Mintid Farayar Posted August 16, 2008 I disagree with you, my friend, that the budgetary issues of Puntland are a recent phenomena. From its inception, Puntland has had severe financial stress in comparison to either a Mogadishu-based gov't (if the warlords ever pooled their resource base) or the neighboring Somaliland which pays on time for over a decade. To further illustrate this point, I've listed some news items of the past from local Somali media (some are from non-Puntland sources and some are from Puntland local media). Nonetheless, thank you for keeping the exchange interesting and enjoyable. -------- Somalia: Forces deployed in disputed region between Puntland, Somaliland 228 words 31 December 2004 04:40 AM English © 2004 The British Broadcasting Corporation. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation. Text of report by Somali Radio HornAfrik on 31 December Forces with battlewagons loyal to the semi-autonomous region of Puntland regional autonomous have since yesterday been deployed at the disputed area of Ari Adeye in Sool Region. In addition, some other reports from Puntland say that some Puntland mutineers have seized the parliament and conference hall in Garowe the capital of Puntland. For more details here is our reporter Nuh Muse Birjeb. [Reporter] Residents of Laas-Canood town in Sool Region fear there may be more fighting between Somaliland and Puntland at the disputed area of Ari Adeye. Last night many forces loyal to Puntland, armed with battlewagons, were seen moving from Laas-Canood to Ari Adeye village. People say that the movement of Puntland forces is in likely preparation of fighting against Somaliland. HornAfrik has tried to contact the Puntland military commander in vain. Others believe that the deployment of these forces at Ari Adeye was caused by unconfirmed reports that Puntland forces at Ari Adeye had threatened to withdraw from the area if they were not paid their outstanding eight month salaries. Also there are some other people in Puntland who think that the deployment was caused by political disputes related to elections in Puntland. Source: Radio HornAfrik, Mogadishu, in Somali 0500 gmt 31 Dec 04 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guards seize Somalia's Boosaaso airport over pay dispute 162 words 14 September 2004 07:50 AM English © 2004 The British Broadcasting Corporation [date of publication]. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation. Excerpt from report by Somali Puntland-based Radio Midnimo on 14 September The armed guards that protect Puntland's coast and who work for the Somcan company based outside Boosaaso, near the airport, today halted operations at the airport. The guards said the reason for seizing the airport is because they had not been receiving their salaries for several months. The guards have blocked all roads leading to the airport and have agreed to hold talks with the Bari Region Governor Yusuf Muhammad. There are no reports on the outcome of the talks being held at airport. Flights that were expected in Boosaaso, especially miraa [qat] flights, had to be rescheduled. This is not the first time that troops have seized the strategic area claiming to have done that because of lack of payment of salaries and bad working conditions. [Passage omitted] Source: Radio Midnimo, Boosaaso, in Somali 1030 gmt 14 Sep 04 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Puntland leader Yusuf reportedly blamed by supporters for problems. 193 words 24 April 2002 04:56 AM English © 2002 The British Broadcasting Corporation [date of publication]. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation.Excerpt from report by Somali anti-Abdullahi Yusuf Puntland web site Realpuntlander.com (www.Realpuntlander.com) on 24 April Col Abdullahi Yusuf [former undisputed Puntland leader] has held talks with some of his supporters at his Garoowe residence. The supporters informed Col Yusuf about the hatred people of Puntland have developed for him as well as the troubles he caused in Garoowe town. Col Yusuf's supporters finally told him that they could no longer tolerate him, if he does not stop creating problems for them. Col Yusuf, on his part, responding to his supporters, said he would move out of Garoowe and requested his supporters to be patient. Col Yusuf's supporters showed great concern over their leader's final fate, blaming the whole situation on bad advice and poor training apparent amongst Col Yusuf's forces. On the other hand, Col Yusuf, whose militiamen have not received their salaries for several months, told them that ultimately he had nothing to pay them, a matter which has affected the morale of his forces... Source: realPuntlander.com web site in Somali 24 Apr 02. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Puntland MPs accuse regional leader of failing to deliver services. 151 words 13 April 2002 01:17 PM English © 2002 The British Broadcasting Corporation [date of publication]. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation.Excerpt from report by Somali newspaper Xog-Ogaal on 13 April A big rift has emerged between the [boosaaso-based Puntland leader] Jama Ali Jama's administration and the regional parliament over stalled development in the region. Twenty MPs, who yesterday blamed the Jama administration in a written statement, said the administration had failed to bring together various parts of the region. The statement also accused the administration of neglecting government institutions such as the police, the special forces, justice and other institutions, saying the welfare and salaries of the institutions were never taken into consideration. Abdiqadir Abdi Da'ad, one of the MPs, speaking to Radio Midnimo in Boosaaso, said Mr Jama's administration is unable to deliver the required services, adding that the administration is being run by irresponsible people. Source: Xog-Ogaal, Mogadishu, in Somali 13 Apr 02. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Puntland courts reportedly closed for lack of finance. 117 words 24 March 2002 02:35 AM English © 2002 The British Broadcasting Corporation [date of publication]. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation.Excerpt from report by Somali pro-Puntland web site AllPuntland.com on 23 March The acting chairman of Puntland's High Court has said the Court of First Instance and the Court of Appeal have been closed down. He said the courts have been closed down due to lack of funds to pay the salaries of staff and to run the courts since [boosaaso-based Puntland leader] Col Jama Ali Jama assumed office. Mr Jama Ali Jama criticized the courts for taking such a decision, saying it would sabotage law enforcement. He said the courts to enforce the laws... Source: AllPuntland.com web site in Somali 23 Mar 02. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Former Puntland leader's militiamen paid salaries. 97 words 30 December 2001 04:04 AM English © 2001 The British Broadcasting Corporation [date of publication]. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation.Excerpt from report by Somali newspaper Mogadishu Times on 30 December Reports from Garoowe [Puntland] say Col Abdullahi Yusuf [former Puntland president] yesterday started giving salaries to the special forces and police forces in Gaalkacyo, Garoowe and other places in the region. It was not clear whether Col Abdullahi Yusuf will also give salaries to his MPs and former cabinet members. The reports say Col Abdullahi Yusuf has indicated that salaries would be extended to all members of Puntland police force... Source: Mogadishu Times, Mogadishu, in Somali 30 Dec 01. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Puntland police still occupying bank in Garoowe. 92 words 8 November 2001 01:22 PM English © 2001 The British Broadcasting Corporation [date of publication]. All Rights Reserved. No material may be reproduced except with the express permission of The British Broadcasting Corporation.Text of report by Somali HornAfrik Online text web site o n 8 November Reports from Garoowe [in northeastern Somalia, Puntland administrative HQ] say the special police force from the 54th Unit is still [forcibly] occupying the venue of the clan leaders conference. The police force has also occupied Garoowe's bank, and is reported to be protesting over unpaid salaries. However, other reports say the action by the force is related to politics. Source: HornAfrik Online text web site, Mogadishu, in Somali 8 Nov 01. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiqikhayre Posted August 16, 2008 So was Puntland's interception in 2001 as you "claim" that from its interception salaries have not been paid. Yes it is true that sometimes salaries have not been paid as you stated to civil section workers, police, the army and other state workers but you have to ask yourself that Puntland unlike the Mogadishu or Somaliland you mentioned, they have been energetic labourers who strived for the revitalisation of the Somali state under one union and federal leadership and that my friend as been achieved to a certan extent. Whilst Mogadishu warlords were busy looting, the secessionsts were focusing on their internal affairs but Puntland has far more income and resources then any other entity in Somalia but because Puntland is the birth mother of the Federal Institutions resources that were needed were diverted to other and far better pan-somali causes. If this burden was put on others they would simply collaps but not Puntland my friend. Our resources went into helping others and less well off Somalis in other regions who were either mistreated or occupied by merciless anarchists. We helped liberate many Somalis who we aided to escape the worst form of mistreatment and their emanicipation is ours appreactiaon and for that Puntland has to be greatly thanked. 1998-2001 was the golden age of our State and after the Arta no-goverment was formed, who tried to disintegrate Puntland and on the other hand the seccessionsts misguided claims and attacks on our people and lands plus the search for a united Somalia under the federal system resulted in the states non-payment of salaries because it is our duty to help Somalia get up/off their feet as no one else is capable or not capable and willing to do that. Puntland pioneer of the federal Somalia and the most successful and sane political achievers of Somalia may God help us achieve our short-term and long-term goals. Amen In god and none else we trust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saqajaan Posted August 16, 2008 Cadde muse the capitalist? this tuug has been stealing from the region, does not pay he's ragtag militias, prints fake money directly causing inflation and suffering of the people and get's money and support from the pirates that roam the area. Who are you trying to sell this nonsense to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dhulQarnayn Posted August 16, 2008 Saqajaanyahow, don't turn this thread into a CADE bashing nac-nac! President Cade, for better or worse is our President...and when his term is up...the citizens of Puntland will deal with him. So butt out of affairs that aint non of your business saaxiib. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koora-Tuunshe Posted August 17, 2008 Originally posted by General Duke: Bossaso port Thanks Duke for the Pics. Puntland, Somalia started everything from Scratch and look where it is indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites