MR ORGILAQE Posted August 25, 2005 jaamacada Carabta oo gashaanka udaruurtay in Somalilad ay ka go'do jamhuuriyada Soomaaliya. Posted to the Web Aug 25, 17:18 Qahira:-Xogahaya jaamacada Carabta Mr: Camar Muusa ayaa gashaanka udaruuray in ay kasoo qayb galaan shirarka jaamacada Carabta ay leedahay Maamulka lamagac baxay Somaliland kaasoo ku andacoonaya inuu ka go'ay Wadanka Soomaaliya. Arrintaas ayaa timid kadib markii dalab rasmi ahi uu soo gudbiyay Madaxwaynaha maamulkaas Daahir Riyaale Kaahin isla markaana uu kaga codsaday jaamacada Carabta in ay ka qayb galaan shirarka jaamacada ayna noqdaan xubin buuxda Calana looga taago Xarunta jaamacada Carabta ee magaalada Qaahira , markaana ay kasoo qayb galaaan shirarka iyo kulamada ay qabanayso jaamacadu. Qoraalkaas oo muda bil kahor ay soo gudbisay Wasiirada Ariimaha Dibada ee Maamulka lamagac baxay Somaliland Mrs,Adnah , ayaa qoraal rasmi ahi waxaa uu kasoo baxay shalay jaamacada Carabta oo isla markaana loo qaybiyay Saxafada Aduunka, qoraalkaas oo xanbaarsanaa jawaab kulul oo jaamacada Carabtu ay ka bixisay arrinkaa ayaa lagu sheegay "SOMALIA WAA WADAN KALIYA OO MIDAYSAN BAD IYO BARIBA XUDUUDIISUNA AY QEEXAN TAHAY, SOMALILAND WAA QAYB AAN MARNA KA GO'I KARIN JAMHUURIYADA SOOMAALIYA , JAAMACADA CARABTA XEER HOOSAADKEEDA IYO GOLAYAASHEEDU MA ICTIRAAFI KARAAN MARNABA, MAAMUL ISAGU ISKII ISU MAGACAABAY ISLA MARKAANA SI AAN SHARCI AHYN UDOONAYA INUU KA GO'O WADANKA SOOMAALIYA ,SIDOO KALE XUDUUDAHA UU MAMULKAASI SAMAYSTAY , IYO DHAMAAN MAGACA UU LA BAXAY MARNA MA AHAN KUWA LA TIXGALINAYO WAXAANA AANU NAQAANA SOOMAALIA MIDA, WAANA JAMHURIYADA SOOMAALIYA OO 1973 KU SOO BIIDHAY IYADOO HAL MIDA JAAMACADA CARABTA ". Nuqulkaasi waxaa uu kamid ahaa qoraalkii ay jaamacada Carabta ka soo saadhay dalabkii maamulka Soomaliland uu u soo gudbistay bil ka hor ah , hadaba Camaar Muuse oo Saxaafada u waramayay ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in uu jaamacada Carabtu ay si qayaxan u diidan tahay in dowlada Soomaaliya la kala gooyo. Waxaana uu sheegay Caamir Muusa isaga oo la hadlaya maamulka Somaliland , marna idin ictiraafi mayno oo sidaas kaliya ma lihine waxaanu ka shaqayn doona midnamada Soomaaliya, qoraalo rasmi ahna waxaanu udirnay golayaasha caalamiga ah iyo kuwa gobalada sida UN , AUE , IYO URURKA CAALAMDKA ISLAAMKA , aanu ku boorinayno in laga wada sheqeeyo Soomaalyia oo midaysan , waxaana uu Caamir Muuse uu tilmaamay in dowlada Soomaaliya hada ay tahay cida kaliya oo matali karta shacabka iyo umada Soomaaliyeed, sidaa awgeed ayuu yiri waxaanan aqbali doonin in cidaan wadan magaca Soomaaliya ay soo galaan xarunta jaamacada Carabta , isagoo isla markaana sheegay inayan xubin kormeerida ayan u ogolaan doonin cid walba oo rabta inay wadankooda hooyo kala jaraan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted August 25, 2005 ^^^ lool@Soomaal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haaraahur. Posted August 25, 2005 SOMALIA WAA WADAN KALIYA OO MIDAYSAN BAD IYO BARIBA XUDUUDIISUNA AY QEEXAN TAHAY, SOMALILAND WAA QAYB AAN MARNA KA GO'I KARIN JAMHUURIYADA SOOMAALIYA , JAAMACADA CARABTA XEER HOOSAADKEEDA IYO GOLAYAASHEEDU MA ICTIRAAFI KARAAN MARNABA, MAAMUL ISAGU ISKII ISU MAGACAABAY ISLA MARKAANA SI AAN SHARCI AHYN UDOONAYA INUU KA GO'O WADANKA SOOMAALIYA ,SIDOO KALE XUDUUDAHA UU MAMULKAASI SAMAYSTAY , IYO DHAMAAN MAGACA UU LA BAXAY MARNA MA AHAN KUWA LA TIXGALINAYO WAXAANA AANU NAQAANA SOOMAALIA MIDA, WAANA JAMHURIYADA SOOMAALIYA OO 1973 KU SOO BIIDHAY IYADOO HAL MIDA JAAMACADA CARABTA ". Waa run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camel Mlik Posted August 26, 2005 Somailand's case for recognition needs rethinking. 'A critical analysis' http://www.hiiraan.org/2005/aug/op/Mohamed_A_Omar.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qudhac Posted August 26, 2005 ARAB UNION ^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA A bunch of spineless wetbags who only agree on one thing for the last 30 years is to never agree on anything, ask Gadafi of libia what he thinks of the union, and you will see what an useless waste of space these american poodles are. since when have these so called arab union promised recognition for us and and most importantly who cares what basal breath think anyway, how can an occupied bunch of dictators advance our democracy anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haddad Posted August 27, 2005 Originally posted by Qudhac: ...only agree on one thing for the last 30 years is to never agree on anything I think they have agreed on more than one thing for the last 30 years. Let's see it; they have agreed on helping Somalia when it was at war with Ethiopia. I think, without their help, Somalia might have lost its victories against Ethiopia. ask Gadafi of libia what he thinks of the union, and you will see what an useless waste of space these american poodles are. Well, Gadafi's dress attire, green book (he wrote it in lahja) and manner of talk might be unique, but he's a secular leader, like the rest. There's not much secular leaders can do. since when have these so called arab union promised recognition for us I don't think they promised. I think Somaliland's leaders should concentrate or retry getting recognition from the UN and AU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wacdaraha_aduunka Posted August 27, 2005 Ofcourse they wont recognise Somaliland as a seperate entity from Somalia as the charter of the Arab League as the first artical of the charter says the soverignty of independent arab states should never be comprised therefore concluding that Somaliland would never be recognised by a Arab state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waran Qodal Posted August 27, 2005 Nothing really surprising there. Somaliland has rejected all the requests made by , amongst others , Egypt and Saudi Arabia to take part in the various conferences held in Kenya and Arta . Although one could argue that the Arab League was quick to recognize Eritrea { anything that could weaken Ethiopia is good news for the Egyptians } , I sense allowing the partition of Somalia in two could be a very bad precedent for member countries like Sudan on the verge of fragmentation. Anaga waxani war inoo ma' aha , adhigeeni baynu dirqi kaga iibina ee maxay ina aqoonsan carabi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted August 27, 2005 Recognition by the Arab league is not much recognition. Somalia was part of the Arab league and we all know what good that did for us. In fact, deportations and abuse of Somalis accelerated when the country collapsed. When the rest of the world opened its arms to Somali refugees, the likes of Saudi Arabia were letting overloaded refugee ships sink right on their shores with hundreds dying. Having said that, it is difficult for a new country such as Somaliland to maintain and grow its sovereignty without the recognition and assistance of the world community. However, the Arab league is neither capable of helping Somaliland nor itself. Arabs are at their lowest moment in history at this time. They're under occupation by foreign powers in Iraq and Palestine and by local tyrants in the rest. It does not make me happy in any way but I see their lack of recognition as immaterial and inconsequential for the future of Somaliland. Somaliland's success or failure will not depend on the Arab league. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted August 27, 2005 Originally posted by Qudhac: most importantly who cares what basal breath think anyway, how can an occupied bunch of dictators advance our democracy anyway. Qudhac, that's not necessary dude, come on! The people in Arab countries have no say in what the Arab league does. Don't be a jingoist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fyr Posted August 27, 2005 Originally posted by Fidel: Qudhac , that's not necessary dude, come on! The people in Arab countries have no say in what the Arab league does. Don't be a jingoist. They don’t have any say on anything period! Let alone to talk about some unrecognized african country. Fidel what’s wrong with being a jingoist? Those kind of people assuming Qudhac being one of them are the likes who’ll be first to take arms and defend our country against anyone threatening our freedom. I’m however surprised that you find it to be wrong when you constantly praise Fidel Castro whom himself is an extreme nationalist character. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haddad Posted August 27, 2005 Originally posted by FyrKanten: They don’t have any say on anything period! Let alone to talk about some unrecognized african country. If so, would it make sense Somaliland is still seeking recognition from the Arab League? I think this was ill advised on Somaliland's part, because the Arab League is a regional organization, not a continental one like the AU or international like the UN. This reaction by Somaliland appears like a kid who has been denied an icecream. Somaliland has to understand the Arab League isn't its parent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qudhac Posted August 27, 2005 If so, would it make sense Somaliland is still seeking recognition from the Arab League? I think this was ill advised on Somaliland 's part, because the Arab League is a regional organization, not a continental one like the AU or international like the UN. This reaction by Somaliland appears like a kid who has been denied an icecream. Somaliland has to understand the Arab League isn't its parent. sxb the somaliland government has to approach and make friends with every organization because thats the duty of any government it would be scandelous for them not to make diplomatic contacts with with every organization wether be regional or international. and to be fair to somaliland government and Adna in particuler she has made some headway with individual governments if not the Union, for example Egypt has relaxed its over zealous reaction to Somaliland recognition for the first time in the African union, and have openly stated in are open minded about somaliland for the first time in african union. having said that somaliland know that its diplomatic routes does not have to be through the arabs anyway. with this new wave of african renaisance most african countries are turning back to african routes culture and history and being africans first and foremost thats why they are content doing bussiness with each other withought someone else always supervising them. thats why somalilnads success in terms of recognition lies solely in africa, and that is big favour for somaliland because you would struggle to find any african country who has any reall political opposition to somaliland recognition even if the union is somewhat slow to move from the warped thinking of the 1960s and the ill founded new "freedoms" known as independence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted August 27, 2005 Originally posted by FyrKanten: Fidel what’s wrong with being a jingoist? Those kind of people assuming Qudhac being one of them are the likes who’ll be first to take arms and defend our country against anyone threatening our freedom. I’m however surprised that you find it to be wrong when you constantly praise Fidel Castro whom himself is an extreme nationalist character. Dude, jingoism is paternalistic and racist thinking of those who can't see past their noses. Think of a redneck in the midwest who could never find Eyeraq on a map and yet constantly calls the people morons and wants them bombed. That's a jingoist. I'm pretty sure Qudhac is not like that. Or at least I hope not. As for Fidel Castro, come on, the man is far from a jingoist, FyrKanten. He's been fighting the evil empire for nearly sixty years and trying to unite Latin America all that time. He even fought the Portuguese colonizers in Uganda. He's mildly a nationalist, which is good, but definitely not a jingoist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites