Suicide Bombing

[xiinfaniin]

Suicide Bombing vs. Martyrdom in Jihad

 

Mar baad arag markhuun boqol jiroon mayrasha aqoone’e

Marna tobon jira mawlaca kitaab meeriyaad arage’e

 

Very few Muslims if any would argue the permissibility of suicide act from an Islamic perspective. But in this age of Muslim grievance where anger and emotions seem to have replaced reasoning, suicide bombing has become a conventional military tactic that is analogous to Martyrdom in Jihad. On these pages, we will put our fingers on this sensitive issue with objectivity. We will examine following topics:

 

1- Permissibility of Suicide Bombing [Rulings of Muslim Scholars]

2- Effectiveness of Suicide Bombing as a military tactic [Does it really work?]

3- Difference between Martyrdom in Jihad and Suicide Bombing

 

Stay tuned ya Jamaacah.

 

Waxa shooki loo dhigay wadani sheeg haddaad garato

[Laba-X]

Ninkii oomay dhalanteed biyuu u ictiqaadaaye

ilo iyo jidhaamay la tahay inuu arkaayaaye

wuxuu sii itaaloba haduu addinka gaadhsiiyo

uu ka cab yidhaah buu kulayl omos a taabtaaye

asafka iyo tiiraanyaduu kala uleeyaaye

 

 

Bal soo daa waxaad hayso...

[xiinfaniin]

1- Impermissibility of Suicide Bombing [Rulings of Muslim Scholars]

 

Lets first cite number of axaadiith and aayaat that unequivocally prohibits the act of suicide in general.

 

Ahaadiith of Muhammad (scw)

 

Whoever kills himself will certainly be punished in Hellfire, where he shall dwell forever 1

 

He who kills himself with anything, Allah will torment him with that in the Hellfire 2

 

Among those before you, there was a man in anguish from his wound. So he took a knife and cut his hands until he bled to death. Allah said: “My servant has hastened the ending of his life, so I forbid the Paradise for him.”3

 

Quran:

وَلاَ تَقْتُلُواْ أَنفُسَكُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ بِكُمْ رَحِيمًا وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَلِكَ عُدْوَانًا وَظُلْمًا

فَسَوْفَ نُصْلِيهِ نَارًا وَكَانَ ذَلِكَ عَلَى اللّهِ يَسِيرًا

 

And do not kill yourselves. (For) surely, Allah is Most Merciful unto you. And whoever commits that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into the Fire, and that is easy for Allah. 4

 

وَلاَ تُلْقُواْ بِأَيْدِيكُمْ إِلَى التَّهْلُكَةِ وَأَحْسِنُوَا 1618; إِنَّ اللّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُحْسِنِينَ

And do not cause your hands to contribute to your own destruction; but do good. Truly, Allah loves the good-doers 5

 

 

Lets then make quick distinction between these two types of acts:

1) an act of war which involves a suicide, such as a suicide bombing, and

2) an act of war which is apparently suicidal, such is a lone warrior charging the ranks of the enemy in the near-certain – never one hundred per cent certain – knowledge that he will be killed in the process.

 

There is clearly an appreciable diference between the two. One act is clearly commendable (2nd), while the other is predetermined, intentional taking of ones own life in a clear act of suicide (1st). The first act is obvious suicide, while the second act is what is called iqtihām.

 

Now since there is no precedent of suicide bombing in the history of Islam of the Sunni Muslim, lets take a look at what the two most revered Sunni scholars of our time said about this tactic:

 

1. Shaykh Muhammad Sālih bin Uthaymīn

 

As for what some people do regarding activities of suicide, tying explosives to themselves and then approaching non-Muslims and detonating them amongst them, then this is a case of suicide; and Allah’s refuge is sought. So whoever commits suicide then he will be consigned eternally to Hellfire, remaining there forever, as occurs in the hadīth of the Prophet, saying: “And whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, then the iron weapon will remain in his hand, and he will continuously stab himself in his belly with it in the Fire of Hell eternally, forever and ever".

 

As youcan see Shaykh Uthaymīn held suicide bombing to be harām in absolute terms because the tactic rests upon something which is itself harām in absolute terms (i.e. suicide):

 

2. Imam Muhammad Nāsir ad-Dīn al-Albāni

 

We say suicide operations, now, in the present times, all of them are without legislation and all of them are forbidden. It could be that the person who commits it could fall into the category of those who remain in Hellfire forever, or it could be that he does not remain in the Hellfire forever... We know how fighting was in the past, with swords, spears (and the like). And this fighting, in those days would resemble (an act of) suicide. For example, when you get one soldier facing several soldiers from the enemy army of idolaters and he attacks them left and right… and there is little chance of him surviving this. We say about this, that in one way it is allowed and in another it is not... (Depending on) whether the Islamic ruler or the caliph of the Muslims permits. Because, the leader of the Muslims has to take into account the welfare of his people. The khalīfa of the Muslims should try to understand the situation as best of possible. He would understand when it is required for one hundred Muslim soldiers to fight one thousand of the polytheists… or less than that or more, and he calculates how many of them will perish – that is, tens of them will die, etc., but he will know the end result will be victory for the Muslims.

As you can see Imam al-Albāni considered even the apparent suicidal charge of a lone warrior against larger enemy formations impermissible unless specifically sanctioned by the supreme Muslim ruler, the same exact prerequisite al-Albāni argued against the permissibility of jihad in our time. For suicide act, it is clear that al-Albāni does not permit it and agrees with the rest of Sunni Ulumaa.

 

** compiled by Miskiin xiin

[Castro]

Xiin, anyone who argues in favor of suicide bombing (as I did years earlier) is either ignorant, misguided or willfully trying to deceive.

 

Let another man or woman come to this topic and argue otherwise.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Kullu caam wa antum bikheyr yaa Castro

 

I agree but this, Awoowe, is xamlah cilnmiyyah for the misguided amongst us.

[Laba-X]

Good to see that you are using concrete evidences. This is good and means that our views in the matter are set aside as we illustrate the opinions and what the scholars say about the issue.

 

One thing though. Source yaa Xiin, Sources!!! Where can I find the writings of the two scholars that you cited???

 

All the evidences you mentioned, except for the two scholars, are indicating that killing oneself is haraam – that is killing oneself to escape some harm in this world.

 

In Islam suicide committed to elevate pain or adversities or misery and so forth is forbidden. The hadith you cited illustrates this. On the authority of Jundub Ibn Abdullah that the prophet narrated a story of a man with a wound, and he was in anguish, so he took a knife and cut his hands, and the blood did not stop until he died. Allah said: “my servant has hastened the ending of his life, so I have prohibited paradise from him” (Bukhari 3463, Muslim 116) And there is no difference among the scholars that the person who commits suicide for the above mentioned reasons has fallen into a major sin, which makes him deserving punishment of the hereafter.

 

As for the verse that prohibits Killing oneself, Imam al-Qurtubi explains that this ‘implies a prohibition for a person to kill himself due to any worldly desire… it also implies the meaning of ‘do not kill yourselves due to misery or fury.’ (Tafsir al Qurtubi 5/156)

 

And while death to end one’s grief over his life or for any other worldy purpose is forbidden, seeking death in the path of Allah is encouraged. It is also clear that immersing oneself in a place where one’s death is guaranteed is forbidden, but when in Jihad and it is for benefiting the Deen and raising the Word of Allah, not only is it legal but it is much beloved (Mandub) as in the Hadith of Abu Hurairah that the best among the people of this Ummah is the one who flies on his horse whenever he hears the call for battle, seeking death and being slain with eagerness. (sahih Muslim 1889). And there are many other ahadith to prove that it is even liked by Allah.

 

As for the two types of acts that you illustrate, both of them are intentional. In both situations, the Mujahid knows that his death is certain. A lone warrior charging into the enemy ranks would do so to attain Shahaada – he knew with certainty that his death is a few steps away from him and so he would charge forward chanting the Takbeer.

 

Let us shed some light on this:

 

You see in the early days, the manner of martyrdom operations were that a Mujaahid immerses himself in the ranks, say a thousand or so, of the Kuffar with certainty that he will be killed. He is sure of his death as he plunges forth but the action he is performing is beneficial to the Muslims, so it is permissible. This is the consensus of the Four Imaams, says Ibn Taymiyyah (Fatawa Al Kubra 4/352)

 

On the day of Yarmuk, as Ibn Casaakir and Ibn kathir narrate, a man came to Abu Uubayda ibn Jarrah and said to him ‘I’ve decided upon myself to exert the utmost effort against them (until they kill me), so do you wish for me to relay something to your prophet? Abu ubaydah replied: ‘give him my greetings of peace and inform him that we have indeed found true what our Lord has promised us’ so the man went forth and immersed himself into the ranks of the Kuffar and fought until he was martyred. He was the first to be martyred in the battle. (tarikh Ad-Dimishq 76/101 by ibn Asakir and bidaya wan-Nihaya 7/11 by Ibn Kathir)

 

On the day of Yarmuk also, as narrated by the great Mufassir Ibn Jarir At-Tabari in his Tarikh (2/338) is the famous story of Ikrama ibn Abu Jahl who came to the commander (Khalid Ibn Waleed) and said to him that he is going to attain Shahada by immersing himself into the heart of the enemy. He called for anyone who would give him a Baycah for death. Harith Ibn Hisham and Dhiraar along with four hundred knights, Khalid tried to talk him out of it by reminding him that they need him more but Ikrama was adamant and said that it would be a payback for the past sins and for fighting the religion of Allah in his days of ignorance. He took the followers ready for martyrdom and rushed forth to the enemy until they were all martyred.

 

On the day of Yamamah, Salim, the freed-slave of Abu Xudayfa, dug himself a trench and stood in it (in order to prevent him form leaving) carrying the flag of the Muhajireen and fought until he was martyred.

 

On the day of Uxud, Abu Dujana made himself into a human shield protecting the Prophet from the arrows. This incident is used to prove that it is permissible to sacrifice oneself to protect the valuable commander of the army, so what about the entire religion? Similar incident is that of Abu Talha when he stood in front of the prophet and stretched forth his chest to block the arrows saying ‘May Allah make me a sacrifice for you’ (Sahih al-Mawaarid, authenticated by Sh. Albani, and also in Bukhari, Muslim). When mentioning this issue in his Sahih, Ibn Hibban writes: ‘mentioning the permissibility for a man to sacrifice himself for his Imam’ and then mentioned the incident of Abu Talha.

 

Al Bayhaqi narrated in his As-Sunanul Kubra (9/100) that one of the Ansar was late when the massacre of his companions took place at the well of Ma’unah. By the time he’d arrived, vultures were already devouring the flesh of his companions. He told Amr bin Ummayyah: ‘I am going to go forward into this enemy, so they can kill me. I don’t want to be left behind when our companions have been killed.’ He did as he said and was killed by the enemy. When Amr (the only survivor) went back to the prophet and narrated the story, the prophet said some good words about that man and then asked Amr, ‘and why didn’t you go ahead with him’?

 

The goal of this man was neither to harm the enemy nor to defend himself or his companions, rather it was to attain Shahaada.

 

Also from narrated by Al Bayhaqi in the afore mentioned book and Abdullah ibn Mubarak in his Kitaba al-jihad, that on the day of Yamamah when the Banu Haneefa had fortified the garden of Musaylama and there was no way for the Muslims to enter the garden, Bara Inb Malik ordered his companions to put him in the catapult and throw him over. They did as he told them and threw him over. Inside the fort were more than 20,000 troops.

 

When fighting a large Roman army, a man from among the Muslims left the ranks of the Muslims and charged on his own until he plunged himself into the ranks of the kuffar and was in their midst. The Muslims shouted ‘he has thrown himself into destruction’ and cited the verse. Abu Ayyub Al-Ansari heard them and reprimanded them, saying that ‘you give this (wrong) interpretation to this verse but it was revealed concerning us, the Ansar.’ He explained to them that the verse was for those who chose to stay with their wealth instead of going for Jihad (Abu da’wud and Tirmidhi, authenticated by Sh. Albani)

 

All these examples and countless others show that immersing oneself into the ranks of the Kuffar to attain Shahada is not only permissible but, rather, praiseworthy.

 

This I believe we are in agreement on as your earlier posts tends to suggest. But you should note that the Mujahid in this type of situation is directly involved in the process – he is seeking death and he knows 100%, contrary to your doubt, that he will be killed. The above examples illustrate this point very clearly, so there are no uncertainties, as you claim.

 

 

Today’s Marytrdom Operations:

 

As for the current martyrdom operations where one packs himself with explosives and blows himself up taking scores of Jews and Christians with him, then this is what the Scholars had to say about it:

 

 

Sh Albani was asked a question:

 

‘regarding modern-day militant operations, where suicidal brigades wear explosives and go to the tanks of the enemy repressing the Muslims (Jewish in this case), and then he gets killed. What is the ruling regarding this, is this considered suicide or something else?’

 

The Sheikh answered:

 

This is not suicide. Because suicide, is when a person kills himself to escape a hard life which he is going through. But as for this thing which you are talking about, this is not suicide. Rather, this is Jihad in the path of Allah.

 

But there is a note which should be considered – this type of action should not be carried out individually, or alone (based on one’s own decisions). Rather it should only be carried out according to the command of the leader of the Jaysh.

 

The Sheikh continues explaining and after a while the Questioner interrupts:

 

‘So there is no problem in doing such?

 

The Sheikh responded:

 

‘No there is no problem in doing such. We (the scholars) do not label this as suicide. And suicide is one of the worst sins Allah has prohibited… As for this (Mujahid), then he goes forth, as many of the Salafu Saalix, and from amongst the companions and those after them – used to go forth, plunging into the kuffar enemy attacking them with his sword, and used the sword against them, until they were killed.

 

But if it is done haphazardly and on one’s own decision, the this goes under the warning of self-destruction. But if it is done upon the command of the leader of the army, the one who knows the realities of the battlefield, and its necessities, and its benefits, etc – then this is something permissible. No rather it is something virtuous.

 

Refer to the series of tapes of the Sheikh – Silsila Al Huda wan-Nuur’ tape no 134. it can also be downloaded from the net.

 

 

Sheikh Muxammad Ibn Saalix Al-Cuthaymeen was asked:

 

‘O noble Sheikh! You, may Allah preserve you, have heard about what events took place on Wednesday… when more than twenty Jews were killed at the hands of one of the Mujahideen, and more than fifty Jews were injured. And this was done by the Mujahid after strapping explosives on himself, and then he entered into one of the celebrations of the Jews, and exploded it… so is this action considered suicide, or is it Jihad?’

 

The Sheikh answered:

 

‘This young man who wore these things…who is the first one he kills? He kills himself… so there is no doubt that he is the one who caused his own death. So this is not permissible in such a situation, except if there is a great benefit (Maslaxa) for Islam. (it is not permissible) to merely kill a handful of individuals or to merely injure the leaders or commanders of the jews.

 

But if there is a great benefit, and a big interest in it for Islam, then verily, it is permissible. And Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah has proved this and gave an example using the young boy (from the people of the Ditch)

 

What is apparent from the Sheikh’s (Ibn Taymiyya) opinion, is that he views these types of operations are in need of being examined with deep understanding of, and pondering about, and looking into the outcomes and fruits of these operartions, by choosing the heavier of the benefits and deterring the more harmful things. So the Sheikh (Ibn Taymiyyah) has attached the ruling of such operations on the outcomes of them. And that if there is a great benefit for the Muslims and raising the banner of Tawhid, then it is permissible… and it is obvious that it is upto the experts of the Jihad – and that is none other than the commanders of the Mujahideen – to look into these matter.

 

Refer to the series of tapes ‘Al-liqa Ash-Shahri’, tape No 20. This can also be downloaded from the Sheikh’s website.

 

 

Al Imaam, AL-Xaafidh, Ash-Sheikh Sulayman Al-Ulwaan was asked:

 

‘You know what is happening to the Palestinians at this time from the crimes of the Jews and the humiliating Arab silence. So is there, in the self-sacrificial operations against the Jews, any position from the Shari’ah?’

 

After talking briefly about the Jews, the Sheikh answered:

 

…When the enemies of Allah place their swords upon the throats of Muslims and terrorize their children and elderly, and overtake their states and violate their chastity - then it is obligatory from among all the people iof ability to fight them and spill their blood and make an ongoing Jihad against them until the full liberation of Palestine and all the countries of the Muslims. And it is not allowed in the Shari’ah to surrender any of the lands of the Muslims and to make peace with them…

 

And I see in this time, in which the Muslims are unable to (fully) fight the Jews and destroy them and expel them from the Holy land, the best treatment and the greatest medicine that we apply to the brother of monkeys and pigs (i.e. Jews) is that we perform these martyrdom operations, and put forward our souls as a sacrifice for the motivation of Eeman, and for praiseworthy goals, such as planting terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve and inflicting damage upon their bodies and losses in their wealth.

 

And the evidences permitting the martyrdom operations are many and I have mentioned elsewhere around ten evidences, and I’ve listed their fruits abd the benefits of performing them.

 

The Sheikh, then illustrates the example of the young boy from the people of the Ditch and says:

 

‘And the goal of these two actions (of the young boy, and the martyrdom operations) is making the truth victorious and supporting it, and inflicting harm upon the Jews and Christians and the Mushrikeen and their allies, and weakening their strength and striking terror into their souls’

 

Read “verdict regarding the permissibility of Martyrdom operations’ by the Sheikh.

 

Also read the fatwa of Sheikh Abdullah ibn Xumayd in Majallah Filistiin, #5, pages24-25.

 

 

Wa-Salaam!

[genius pauper.]

masha ALLAH.

am really happy about your post laba-x. thnks

[Geel_jire]

My personal opinion with regards to suicide bombing is that it is not such a black/white issue There are very important factors to consider e.g

 

i. Disparity between yourself and the enemy

ii. Innocent bystanders*

 

By Disparity between yourself and the enemy I have in mind something like the situation the Palestinians find themselves in today. They are so outgunned (Nukes vs Rocks) that it is absurd to expect them to fight on equal footing as two opposing armies or charging their ranks they will pick you off without breaking a sweat .. so your death is useless to the Muslims you are fighting for.

 

In such cases where Asymmetric warfare is a necessity suicide bombing have proven effective time and again and I wholeheartedly endorse them. may Allah S.W.T reward the martyrs.

 

If I apply this principle to Somalia the disparity between the enemy and the mujahidin is not so large .. they can feasibly face each other in combat thereby not necessitating suicide bombing operations .. and thereby avoiding large numbers of civilian casualties.

 

As to Innocent bystanders, this is my biggest problem with suicide bombing when large number truly innocent bystanders are killed for example the incident last month at hotel shamow with the graduation ceremony.

 

Innocent bystander does not apply to Israelis as the civilians are even worse then their armed forces ... (e.g the IDF forces protecting Palestinians from mobs of settlers )I believe they are all fair game.

 

These two issues serve as my personal filter as to how good a particular suicide bombing is here are a few examples.

 

Suicide bombings that I endorse

• Operation killing 8 CIA officers in Afhganistan
• Any Operation that kills occupation forces in Afghanistan,Iraq,Palestine or Somalia
• Al-shabaab operation carried inside the AU compound killing their commander
• Any operation carried out against Israelis

 

Suicide bombings that I have a problem with

• Shamow hotel operation kiling medical students
• Any operation resulting the casualty of large number of innocents

The above is my personal opinion and if sharia contradicts it I would be willing to discard it completely but trying to do any decent research on this subject there is too much background noise to ferret out accurate info.

 

I hope the discussion between LX and xiin brings some enlightenment to this issue for me.

[Xaaji Dhagax.]

Great discussion indded. Although, both of you have cited the same source(i.e. Albani) to support your case...obviously you can not both be right on that one. Xiin pls provide your sources so that we can compare?

 

Laba-X I would like you to shed a light on the case of the innocent bystanders who are get killed by such operation....like for example the Al-Shabaab operaion in Baladwayen few months ago where a group of innocent Muslim people lost their lives.?

[N.O.R.F]

Originally posted by Dhagax.:

Laba-X I would like you to shed a light on the case of the innocent bystanders who are get killed by such operation....like for example the Al-Shabaab operaion in Baladwayen few months ago where a group of innocent Muslim people lost their lives.?

That my friend, is the $1m question. On the one hand you have a claim that we are in the midst of a period of Jihad and that those who are participating are abiding by the Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh) and on the other you have those same people blowing up Muslims left right and centre (even during the latter months of Muxarram). One doesn't need to produce Quranic verses, ahadeeth or scholarly opinions to establish this is wrong and not part of the protocals of jihad.

[Jacpher]

^That's assuming there's jihaad in Somalia. I have yet to come across a prominent Somali scholar arguing what is taking place in Somalia is a legitimate jihaad.

 

Ironically those calling for suicide bombing never clip the belt on their own chest. They find some poor kid probably from an orphanage to do it. This clearly demonstrates they themselves don't believe in the operation. They are using the bodies of the kids as bombs. Godane, Mansuur, Labo-x, Geeljire, put up or shut up. Lead by example. If this is not a religious conviction that you don't believe in it wholeheartedly, then stop hijacking my religion for your evil political agenda. Find a different card to play than dragging this beautiful name (Islam) in the blood your fellow Muslims.

[N.O.R.F]

Originally posted by Jacphar:

^That's assuming there's jihaad in Somalia.

True. I did say it was only a claim.

[Laba-X]

^^^ The thread starter is going by way of substantial evidences and scholarly sources, not mere opinions! So for your claims here, it is up to you to prove that we are not in the middle of a Jihad in Somalia, and that those lads are acting contrary to the teachings of Qur’an and Sunnah, and shed some light on when fighting is prohibited during the Sacred months?

 

Haatuu Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen…

 

Dhagaxow, we will deal with the innocent bystanders once good old Xiin concludes his argument about the permissibility of the whole operation insha-Allah! Bear with us…

[N.O.R.F]

^Are you not the one making the claim saxib? The onus is on you to provide the basis for your claim (that Somalia is in the midst of Jihad).

 

You will provide a sound basis for the following:

 

1. Opposing the govnt

 

2. Fighting the govnt (after 3 months of no action)

 

3. Use of suicide bombings in places where civilians mingle (or is this considered collateral?)

 

4. Refusal to attend peace talks (go back to your other thread about when it is permissable to kill etc)

[LayZie G.]

LABA XINIIN, if one were to closely look into the figures that you have quoted above, one would easily reach the conclusion that you have run out of reasoning by resolving to quotes of some of the most controversial, ancient figures, whose propaganda is just that, propaganda and should be dismissed along with you but not before I highlight some of the colorful figures aaad adiga caabudid as candidly as I can.

 

For instance, you have quoted the angry figure aka Taymiyyah, whose fatwas were mostly an attack against the invaders and rationale of the previous muslim empire whose failure was on the hands of the invaders the mongols...

 

He was angry and bitter figure and that is for all to read and for this reason, his work was never objective, not even after the some of the leadership of the mongol empire converted to Islam. For this reason, he will never be a legitimate source of truth and therefore, I will easily eliminate him from your reasoning as an authority source that condones bombing innocent people. He is after all, the role model of some of the most prominent figures in the terrorist community today, you should know that...

 

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Al Imaam, AL-Xaafidh, Ash-Sheikh Sulayman Al-Ulwaan

alleged terrorist....

 

you could have done better than him dear? Al -Ulwaan of all people? He should have been in Gitmo, thats what.

 

This Saudi will never be a truly be a respected authority that the Muslim Community worldwide would turn to for guidance in what is deemed acceptable, especially when it involves bomb making, for his answer will always be yes, "bomb the infidels", therefore, you have to do better than him. I have faith in you that in time, you can convince yourself out of bombing self.

 

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Sheikh Abdullah ibn Xumayd(grand mufti of saudia arabia)

 

 

Another Saudi, or as I like to call him, the steve wonder of Arabia...God bless him and his blindness, for he memorized everything he knew, which means you and your likes need to do more reading, less audi tapes and videos, that way you dont follow his path when the time come when you will expiry like him.

 

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Al Bayhaqi, if it isn't the al bayhagi, the catholic equivalent of Saint IGnatius of Loyola.....may may, you really dig when you dig, but his rationale on the subject is outdated and you can not justify 21st problem with 10th century verdict, no way jose.

 

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Yes, Tabari, the prominent Muslim historian, his narrations were just that narrations, nothing more nothing less. A reproduced work of other scholars, told more vividly, polished to capture the attention of the reader was just that, work of art. If Tabari was alive today, he would tell you that his stories should not be taken as Gospel. His well chronicled of historical events, his method of presentation, his vast knowledge of other fields was nothing short of remarkable but I fail to see how the man and his work supports your argument that sucide bombing is halal.

 

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I can keep going ya Laba XIIN and point to the other Yemeni figure and how he is irrelevant to this discussion as the civilized world is now AT WAR WITH YEMENI REBELS but again, how does this help you or your cause?

 

Be creative, use judgement and reason to justify the behaviour of abnormal individuals or say "my imaam said so" or something like that as other prominent figures in the terrorist community have done in the past but do not quote ancient and some 20th century terrorists as a way to present an argument, for that, you will lose followers and who then will take up the cause?