Split in the TFG on Khartuum Negotiations?

[Paragon]

Just a day after the warlord-cum president of the TFG, Abdullahi Yussuf, declared to Sharq ul Awsad that he has rejected to participate in the peace talks in Khartoum, Sudan, the Speaker of the Parliament - Sharif Hassan, stepped up the plate by rallying the MPs around his initiative, in order to convince them to join the talks with the Islamic Courts Union. This is contrary to Abdullah's policy towards the negotations with the TFG. Mr Abdullahi has deviced a plan to ignore the courts altogether and thus provoke them to attack his base in Baidoa, so as to invoke his right for self-defence , be that involving Ethiopian backers. This deviced plan hasn't spanned out as expected. So I ask you, could this be (as Duke would probably have us believe) a minor thing or a blow that may precipitate the beginning of the end of the TFG as we know it?

 

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http://www.goobjoog.net/ Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:19:00 13JulGMT

Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka oo shaaca ka qaaday in Baarlamaanku ka qeyb galayo dib u heshiisiinta Khartoum

 

 

Shariif Maxamed (Email: Shariif55@yahoo.com)

 

Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka

 

Baarlamaanka Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa taageeray dib u heshiisiinta iyo wadahadalka ay dowladda Federaalka la yeelato Maxaakimta Islaamiga Soomaaliya, kadib markii maanta uu Baarlamaanku yeeshay doodii labaad ee ku saabsan dib u heshiisiinta.

 

Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka ayaa fadhigii maanta ka sheegay inuusan isagu qabin in Baarlamaanku gacan togaaleysi galay, wuxuuna caddeeyay in Baarlamaanku xaq u leeyahay inuu ka hadlo xaaladda dalka iyo siyaasadda taasina aanay macnaheedu ahayn inuu gacan togaaleysi sameeyay.

 

“Xukuumadda hal heshiis nooma keenin laba sano, dib u heshiisiinta waan wadeynaa, waanan ka qeyb galeynaa dib u heshiisiin kasta†ayuu yiri Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka oo caddeeyay inay guddi u saari doonaan wadahadalka dib u heshiisiinta ayna shuruud la'aan uga qeyb galayaan dib ueheshiisiinta Suudaan.

 

Warka ka soo yeeray guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka ayaa iska caabin u ah khudbadii uu madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf ka jeediyay shalay Baarlamaanka, waxaana soo shaac baxday inay mar kale dowladda Federaalka ku kala qeybsameen dib u heshiisiinta iyo sida loola dhaqmayo maxaakiimta.

 

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Baydhabo (Baidoa.com)-Baarlamaanka federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa maanta kulan ku yeeshay xaruntiisa Baydhabo. Kulankan oo ay soo xaadireen 158 xildhibaan ayaa waxaa shir gudoominayay Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan waxaana looga dooday kulankii loo ballansanaa in maanta-15 July, 2006 uu ka dhaco Khartuum, Suudaan ee dib loo dhigay ka dib markii ay dawlada codsatay in dib loo dhigo, laguna dhamaystiri lahaa heshiiskii ay June 21, 2006 Khartuum, Suudaan ku gaareen Midowga Maxaakiimta Islaamiga ee Muqdisho iyo dawlada Federaalka Soomaaliya.

 

Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan ayaa khudbad uu ka hor jeediyay xildhibaanada waxaa uu ku sheegay in Baarlamaanka uu yahay siyaasi oo uusan ahayn askar uuna xaq u leeyahay siyaasada in uu ka hadlo loona baahanyahay in xukuumada iyo Baarlamaanka ay wada shaqeeyaan oo ay isku fikir noqdaan.

 

Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan ayaa yiri: "Anaga fikirkayaga in la diido oo la yiraahdo idinku meel aydan lahayn baad toogaalaysataan anigu uma arko. Anigu waxaan qaabaa Baarlaamanku xukuumadu way inkirtay sababta oo ah hal heshiis oo laba sano ay noo keentay ma jiro. Hal heshiis oo caalami ah ama hal waraaq ku qoran oo xukuumada hal maalin ka hadla na tiri ma jiro."

 

Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan ayaa ku yiri xildhibaanada: "In dib u heshiisiin la wado oo dalka dib u heshiin lagu soo dabaalo inta diidana gacanta ha taagto, inta dib u heshiisiin in l wado ogonla gacanta ha taagto. Cid dib heshiisiin diidi karta ma jirto. Anagu dib heshiisiin ayaan wadaynaa, guddi ayaan u saaraynaa, waan la hadlaynaa, qof diidi karana ma jiro."

 

Hadalka uu maanta Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan ka hor jeediyay xildibaanada ayaa jawaab u ahaa lidna ku ah hadalkii uu maalintii shalay Madaxwayne Cabdulaahi Yuusuf Axmed ka hor jeediyay kalfadhi aan caadi ahayn oo uu yeeshay Baarlamaanka federaalka Soomaaliya kasoo uu si kulul ugu weeraaray Midowga Maxaakiimta Islaamiga ee Muqdisho uuna ku sheegay in dawladu aysan ka qaybgalayniin kulankii loo ballansanaa in maanta-15 July, 2006 uu ka dhaco Khartuum, Suudaan, uuna kaga codsaday xildhibaanada Baarlamaanka federaalka in ay gartaan waajibaadkooda iyo hawshooda aysanna faraha la soo gelin hawsha waaxda fulinta oo ay ku ekaadaan sharci dejinta.

 

Kulank maanta ee Baarlamaanka federaalka ka dib ayay suxufiyiinta ku sugan magaalada Baydhabo oo ay Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka wax ka weydiiyeen haddii kulanka Khartuum la aadayo wuxuna yiri: "Kulanka waan ka qaybgalaynaa, dib u heshiisiintana waan wadaynaa, Baarlamaanka iyo dowladuba waa dib u heshiisiin. "

 

 

Abshir Maxamed Nuur "Mandela"

Baydhabo

 

mandela@baidoa.com

[Wiilo]

Sheikh sharif sheikh aden waa nin islaam ah isla markaana jecel nabadda iyo soo celinta kala dambaynta dalka, shalayna markii an ay dowladda ay diiday in ay timaado magaalada muqdisho aad ayuu oga xumaaday arinkaas. Runtii S.S.Aden asigaa paarlamaanta hogaamiyo isla markaana maamulkiisa leh, unlike xayawaanka Geedi ee aanan garanayn holsha uu halo (cid u dhiibatay baa iska yare) ee sida aan wada ogayn u hadlay, walaahi ummad halaagsan ayaa soomaali qoolta balaayo u galisay.

 

 

Waxaa ayaan darro ah in ninkii isku sheegaayay inuu soomaali u yahay madaxwayne uu sidaa u hadlayo, wallee somali dhib ayay ku jirtaaye ilaahay haka saaro. Ninkii laga sugayay inuu soomaali isku keeno ayaa maanta ku soo hogaaminayo amxaaro markii uu hadlana u hadlayo qayru maskuulnimo,,,, cajaaib....

 

 

Go figure:................

[General Duke]

Paragon, keep supporting the occupation of Inda Cade and Co, It is un-Islamic to support the criminal clan occupiers and alleged drug barons...

 

I have come across many cyber warriors like you before, who in the real world are persona non grata...

 

The TFG is united thus far, its legitimacy is not in doubt, the UN has given it the green light to arm itself and defend the nations interest from the likes of Cirfo, Indacede,Seeraar, Goobale who occupy a large swade of the nation and who now hide behind Islam.....................................................

 

Baydhabo: Xeerka gobollada iyo degmooyinka oo baarlamaanka Somaaliya ansixiyeen iyo dumarka oo caro wayn ka muujiyay.

Saturday, July 15, 2006

 

Baydhabo(AllPuntland)- Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya kulankii ay maanta ku yeesheen magaalada Baydhabo ayay si aad ah uga doodeen sharciga gobollada iyo degmooyinka Soomaaliya.

 

Illaa iyo 14 qodob ayaa maanta baarlamaanka hor yaallay, kuwaasoo u baahnaa in la isla ansixiyo , isla markaana maanta kulankooda looga gudbo.

 

Intii aan lagudo galin codaynta qodobadan ayaa waxaa mid mid loo falan qeeyay qodobadan, waxayna falan qayntan keentay in fikradaha qaarkood la isku afgaran waayo.

 

Qodobbada aadka sidoo kale looga dooday ,xasaasiyaddana keenay waxaa kamid ahaa qodobbada ka hadlayay awoodda , waxaana qodobkaasi caro ka muujiyay haweenka, oo sheegay in raggu ugu awood sheeganayaan baarlamaanka Soomaaliya.

 

Qodobka haweenku diiddanaayeen wuxuu ahaa in haweenku ay maamullada degmooyinka ku leeyihiin laba xubnood, halka caasimadahana ay ku leeyihiin 4 xubnood.

 

Xubnihii haweenka ee maanta baarlamaanka joogay oo 20 xubnood gaarayay ayaa bilaabay inay kor u qayliyaan isla markaana ku gacan sayraan qodobkan, waxay haweenka qaarkood bilaabeen inay miiska garaacaan , kuna dhawaaqaan" Sharci maahan arintaasi, dooni mayno iyo waxyaabo lamid ah".

 

Waxay ku cabanayeen in raggu ay isugu tagayaan, ayagoo sheegay in xubnahaasi aysan haweenka u qalmin , loona baahan yahay inay intaasi kabadan helaan.

 

Si kastooy ahaataba, buuq walba oo dhaca , waxaa markii danbe la isla ansixiyay 14kii qodob ee maanta la horkeenay baarlamaanka , kana yimid dhinaca wasiirada.

 

Guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka Soomaaliya Shariif Xasan Sheekh Aadan oo uu maanta daal ka muuqday ayaa si rasmi ah u soo gabo gabeeyay shirka baarlamaanka, wuxuuna xildhibaannada uga mahad celiyay inay isla ansixiyaan xeerarka maamullada degmooyinka iyo gobollada dalka Soomaaliya.

 

CCC Farayaamo

AllPuntland

[Che -Guevara]

There is definately split in TFG. No one wants an all out war. it has become apparent Ina Yusuf, and his cohorts in Xamar Soomaali filin ayee ujilaayeen.Waataa maata hoosta buu so wada gashade gidi. Haduu Rabaa asaga iyo tuugadii Xamar (Qaybdiid & Ceydiid aka alma diid) Puntland inee lacag iyo hub lago soo dhaco, reer mudug ( Qabiilada MJ and Sac alike) dagaal aysa rabin ma dhaxa loo galiyo asow wili ku riyoonaaye inee Amxaaro Baydbabo uu sii heeso.

 

The old man has no vision for this nation. Many thought him attaining the "Kursi" would change his destructive nature. There is nothing redeemable about Yeey. He is no statesman or patriot. He is niether politician nor intellect. He is simply illiterate soldier oo afmiishaar ah ,calooshiisna ushaqeesta just like his friend Aided ( Alla ha naxariisto). No wonder Ina Barre(Alla ha Naxariisto) inoo labadaan Xabsi u taxaabe markoo dowladii Cabdirashiid iyo Cigaal afgabiye.

 

Duke..Indhacade get wat is coming to him, one at a time please.All those dat wronged our people will pay.

[Thierry.]

I heard this earlier on today

Sharrif Hasan speaker of the parliament was rallying MP's and I believe it was around 150 MP's that want to go to Khartoum

[Uthman1]

It would be very wise of them to go

 

If this goes on for any longer we might see the government brake down

I would urge the TFG to keep intact and negotiate or it might dissolve before the courts get to Baydoa

[Paragon]

Duke: Paragon, keep supporting the occupation of Inda Cade and Co, It is un-Islamic to support the criminal clan occupiers and alleged drug barons...

 

I have come across many cyber warriors like you before, who in the real world are persona non grata...

 

The TFG is united thus far, its legitimacy is not in doubt, the UN has given it the green light to arm itself and defend the nations interest from the likes of Cirfo, Indacede,Seeraar, Goobale who occupy a large swade of the nation and who now hide behind Islam

Walaalow Duke, ma diinta Illaahey miyaad la dirarsantahay? Ma qabiil iyo diinta ayaad iga dooneeysaa inaan kala doorto oo aan taageero C.Yussuf? Inkastuu Odeygaa aad u daba-dhilifleyso reer aan aniga iyo asaga guud ahaan wadaagno, hadana Illaahbaa i lehe ee aan kugu dhaarshaye ma xaq ayaan baadhil ka doortaa? Adiga go'aankaaga qabiiliga eh ee aan diin iyo wanaagna lugta ku lahayn, waa mid adiga iyo Illaahaaga idinka dhaxayso ..aniguse waligaaba igu dacaayadee Indha-cade iyo shaqsiyaad la mid ah. Taas waxba ii dhimi mayso.

 

On the same token, I speak and state existing realities, and I do not give my support to anyone unduly. For that same reason, I have posted news articles and asked questions of potential outcomes-is it really that bad to ask questions about the TFG establishment? Does anyone who questions the TFG- even sincerely- deserve to be deemed enemy? Sxb chill- this is a forum, there isnt a need for warriors -cyber or real.

 

Besides, if I must remind you, I am consistantly promoting peace in the place of conflict, negotiation in the place of defiance. My support changes with the suitability of political and social strategies and who employs them best. If C.Yussuf had a sound agenda coupled with a good track record of political achievement, you know I won't have anything against him. Thus far, all I have witnessed from C.Yussuf is one failure after another and a great deal of incompetency in selecting the right people for high posts, which are essential to the successful fulfillment of the administrative duties (of governing Somalia according to the constitution of the country) to which the TFG was made responsible. The ICUs have achieved within a span of few weeks what Yussuf couldn't achieve in over one and a half year. If you want me to be fair to C.Yussuf or the TFG in general, tell me one tangible thing it has achieved? To be quite honest, none has been achieved by the TFG, that is as far as I know or can be varified by all Somalis.

 

Now, on the other hand, the Courts are not themselves blameless . Indhacade occupies poor farmers and has been accussed over numerious crimes. I am not protecting them and if there are those who wish to bring a case against him, then, by all means, they should. Sheikh Xassan Aweys has been called the domineering effect behind the whole ICU mechanization.

 

Some go as far as to call him a tribalist- Allahu Yaclam- I dont know what his real intentions are, but to be honest, the Courts have brought real peace back to Xamar. And by Allah I support them for that. Even a bonus is their religious dispoisition, which again I support. Allah knows what is in our hearts.

 

In my heart, my honest support stems from the want of welfare for my fellow Somalis wherever they are. If you or another person finds fault in that support of mine, you and they are welcome to express their feelings in whatever manner they so desire.

 

Fi Sabiilillaah.

[Duufaan]

Every time new opportunity presents for him,the old man creates unnecessary problem for himself. He just could sent small delegates with pro-conditions and avoid confrontation for the parliament. Now the court scored a big point for playing their political game better and he losing public support.Odey abdilaahi largest enemy is by himself,

[General Duke]

Jurile, Geedi are playing a silly game, and you are right Duufaan the old man is just being too stuborn..

[Gabbal]

I think all of you are under the illusion Abdulahi Yusuf is a master of his actions. Has it ever dawned on you that Zenewi does not want the TFG and the Islamic Courts to reach an agreement? Has anyone realized that maybe, just maybe, it is not in Ethiopia's interest to see a united Somali nation and that maybe, just maybe, when Abdulahi makes such a catastrophic political blunder as "boycott" talks in his favor that it is not his choice but the choice of his puppet masters who never want to see the two sides agree?

 

Sometimes I laugh, and pity, the simple mindedness of our peoples.

[Dhubad.]

^The old man either has poor advicers or he is not listening to anyone.

[General Duke]

^^^TFG suffers from bad management from day one. Geedi's appointment.

Jurile and the many silly advisors of the President have placed a strain in the whole process.

 

The TFG needs to negotiate, I would like them to make a deal with the courts. Confrontations erves the interst of no one least of all the Somali people..

[Gabbal]

^What the TFG suffers is miscalculated relationship that is a detriment to its objectives. How can the TFG unite the Somali Republic when its chief ally is doing everything in her power to stand against that?

 

How ironic. The people Abdulahi trusted have become the liability to his government's ability to succeed.

[Duufaan]

the Old man is not a puppet. He is a dictator by nature and paranoid. He only play the games,he know he is going to win. this case he calculated the Arabs more likely will favor the court, so he do not want gamble, but he forgot the somali people and losing public support is the worst could happen a political leader. A power can be measure the public support you can relied. If he loses this battle,he will lost quick. He can still repair the damage, lot of opportunity is his hand now.

[General Duke]

Duufaan is closer to the truth, though one must understand that there are bad apples on both sides. The courts have done well, but need to rid themselves of the warlord elements in them.

The TFG needs to replace the PM and whole cabinet, with a more effective and less incompetent fellows.

 

Those who do not want to lose their positions will try everything to stop a comprehensive peace...

 

The door should be open for negotiations with the people of Mogadishu, Jubas and so on and not with Indacade, AWAYS and others.,