeni hore inuu ilaahay inoo dhaafo, waana kusalaamayaa. Ramadaan Mubaarak to you all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nephissa Posted September 8, 2008 Originally posted by Emperor: waa Bil barakaysan akhii hadaadan is hayn karin xataa maalmo ayaa inoo harayee aan iska sugno, Allamagan, maxaad iigu yeertayna, ma inaan bishaanna halkeeni kasii miis-miisno sidaa kudanbowno... Ramadaan Mubaarak to you all. Brother, Bil-caabud-nimada waa lagu naar tagaa, saa ula soco. Markasta Camal Saalix la imoow, Ramadan or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted September 8, 2008 ^Ya Allaah If I am trying to better myself from now and onwards ma waxaad itiri, bil-caabud, thanks my sister... Hadalkaa aad tiri Somalidu way iska dhahaan, hadal tiro iyo kuxumayn owgeed, laakiin Culimada Muslinka aad bay ugu guubaabiyaan qofka Muslinka ah inuu isbadelo Bisha Ramadaan, xataa hadii uusan samayn jirin amaba samayn doonin kadib waa inuu iska doondoonaa ayay Culumadi yiraahdaan waayo waxaa suurtagal ah inuu ilahay halkaa hanuunka kasiisiiyo oo lacalallaaha uu qabatimoba, mideeda kale Bishaan Muhimad iyo Raxmad ayay leedahay waana qofka inuu kafogaada wax kasta oo danbi u keeni kara, bal in yara hadaad ila fahamtid Xadiiskaan, waad in Bishaan qofku inuu danbi iska ilaaliyo kasii xad-dheertahay kuwa kale... Nabigu SAW, wuxuu yiri: من أدرك شهر رمضان فلم يغفر له ، فدخل النار ، فأبعده الله ، قل آمين ، فقلت آمين " [ أخرجه البخاري في الأدب المفرد وابن حبان والترمذي والطبراني بإسناد حسن ] Oo ah "Ninki Bisha Ramadaan soo gaara, oo aan loo danbi dhaafin sidaana naarta kugala, ilaahay hakufogeeyo, Aamiin dhahaya ayuu kuyiri Saxaabada, markasay dhahaan Aaamin", inaa lilaaha, Nabigaa habaaray xataa. Xadiisyadu way badanyihiin marabo inaan umooqdo qof wacdiyaaya ee point yara ayaan rabay inaan kutuso si aad jigraarka iga daysid, bal inaan Nabiga SAW habaarkiisa kabaxsano xataa waa lagama maarmaan. Bishana waa midii dab badan qoortooda laga xoraynaayay naarta loona dhaafaayay banbiyadii ay horay usoo galeen, ilaahay hanaga midyeelo kuwaas Insha'alah, Ramadaan Mubaarak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
