The swift popularity and the precipitous decline of Gen. Abdullah (Ilka Jiir)

[Fiqikhayre]

^Splendind, Splendid Duke has unmasked another fallacy.

 

Western Bari? What is that? This has never been even proposed but judging by their poor date keeping I wonder not that this too falls under their noses.

 

What a total and utter rubbish. But considering that some SOLer's write this 'editorials' it comes not to a surprise the fallacies we see in it.

[Saalax]

I don't understand when makhiir websites are talking about bari they refer to it as western bari, while they don't like when other websites and people refer to their land as eastern sanaag?

[Thankful]

I think we all know who wrote this "Editorial"! In fact it's obvious for anyone that has read his style of writing before on SOL.

 

It's sad though that the facts are so weak and when you point out mistakes they start to use the clan defense!

 

If someone points out a clear and valid discrepancy, don't take it presonal.

 

Libaahe* ,

 

It's the never ending contradictions of their Radical Diaspora! They dont believe a place called Eastern Sanaag exists, but there is a place called Western Bari.

[Xudeedi]

Desperate Sakhar, or shall I say our good old Duke is spotted double dealing. Your arguments are very weak as usual. Western Bari is a region that shares affiliation with Sanaag and Haylaan, just like Northern Mudug, it’s a region that differentiates itself from the wider Bari region due to the clan make-up of it’s inhabitants.

 

The same way u have north mudug you have western bari if you know what I mean

Same men (SSDF), who labeled Galgala as part of Sanaag are very disappointed to acquire that Somali’s are informed.

[General Duke]

Xudeedi: lol. You think everyone is double dealing, but the irony is no one forced the editor to make such fundamental mistakes. Ilka-Jiir did not serve even two years, and there is no Western Bari region anywhere that he could have created an admin for.

 

Thus if the research is so flawed then what of the whole premise of the article?

[Xudeedi]

Western Bari region includes Galgala, Ceel Daahir, Balikhadar, Karin, Jingada, Afurur, Maraje, Madarshoon, Laag, etc. Galgala is fairly a large in contrast to some of the towns appointed as districts in the SSDF side of Bari, yet Ilka Jiir as the interior minister has failed to implement the demands of his constituency.

 

Northern Mudug is not a region and the SSDF constituency accounts for only 1 ½ of the original 5 districts the region had. Thus, Western Bari exists so long as Mudug exists. To deny the existence of a community is a desperate man’s tactic.

[General Duke]

The usual emotive arguments won’t rescue the editorial from this debacle.

 

After three years in his tenure as the interior minister of Puntland, he has yet to create a viable administration in Sanaag, Haylan (Highland), and Western Bari.

Again how does one take seriously these portals who are working ever so hard to create discord and division?

The editor does not know how long Ilka-Jiir has been a Minister, and then laughably claims that he [ilka-Jiir] did not create an admin for a region that does not exist within the state.

Whats more ammusing is that one is digging a deep hole instead of just admiting to the error.

[Thankful]

Originally posted by Xudeedi:

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This is a very well written editorial from an outlet with a reputation of promoting the General.

 

Dhahar.com is an independent outlet that operates with respect to international media guidelines in relevance to the community it services.

This was my issue with the poorly written and referenced article. It's how Xudeedi called it "very well written" and how it "operates with respect to international media guidelines."

 

How can you possibly say this was very well written with the mistakes that you have been shown! Stop exaggerating stuff!

[Thankful]

Nevertheless, he was oblivious to the responsibilities and leadership requirements that came with such great power.

After two years in his tenure as the interior minister of Puntland,

he has yet to create a viable administration in Sanaag, Haylan (Highland), and Western Bari.

 

 

Dhahar correction

 

I see you decided to change what was on Dhahar!

However he hasn't even finished 2 years yet, he accepted the post in January 2009! So it would to be appropriate to say after "ALMOST."

 

Anyways, I guess for Dhaharonline the facts don't have to be spot on and this is good enough.

 

Next time you should post it on here first and let us fact check your information.

[Xudeedi]

Thanksful: Did you even look up what an editorial is?

 

As usual, fascist clan worshippers (SSDF) are the only radicals criticizing this well argued piece. The fact that a quantative error, which is insignificant as far as the overall message intended to convey, Is your strongest attack to this piece says a lot about its quality.

 

Your geting migraines from the fact that Galgala is in Western Bari, don’t blame Xudedi, blame the former Somali national government.

 

The intention was to teach the community, that they too are important and can hold their leaders accountable.

 

It's funny the only editorials debated on SOL are Makhiri's. Write or is Faroole son's gibberish the best SSDF can present.

[Xudeedi]

Thanksful: lol

 

I'm sure dhahar.com appreciates it's fans.

[General Duke]

Still the only problem now is the regions, Haylan[has no admin] Sanaag, might need something yes but as we note Bari already has a governor, and a new one at that. So yes Gen Ilka-Jiir has some work to do in the base area.

[Thankful]

Editorials can be signed or unsigned. Dhaharonline almost always has the person name at the end. But this one didn't

!!

****UPDATE***

 

Hey the article now includes the individuals name. Which is Mohamed A. Elmi!!!

 

Well done!!***

 

You want to say that "yeah there are mistakes, but ignore them and believe the rest." It doesn't work that way.

 

Anyways, the article is better now, it's the E.Sanaag and W.Bari's diaspora's opinion, which I dont agree with but I will respect.

 

I personally see the pictures of Ilka-Jiir and the Vice President as proof of who the people living in these area's really support.

 

The radical diaspora can write as many articles as they want but the Puntland government has Atam recorded talking about a terrorist organization, as well they produce pictures of them freely roaming his former base, deep in western bari.

 

The articles you and Dhaharonline write, cannot match concrete evidence like this!

[Xudeedi]

Is Atam really giving the whole clan(SSDF) nightmares?

 

Xuux, adeer hold yours and stop dropping unnecessary tears.

[General Duke]

^^^lol. Attam, is no issue, as have been told he was just wasting your time.