In Times of Extremists, Scholars Permit Independence Celebrations

[xiinfaniin]

Hay'adda Culummada Soomaaliyeed oo sheegtay in qaban-karo xaflado lagu xusayo Maalinta Xorriyadda ee 1-da Luuliyo

[Polanyi]

LOL.

[xiinfaniin]

^^This was a response to this announcement from your freinds:

 

Somali Islamists urge boycott of independence anniversary

[Polanyi]

So, in your opinion, anyone who opposes the celebration of independence day, is an extremist, all because the "highly esteemed" Sheikh Bashir Salad said so?

[xiinfaniin]

It's not opposing it, Karl, that is extremist. Punishing people for it, is.

 

Get the distinction, awoowe?

[Polanyi]

^^ "In Times of Extremists, Scholars Permit Independence Celebrations".

 

The title gives the impression that not permitting it is an act of extremism and that Bashir Salad is right for "permiting" Muslims to take part in the nationali festivities. As for your second comment: according to who?

[xiinfaniin]

Maneeno.com

 

your freinds alshabaab are extremists.

[Polanyi]

No need to go off on your usual tangents. The article is talking about hisbul-Islam you nightmare, , btw, though i can see alshabab is giving you nightmares. Secondly, Bashir Salad's opinion is not enough to permit independence day nor is it enough to deem others Muslims as extremists. Thirdly, muslim authorities and groups can stop what they deem to be munkar by force. We expected this from secular sOMALIS, but we certainly did not expect it from men who use religious arguments.

[xiinfaniin]

^^That is your level of understanding, Karl. You are the same man who thought killing other Muslims by the dozens for mere political disagreements is not extremism.

 

One group cannot punish others when that group lacks legitimacy, and when majority of muslim scholars in the land disagree with them.

[Cawaale]

^Karl, i am astonished you don't find killing other Muslims for political argument wrong .

 

I am not taking sides here sxb, but comon, we know who uses the so called religious arguments to get going their Wicked Machine!

[Polanyi]

stick to the discussion, sxb. Let us make this simple:

 

 

1. I believe Bashir's opinion is wrong according to the quran and sunnah. It is also not supported by the most prominent Ulema of this century, most notably the ulema of Saudi Arabia. I am sure there are many others. Adigu, you just seem like you are agreeing with him just to spite another group and you have brought no daleel explaining for why it is permissible. If said it was haram, would you from celebrating it? It seems like a case of samcina wa adacna- sheikh bashir

 

2. Muslim scholars, jamats and groups can forbid the evil and enjoin the good with whatever means they have. They are many examples of this in history and you certainly do not need legitimacy from scholars or the UN backed somali regime.

 

 

3. You still haven't explained why you agree with sheikh bashir's little speech, in which he so kindly permited for Somalis to take part in junly 1 celebrations.eh?

 

 

@cawale, stop cheerleading.

[xiinfaniin]

^^There's nothing to discuss in this thread, other

than Karl's confussion on basic Islamic principles, including the xurmatul of blood of Muslims.

 

Are you up for that discussion, Karl?

[Maaddeey]

lool, who's talking the spilling of blood of muslims?, when ever you are cornered, u get off topic!.

 

Mawliidka Nabiga(S)waa Bidco Xaaraam ah, lakin 1da Luulyo waa la sameyn karaa, Maashaa Allah.

[Gheelle.T]

^Kowda Luulyo maalin diimeed maaha. Loomana dabaal dego hab diimmeed, baryana qof lama weydiisto. what's your gist anyway?

[xiinfaniin]

Originally posted by Maaddeey:

lool, who's talking the spilling of blood of muslims?, when ever you are cornered, u get off topic!.

 

Mawliidka Nabiga(S)waa Bidco Xaaraam ah, lakin 1da Luulyo waa la sameyn karaa, Maashaa Allah.

Yes Maaddeey Script, waa la sameyn karaa. What now