Che -Guevara Posted May 11, 2009 Oh lord...here comes another one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamaavi Posted May 11, 2009 You can see sxb the history of Republic of Somalia is a very shady one; one that does not include justice but rather respect for those that have the bigger artillery. For the past century, many heroes have lost their lives while seeking a vision to see United Somalis and today, instead of using their legacy as a model and following their footsteps, Somalis in return trash their legacy. Since the day Somalis took their independence, they have done nothing for the Somali people of Ogad'enia, therefore I don’t see why Ogad'enis should be the only people in favor of One Somalia. I hope you don't need exmaples for this cause it is all what we know, facts !!! My point is we must come up with our own plan in order to be successful. We must stop this 'dependence' mentality on somalia, its simply not working. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted May 11, 2009 ^Somalia could barely help its self now, let alone Ocaden, and I actually do agree with you Ocaden should not "depend" on anyone. That said, you should not dishonor the lives of Somalis (forget the government) who gave up their lives in 77, and go out of your way to make distinctions between Somalis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 11, 2009 Originally posted by Abdinasir Kadawo: quote:Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: quote: Our fight with Ethiopia has nothing to do with Somalia Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... wondering what happened to the 5ta soomaaliyeed dream .. Shan baa ku waashay adna. Let me tell you that UNITY of the shanta is dream, just a dream of those somalis who are for PAN-somalism and free from clanish sentiments. Nacasnimadaadaa meelkasta la taagantahay. Always looking for reasons to discredit Soomaaliweynimo. If you don't like it, there are other people who love that dream. Everybody can't be clanist, you know. Well, caydu meesha kuma jirto waaryee .... Haday soomaalinimo sidaa kuugu weyn tahay orodoo gurigaaga hagaajiso ,,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdinasir Kadawo Posted May 11, 2009 gurigeyga is Hargeisa! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 11, 2009 sheegato.com .............. keligaase maaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdinasir Kadawo Posted May 11, 2009 what does sheegato mean, according to you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted May 11, 2009 ^You are not from his Qabiil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdinasir Kadawo Posted May 11, 2009 Actually that is what I was suspecting. But I didn't want to speculate, you know. I just wanted to hear from him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamaavi Posted May 11, 2009 Adeero Che, I can understand your frustration and it is legitimate. You are right on that Somalia could barely help it self today. As for making no distictions between the two countries and their people, I can give you only my opinion and I should also give you what I see to be the viable interest of the people of Ogad'enia but ultimately the decision lies with the people, they have to decide whether to become one with the Republic of Somalia or not. A.My Opinion: Yes. Ogad'enia should join Somalia. I say this because I’m a firm believer of Greater Somalia. I have vision of One United Somali under one leadership. I can see this Somalia being the Model for One United Africa that surfaces to be completive force for both economical and also military wise so as to have a say into how the future of this world is shaped but this is a Vision of mine and the reality is far from what’s currently happening in that part of the world. Ogad'enia should eventually join Somalia once liberated but not right away, Somalia has to show it has changed its way of doing business . In short, Somalia has to be libarated first...?? B: Where the Interest of Ogade'nia as a nation lies: This is where reality kicks in and the answer of this is NO! Ogad'enia should not join Somalia. 1. There is no forcing factor for Ogad'enia to join Somalia. Ogad'enia has everything that qualifies it a nation to stand on its own. One being the big E (Economical sustainability). 2. This land has history so unique from the rest of Somali regions. 3. Joining Somalia will mean taking the back seat to well-established gangs who know nothing but canning and destruction (this tough for me admit but the nature of Somalis is one to be ashamed of). 4. Very high percentage of the population from this land currently reside outside of this land therefore once the freedom bells ring, many repatriates who have been living in exile for the past century will move back and this ingredient will give an advantage to this nation once liberated to have a speedy process of becoming strong and independent nation. On the other hand, the Somali people who we have welcome as our own from the wars in Somalia are the exact ones who are working behind our back today, trust me when I say this cause I am speaking for alot of people who don't want to say such things . Some Somali immigrants have tried to take advantage of the political situation in our province. Honestly, you may never get the clear picture of the issue in Ogad'enia, cause you lot are not willing to say the truth nor to be told and it is clear from your first post. Best regards, Farancab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 11, 2009 Originally posted by Abdinasir Kadawo: what does sheegato mean, according to you? Sheegato is like you ............ it is when some somalis say they are Arabs which they are not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdinasir Kadawo Posted May 11, 2009 What the H3LL is going on here? What are you on my brother? When did I say I'm an arab? Or is Hergaisa an arab city now? confused.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted May 11, 2009 Farancab...Truth is relative, you of all people should be know that, but I do respect you looking out for your OWN interest. Perhaps Somalis should do the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 11, 2009 Originally posted by Abdinasir Kadawo: What the H3LL is going on here? What are you on my brother? When did I say I'm an arab? Or is Hergaisa an arab city now? confused.com Well, stay confused ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdinasir Kadawo Posted May 11, 2009 Sometimes I get the feeling I am discussing with a 10 year old boy. Answer me, when did I said I am Arab? I said; "gurigeyga is Hargeisa" You said; "you are sheegato" I said; "what do you mean sheegato" You said; "you believe you are an Arab when you are not and that is sheegato" I asked and asking now; "what has "gurigeyga is Hargeisa" got to do with the Arab nonsense you are vomiting?" Just answer me, what makes me sheegato when I say "gurigeyga is Hargeisa". Or is che right? I don't belong to right clan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
