Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted March 22, 2006 Salaan... Since I think Baydhabo.com is least interested to take sides in this particular conflict, it thus reports: Siyaasiyiin isugu jira Wasiirro iyo xildhibaano ka soo jeeda beesha [qabiil] ayaa maanta shir saxaafadeed ku qabtay Baydhabo. Xildhibaan Cawad Axmed Casharo ayaa ku hadlayay magaca Xildhibaannada iyo Wasiirrada ka soo jeeda beesha [qabiil] asagoo horayna Wasiir ugu ahaan jiray dawlad goboleedka Puntland. Xildhibaan Caawad Axmed Cashara oo ay shir saxaafadeedka ku weheliyeen xildhibaanno ay ka mid ahayd Caasha Axmed Cabdalla ayaa wuxuu sheegay in beesha [qabiil] oo degta gobolka Sanaag deegaankeeda lagu soo xadgudbay oo si aan waafaqsanayn dastuurka federaalka loo "faramaroorsanayo" kheyraadka ku jira deegaanka beesha ka dib markii shirkado ajnabi ah qandaraas la xiriira macdan-baaris ay la saxiixdeen dawlad goboleeda Puntland. Xildhibaan Caawad Axmed Cashara ayaa intas raaciyay in khayaraadka dabiiciga ah, gaar ahaan macdanta dhex ceegaagta dhulka ay milkiyadeedu leedahay dawlada federaalka, sidaas daraadeedna maamul goboleeda Puntland uusan xaq u lahayn in shirkad ajnabi ah uu heshiis la galo oo weliba "qashin iyo sun lagu shubo" deegaanadan waa siduu hadalka u dhigaye. Shir saxaafadeedka ayaa yimid ka dib markii ciidamo u dhashay deeganka macdanta laga baarayo iyo ciidamo ka tirsan maamul goboleeda Puntland uu iska hor imaad ku dhex maray deegaano ka tirsan Dhalan iyo Majiyahan oo ku yaalla koonfurta Ceelaayo (Sanaag). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 22, 2006 MMA, the press statement or what the MP's said is not in question. However is is there an armed conflict raging in Sanaag between a specefic clan and the Puntland authorities as reported on Dayniile, onkod and forwarded by Mr Talker on this site? Makhir, as you are the expert in all things, can you kindly forward us some evidance that there is a battle raging between the clan in question and the Puntland authority. We need names and figures of the armed combatants on both sides. Somalipride, Brother it is interesting that some here would like to see conflict in Puntland. Mr Makhir brings no evidance while Mr Talker, Horn and the rest are using Dayniile as their only source... Mr Talker and Horn how accurate is the news you have been pushing the last two days? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codetalker Posted March 22, 2006 ^ Dayniile is a funny website, isn't it? Seriously, there's something fishy going on and you know it. Why would Dhahar and Laasqorey continue to post false information about their regions? Why would the PL interior minister, with Pres Cadde in tow, hold a PRESS CONFERENCE about news reports printed by the likes of Dayniile or Onkod? Why would MP Axmed Cawad Casharo and his colleagues (incl TFG defense minister) hold a press conference in Baydhabo, blaming the battle on Cadde Muuse? All of this drama because of Dayniile and Onkod reports? The truth will always come out. Always. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xarago Posted March 22, 2006 Huuno if your questions are to Mr Duke pictured below ha is daliin the truth and the logics of reality has left him long time ago. General Duke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indy7424 Posted March 22, 2006 Can anyone verify if this news article is correct or just dis/mis information? http://www.laasqoray.net/article.php?articleid=70 Somalia: Armed Clash over Natural Resources Posted to the Web Mar 22, 15:56 Bossaso: At least 9 people have been confirmed to be killed and 12 wounded on Monday over the control of a two strategic villages , 40 km west of Bossaso. The incident was set off after the governor of Puntland sent a militia loyal his clan for the control of the two places, Majihaan and Dhanaan in Sanaag region of Somalia. The clash in which 9 people have been killed so far centers on the control of two places Majiyahan and Dhallan in Sanaag that the autonomous Puntland wants so desperately to secure for an illicit deal it had with Range Resources LTD. The deal is about oil and mining explorations in Sanaag region. Troops from both opposing sides have also begun to build up, and tribal mobilization is reported to have started in several cities. Weapons such as Mortars, Rocket Propelled Grenade and Gun shots have been exchanged. There are verified reports from reliable sources in the region that several wounded men have been brought to Bossaso hospital. “The fighting is still continuing and there are a great fear that it will turn into a full-scale conflict,†said by Abdi Iid. Mayiyahan and Dhanan contain valuable minerals such as copper and diamonds. A regional analyst illustrates, “The gravity of this issue is not news to me. There have been pending negotiations between Sanaag administration and Puntland since last year regarding resource management, share agreements and most importantly a direct negotiation with the company itself, but nothing fruitful came out of it and Adde has been very reluctant to respect the owners. His main suspicion is that there are local politicians and experts who are working with the Soamliland administration on this issue but that is an outright excuse to attack the region through the mobilization of various segments. The only ad hoc administration that Sanaag has allied with and supported ever since is Pun land until warlord Adde made it open his belligerence onto ‘people Sanaag’.†One of the parliamentarians, Awad Ashara, who was interviewed by BBC accused the governor of Puntland administration of creating instability in the region. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xudeedi Posted March 22, 2006 General , Listen to your SBC, an interview. This is a complete interview on the issue and it exposes everything. Mudane Awad Ashare condemns the acts and the secret negotiations between Adde and Range Resources Ltd. They don't have the legal means to conduct business on behalf of a land they do not belong. How in the hell can you do that? Only the Federal government is responsible and entitled to conduct such bussiness. Mudane Ashare promised to issue a motion regarding the issue and they will contact the Australian Embassy as well as other International Organizations. Ps. Why do i have to repeat myself over and over. If you at least bother yourself and reread my earlier posts, then i will take the time to further explain to you my posts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted March 23, 2006 Maakhir, give the General enough time for digestion of the unfolding saga. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xudeedi Posted March 23, 2006 Originally posted by Mansa Munsa: Maakhir, give the General enough time for digestion of the unfolding saga. Is that so? Duke will know much about the Land of Punt as time goes on. Duke, do you know anything about SOMCAN, the company that is licensed by Puntland to do fishing on the long coast starting from Eyl to Bossaso? Contrary to the fact, the Co. is depicted as a Coast Guard. Try to research on the dishonest activities in the region sxb. The adminstration charges extortionate fees on vehicle licenses of about $50 every three month, $800 for imported goods of certain amount, local business taxes and etc, but hardly has the adminstration used the money for public services or maintenance of roads in critical needs of repair. Bossaso port is much busier than Berbera port but Berbera pays the salary of 27000 of government employees. Whereas, in Puntland, we have monthly walkouts and disruptions about payment defaults. If the adminstration can be held accountable of the income it unfairly extracts from the land and people, there won't have been problems. It is these unthinking officials who are quick to making war and disrupting the peace than anyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Action Posted March 23, 2006 There is no war but there is a desire for locals where the minerals are being explored to make sure they are not left out whick is sound and reasonable as long as it is peaceful. However, Maakir iyo qurbajooga are eager for war and are busy beating the drums for war which will not affect them directly. There is a very savy and cunning businessman waiting to cash in your donation and get rich quickly. What is there to fight? For goodness sake, there is a desire by the Puntland government for the first time to work for the welfare of its people. So if there is commercial quantities of minerals, who is going to benefit? First the locals because their will be housing, works, security personnel etc. So why oppose something that will benefit you. The economy is in the best shape ever and there is progress. There is a desire by Cadde Muse to make his government transparent. The only obstacle are the clans who want to keep their own corrup ministers and do not want any change. He can not force change but change will come slowly. Awad Asharo, oo dabadhilif u ahaa inta Puntland dhisneyd C/laahi Yusuf lost credibilty when he stated in his BBC interview that he suspect there are no minierals in Majiyahan but their is conspricy to bury posinous waste there. When you have 2000 Km of unguarded sea to dump anything you desire, why pay and take trouble to bury it inland. The man lost it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indy7424 Posted March 23, 2006 Maakhir, Did you miss the Fed. Gov. letter giving their approval of the Puntland/Consort agreement? And why do you call it "Secret negotiations" and that they do not have the "legal means to conduct business"? I suggest you read the offical letter below. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xudeedi Posted March 23, 2006 Awad Ashara established Puntland and he was appointed by his people as a representive. He is among the main persons who established this ad hoc adminstration you so proud of. And he will be determined to abort any further negotiations that would bring such illicit deals into effect. Any exploration in Sanaag region is subject to locals' approval until we have a working government. Who is Adde other than being a corrupt warlord, hateful clannist. I thought he would learn ethical standards from the years he lived in overseas where he is exposed to how the world is governed. He is not even a full general to begin with , but claims that he was given the title while in overseas just few months before the former regime was overthrown. Indy, You should listen to the interview very carefully. The orator man Awad illustrates all the facts. These companies are smaller companies who had defaulted on their national tax on several times due to some ethical problems. I wonder why would they invest a project whose NPV would be outright negative if not 0. They are wasting money and the little $ 2 Million they offer to give Warlord Adde is better off keeping it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xarago Posted March 23, 2006 Wadh waxba waxba ka daran, just look at the letter from the PM of Dofarey government his P O Box is in Sarit Centre Nairobi and also note his email is premiersom@wanainchi.com and not premiersom@wadani.com. Loool.! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maf Kees Posted March 23, 2006 'Wadh'? Ma Soomaali Cusub baa? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xarago Posted March 23, 2006 Ha huuno waa mid adiga weli ku dhiman badhashadiisa.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qandalawi Posted March 23, 2006 Any outcome from this conflict so far, is the war still going on and who's winning? Update Please? enuf of opinions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites