General Duke Posted July 1, 2008 Do secessionist care about Somali people? This is a direct thread to all the secessionists on SOL. It has come to our attention that you have lately begun to over play the emotional card, you have been appealing to our Somali, religious and even human sentiments. You have become very vocal in the west attending anti government meetings, and pushing the propaganda of the defeated groups. In London, and other diaspora centres you are one with the people who are fighting. On SOL you have taken the names of fallen “Mujahids” and have been very tough on any agreements with “collaborators” and any deal with the “occupiers”. Thus you have directed your fellow Somali’s to continue the fight, the struggle against their government and Ethiopian, AU allies. The questions are my secessionists brothers. 1. if this is genuine, why have we never seen any anti Ethiopian demonstrations in Somaliland for the plight of the Somali’s? 2. Why have the secessionist junta in Hragaysa and their lobbies not condemned what you see as war crimes? 3. Why have you been supportive at best and quite when Hargaysa junta handed Ethiopia Somali rebels? It seems you want us to fight Ethipian, the AU and our own government, while you lobby the Ethiopians to open an embassy in Hargaysa and the AU to get recognition. You are brave indeed because you want kids like Cayrow to die for you killing their own in order to get your dream. Awaiting the answers from North, Ngoonge, Oodweyne, Geediid and of course CayrowJR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LANDER Posted July 2, 2008 Secessionist, which secessionist? are we talking about Puntland here? I didn't know they were on the verge of declaring independence, kinda hard to do anyway with Ethiopian military barracks on your territory right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted July 2, 2008 Duke, we refuse to answer! We wish instead to throw accusations back at you. Sound familiar old chap? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted July 2, 2008 It has come to our attention that you have lately begun to over play the emotional card, you have been appealing to our Somali, religious and even human sentiments. Didn't even know human-trafficking collaborateurs had those "sentiments". :cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hibo Posted July 2, 2008 If we are talking of suffering under the last oppreesive regime, then no one has been left out in whole of mother somalia. the north somali people had been fed by the shabelle and central somalia for avery long time and even now! an the region had sufferd just as the north and the whole of the other somalia, but when it comes to social economic gains then the north is loudest. why so? if there is a region that deserves cession is central somali, which is ready to continue with its status quo, unlike the hypocritic north. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LANDER Posted July 2, 2008 Originally posted by Al Burcaawi: Duke, we refuse to answer! We wish instead to throw accusations back at you. Sound familiar old chap? ^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted July 2, 2008 I don't take Duke seriously but even mad men speak some wisdom occasionally and he is rightly asking why is the pot calling the kettle black? In other words, how can a pro-secession (Ethiopian-lover/friend) person accuse a collaborator (Ethiopian-stooge) of anything? Aren't they both the two sides of the same bloody Birr? Ka jaawabadee af jan jeedha lahaydeene. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Action Posted July 2, 2008 I think damn is too strong word. This is politics don't take it too serious. And don't be dogmatic, you might find yourself singing a different tone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thierry. Posted July 2, 2008 “Thierry walks in after temporarily being declared the new spokesman/legal advisor of Somaliland. Commentators commend the appointment of a southerner into such a role and call it a direct blow to the accuser” point. To G Duke differentiate between the people of Somaliland and the Riyaale government. The likes of Northerner (Al Burcaawi) and Red Sea (Ceyrow jr) do not agree with the current administrations policies towards the south and the evidence is clear in the archives of this forum. In the blissful day of ICU control when the retched warlords (who are back in power) ousted, many of the “secessionist” in SOL not only supported ICU but where open to negotiations on how to bring the greater Somalia back together. Not over night but how incrementally the union can be formed without making past mistakes. Somalilander when given choice the between a corrupt warlord infested TFG as the administrator of the North-western region or Riyaale’s administration, well it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out who they would choose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted July 2, 2008 ^^Thanks for the clarification saxib. Lets hope the some what challenged undertstand it. “Thierry walks in after temporarily being declared the new spokesman/legal advisor of Somaliland. Commentators commend the appointment of a southerner into such a role and call it a direct blow to the accuser” point. Nicely put . Castro In other words, how can a pro-secession (Ethiopian-lover/friend) person accuse a collaborator (Ethiopian-stooge) of anything? Is that even a question saxib. Does pro-secession automatically equal loving Ethiopia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted July 2, 2008 Thiery, awoowe one is either a secessionist or one is not. Period. Secessionists want Somalia that once existed dismembered into what European colonial power subjugated and colonized what fiefdom. Al-Shabaab want to realize one Somalia that is indivisible, under Shariah rule, and led by Islamist. Conflict of interest? You bet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted July 2, 2008 ^^^^ I know your fingers are tired from writing in that other thread. Northerner, yes it is a question saaxib. Collaborators want Ethiopia to reward them with power over all Somalis. Secessionists need recognition from Ethiopia to separate them from other Somalis. Denouncing Ethiopia and its plans for the Horn and simultaneously needing it for secession cannot coexist. Both groups need Ethiopia for slightly different and completely selfish reasons. Neither can speak on behalf of the greater good for Somalis. I'd say this is a clear case of same shit, different rear end. Wouldn't you say? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted July 2, 2008 Castro This deliberate playing to the gallery has lost its novelty. Give it a rest. Rayaale might be an embarrassment but you're over doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted July 2, 2008 ^^Allah! Answer the q waryee Ayyoub! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted July 2, 2008 ^^ I refer all disingenuous gentlemen to the answer given by adviser Thierry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites