Jacaylbaro Posted May 16, 2009 A mass grave containing the remains of at least nine bodies thought to have been killed during Siad Bare’s rule were found on Thursday after heavy torrential rains in the out skirts of Hargeisa, in the Boqol Jireh district. The people buried here were part of hundreds of thousands of people that have been killed in Somaliland after Somalia’s dictator Siad Bare’s military operations. In 1988, Somalia’s military junta hired Rhodesian (Zimbabwe) mercenaries that were acquired by United Arab Emirates to bombard Somaliland’s three major towns - Hargeisa, Burao and Berbera, an estimated 50, 000 were killed and more than 800, 000 people were forced to leave their homes. Many of the refugees fled to neighbouring Ethiopia. Those who survived the bombings or the deliberate starvation by denying them food were often rounded up, tied together using barbed wires and gunned down from a point-blank range. If that method did not work, they would often tie them together in barbed wires and run bulldozers over them and were left to rot in the streets where they bulldozed. Officials from Somaliland’s department of defense were present who sealed the area. Several mass graves as well as corpses containing the remains of civilians have been found across Somaliland since the fall of Somalia’s dictator regime in 1991. Two decades on, the 1988 Somaliland genocide will haunt the world for generations. The only justice Somaliland seeks is to be part of the international community as sovereign nation and not be forced into a union with a country that only knows how to kill it’s own civilians. Somaliland might be living in peace but Somalia continues to carry out the genocide it’s own for in its own turf today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted May 16, 2009 JB, let it go brother, let it go. all Somalis have suffered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 16, 2009 I don't forget mine ,, I keep my history. Other Somalis should do the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted May 16, 2009 J.B if I may ask, how do they deduce the cause of the death? Post-government collapse, Somaliland has lost thousands to internal civil war from the mid-90's to the recent grain war. How was the cause of death deduced? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 16, 2009 Xabaalo wadareedyadii Malko Durdure ee xaafada Boqol-jire oo ay ku aasan yihiin Dadkii uu Xasuuqay Taliskii Macangaga ahaa ee Siyaad Barre ayaa markii Saddexaad ay soo saareen Daadka Roobabkii ka da’ay labadii maalmood ee u dambeeyay magaalada Hargeysa iyo Nawaaxigeeda. Subaxnimadii maanta ayay dadka xaafadaas degani arkeen lafo iyo Madaxyo Dad ka dib markii uu shalay roob laxaad leh oo ka da’een magaalada Hargeysa iyo nawaaxigeeda, kuwaasoo daadkii xooganaa ay soo saareen lafahan saaka lagu arkay Malko durduro. Sida ay noo sheegeen dadka degan xaafadaasi waxa laga helay halkaas Madaxyo iyo Lafo 9 Qof oo Xadhig keliya oo ka samayn Taar Bir ah isugu xidhan, kuwaasoo uu taarku wali sii aasan yahay, isla-markaana ay ka sii muuqdaan Lafihii kale oo ku sii xidhan. Taliska Guud ee Ciidanka Qaranka Somaliland oo aan wax badan ka fogayn halka lafahaasi laga helay ayaa ciidankii taliska joogay Askar ka mid ahi yimaadeen, kuwaasoo soo guray Sagaal qof lafahoodii iyo madaxyadoodii oo uu daadku soo saaray. Waxa la yaab leh dadka xabaalo-wadareedyada n laga helay oo ah kuwii taliskii axmaqa ahaa ee Siyaad Barre xasuuqay 1988 oo iminka laga joogay muddo 20 sanadood ah. dharkii ay xidhnaayeen maalintaasi waa la la’yahay qaarkood, halka aanay qaarna iska bedelin oo Dhigii ka muuqdo. Xadhigan dadku ku xidhnaayeen ayaan ku ekayn intaas Sagaalka Guntimood ee Maydadka daadku soo aaaray, balse waxay intiisa kale ku qarsoon tahay ciid moosan oo tuulan oo ay ku xabaalan yihiin dad ka badan Sagaalkan qof ee daadku madaxyadooda soo saaray, waxaana mooska qarkiisa ka muuqda lafihii qofkii Tobnaad ee xadhigani ku xidhnaa. Ninka beertan leh dadku ku xabaalan yihiin, ee horena looga helay beertiisa xabaalo wadareedyadii hore oo aanu kula kulanay goobta ayaanu wax ka waydiinay arrintan iyo siday ku soo baxeen Lafaha Maydadka la xasuuqay, waxaana uu jawaabtiisa ku bilaabay; -“Walaahi walaal waa arrin naxdin leh, waxa lafahan soo saaray roobkii shalay da’ay, oo daad badani ka soo rogmaday, subaxnimadii hore ee saaka ayuun baanu aragnay, dabadeedna waxaanu u soo sheegnay ciidankan qaybta degan, kuwaasoo isla markiiba qayb ka mid ah meesha timi, waxaanay iminka isku ururiyeen Sagaal qof madaxyadoodii iyo lafahoodii ka dibna way qaadeen si loo aaso. Mooskan aad aragtaan waxa ku jira dad intan ka badan oo xadhigu isugu wada xidhnaa iminka waad arkaysaa in lafihii qofkii tobnaad ee xadhigan ku xidhnaa uu ka muuqda gunta hoose ee mooska. Inta aanay xadhigan isugu wada xidhin ciidamadii siyaad barre ayay laayeen, ka dibna intay cagaf bay u soo direen ayay laagtan biyo mareenka ah ee beerta dhinac marta ku aaseen halkaasi waa meeshii saddexaad waxaana laga yaabaa inay meelo kale oo badanina jiraan.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted May 16, 2009 Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: That looks like a collarbone of a baby. :mad: Ilaahay ha u naxariisto dhamaan inta gacanta ka xaq daran dishay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted May 16, 2009 Gabbal good question, how do they know that this people's death were not caused by the war between Cigaal and Tuur but that of 1988... Your President Riyaale, former spy master, is greatly to blame for this, but according to JB, wixi aan rabnona waan hilmaamaynaa/Cafinay naa wixi aan rabno waan dabagalaynaa.... It simply is another lame attempt to use grievances to promote secession, failted terribly and will never work... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted May 16, 2009 That's why no one would ever be brought on war crimes. The international community knows full well both sides committed the same acts, many pro government men and women who surrendered were executed by the rebels and the rebels who were in the mountains came down to the city and hid among the citizens, using them as human shields is a war crime in itself. That's not what i'm saying, just read up on what the western worlds has documented on the history on Somalia and you'll see. Most people that try and start a government from scratch make sure that no high ranking members of a former regime they claimed oppressed them is put in their new government, but Somali land actual names the head of the feared intelligence agency as it's pres. Either no crimes were committed, or it's head must take full responsibility for everything that went on under his command. Jacaylbaro, How do you explain Riyaale's past with the former regime you claimed oppressed you, and how he's now your elected as president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted May 16, 2009 Bottom line..It doesn't matter who committed these acts anymore. There is a huge resentment & animosity between the people of SL and Somalia..and for this reason SL should go its seperate way. This is the only solution we have on the table. Nothing good will come out of unity because it just doesn't make sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 16, 2009 Originally posted by Gabbal: J.B if I may ask, how do they deduce the cause of the death? Post-government collapse, Somaliland has lost thousands to internal civil war from the mid-90's to the recent grain war. How was the cause of death deduced? Those who died in a civil war are different from those who were killed by any government. There, the cause is different coz their killing was systematic, organized and one by a government. Have a look at the International Law about the issue. As for how the cause is deduced, It is a full lessons of it is own but here you can read the news on how they are killed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamaavi Posted May 16, 2009 Originally posted by somalipride: Jacaylbaro, How do you explain Riyaale's past with the former regime you claimed oppressed you, and how he's now your elected as president? Good question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 16, 2009 Every criminal will be dealt with ,, sooner or later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamaavi Posted May 16, 2009 So does that mean you believe your president is among the creminals of this Somaliland genocide? If not, would you care to elaborate,,,,? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites