Tan meesha iigu sii dheji

[xiinfaniin]

...waan usoo noqone

 

Let me first say that this latest Ethiopian incursion in Beledweyne is unwelcome development. It’s politically negative for Sharif, militarily ineffective to defeat alshabaab as it has been seen before, and if anything it helps fuel the negative propaganda that is being waged against the besieged TFG. It confuses the issues that are the heart of Somali conflict. The primary reason Somalia is unstable is because Somalis are fighting each other to attain power and political dominance. It’s not because of Ethiopian, or other’s occupation of Somali soil that caused the 20-year civil war. It feeds alshabaabs regular propaganda and misinformation.

 

This incursion is not however that different in spirit than the one occurred in Gedo few months back or the back and forth invasions in central regions. Perhaps the scale is different. Generally speaking Ethiopian incursions in border towns have been reoccurring episodes for the last 15 years. It cannot be reasonably equated to the full-fledged Ethiopian invasion of the major cities in south/central Somalia, including the capital of the nation that we have witnessed in 2006. TFG leadership shall not and will not allow the repeat of such day of infamy again. For those who allowed such grand scale invasion of Somali soil by Ethiopian forces have paid for their political blunders dearly. It will not happen in shaa Allah for there is no conceivable reason to resort such defeating tactic for the TFG when the world is training Somali army and when it is getting supplies of military hardware. However, if this TFG invites Ethiopian troops to invade Somalia in the scale previous TFG blessed, it shall be up to Somalis to defend their honor, and this TFG shall be disowned. Even in such unlikely scenario alshabaab shall not be afforded any leadership to resist a foreign invasion wherever it comes from. They must not be trusted with that task again for we have seen what they have done with the little leadership they had or still have.

 

It’s expected that alshabaab propagandists will try their best to capitalize on the Beledweyne episode for they know that is the only card left in their hands. Their strategy has been to draw Ethiopia in so they (alshabaab) can continue opposing any efforts to revive Somali state. It’s a deliberate strategy to keep Somalia in this cycle of violence until they get their way. So it does not surprise me to hear them plea for Soamaalinimo, Islaanimo, and solidarity to form a unified front against invading forces. And that is part of their propaganda. It’s part of their strategy.

 

2009 is not 2006.

 

We have seen what cheap slogans do to a promising movement. We have seen what alshabaab bravado means and the consequence it exacts on the needy. Lets be wise. A wise Muslim should not be cheated twice, as the prophet (scw) said.

 

Ramadaan Kariim to all. Haddii alle na gaarsiiyyo waa inoo after ciid

 

Maneenada ha la yareeyyo Ramadaanka

[Taleexi]

Hadal gar ah. Amxaaro yaan lagu af gobaadsan. Xamar ma amxaaraa maanta inagu laynaysa.... Siday doonto dacarta ha uga qadhaadhaato, Waa inaynu guuldarrada aan gacmaheena ku falkinay ogolaanaa, isfahamka iyo xalka guuldarrooyinka guunka inagu dhex noqdayna inuu gondeheena ku jiro waa mid marag ma doonto ah.... Haddii kale ilaa iyo qiyaamaha Itoobiyaa na qabsanaysa iyo catarabaqah kale ku digriya..Geedku markuu hadlay wuxuu yidhi.."Haddaan gudinka badhkay ku jirin ima goyseen". Ramadaan Kareem

[Che -Guevara]

^Ramadaan Kariim

[Gabbal]

This is like saying eat from my plate but do not overreach lest it becomes too obvious. It reeks of stinking hypocrisy and caliber of dishonesty that is beyond arrogant.

 

Really this is a disappointment. Has your apologism gone so far as to imply there exists cities more Somali than Beled-Weyne? What you are saying is because Beled-Weyne city is geographically closer to the border than would be a tiny village near the coast, the Ethiopian incursion in Beled-weyne city should then not be taken as a blemish on the Sharif government (which by the way has not condemned the incursion) as it would if the target had been the village more to the interior?

 

I have two things for you adeer;

 

1.) The foundation of the Djibouti peace process which enthroned and legitimized Shiekh Sharif and his national unity government was the complete withdrawal of Ethiopian forces from sovereign Somalia. It was not withdrawal from Mogadishu. It was the withdrawal from the contiguous territory recognized as the sovereign soil of the Somali Republic. Sheikh Sharif and his ARS-Djibouti did not agree to and was not legitimized by dishonest language, interpretation, or excuse for the Ethiopian invasion forces which would include (as you have arrogantly come with) a concept of Ethiopian-free and Ethiopian-trespass zones in the territory known as the sovereign and independent Republic of Somalia.

 

2.) Ethiopia itself has outlined the agreement that led to its withdrawal. This is not the first time Al Shabaab has been active in Beled-Weyne environs or the Hiiraan region. As we all remember, shortly ago, the speaker of the parliament Madoobe sent out a plea for neighboring state interference within a 24 hour period to stave off, what he called, an "eminent danger to the existence of the TFG". Both the Ethiopian prime and foreign ministers, Zenewi and Mesfin, responded separately to the international press with the same message, that it is not Ethiopia's responsibility to protect the TFG or influence the political leadership of Somalia but rather to protect its own sovereignty and territory only if and when attacked by any entity in Somalia.

 

Who attacked Ethiopia? What legitimacy does Ethiopia have for the incursion into Somalia and why is the Sharif government and Sharif himself silent on the issue? Is this not silent support, i.e. capitulation?

 

You cannot compare this to the brief and disastrous incursion of theirs' in the Gedo region shortly ago. The Sharif government was not in power and the Djibouti process was not implemented. The situation today is markedly different.

 

Anigu waxaan maqli jiray, waalida kolkay madax siibanayso saansaan bay leedahay. Mar waxaad eegi qofkiyoo shaar la'aan ah, mar kabtiiyoo la xooray, sidaa bay kusii socon ilaa iyo heer cawradu banaantahay. Waxii un baa meesha ka socoto, waad lalmaysaa Xiinoow anigu sidaan u jeedo.

[The Zack]

Originally posted by Mansa Munsa:

Hadal gar ah. Amxaaro yaan lagu af gobaadsan. Xamar ma amxaaraa maanta inagu laynaysa.... Siday doonto dacarta ha uga qadhaadhaato, Waa inaynu guuldarrada aan gacmaheena ku falkinay ogolaanaa, isfahamka iyo xalka guuldarrooyinka guunka inagu dhex noqdayna inuu gondeheena ku jiro waa mid marag ma doonto ah.... Haddii kale ilaa iyo qiyaamaha Itoobiyaa na qabsanaysa iyo catarabaqah kale ku digriya..Geedku markuu hadlay wuxuu yidhi.."Haddaan gudinka badhkay ku jirin ima goyseen". Ramadaan Kareem

I couldn't agree with you more, Amxaaro is back because these Al-xayawaaniin keep fighting for no reason. Let them be back because that is the only language Al-shabaab understands.

[rudy-Diiriye]

This topic should have been!!

tani waa meesha ka firdo tfgyeeye!

 

Xin use to a good homie, but i just dont get why he replaced duky and become tfg # cheerleader. nowadays, poor duky is left to defend yeeye, a guy even his body parts are trying to dessert him! lool. thats a loosey job.

 

This month belongs to no one but the believers! and not azz kissers like tfg! So, its azzshabaad all the way. History will tell us all. However, via history, we know that azz kissers dont last long. A puppet supported by a foreigner can never stand alone and lead his country. Puppets fold when their masters quit. This will be the end of tfg 2.

 

Ethios have learn their lesson in xamar. thats way they do criminal invasions in mid somalia these days. they have learned their lesson for sure.

 

I predict somali will be free of this shyte in about year. And it will be a beautiful muslim country, Allah willingly.

[wacdaraha_aduunka]

Alah maxaa meesha ceeb ka dilaacay ma waxaad maanta keenteen hadii ey ethiopians gaaren Beled Weyn atleast there not killing us in Muqdishu yaa Mansa.. OO xiin ma sidaa bey ka cadahay in aad tirahdifd little incursions here and there are alright but the previous TFG decision which u called a full invasion wouldnt be acceptable but would be disowned by the somali people. I take note of the little clause of yours ending with that Shabaab couldnt be allowed to take over the country even if Sharif allows the ethiopians to enter the crown-jewel of Muqdishu and gets disowned by the fake religious and clan supporters of Shariif Sakiin.

 

 

And finally Zack bal labo meel inoo cadee ileen sheekada weynu wada garaneynaa.

 

1. So Al-xaywaanin is fighting for no reason and dats the reason why amxaaro should be bck huh? Oo shaley miyey reason hayeen ama when Sharif supporters had their man in position did the Al-xaywaanins cause become void of a reason

 

2. The only languagage they understand is Axmaaro (I take it that your inclining on the use of force by the Ethiopian Army as they're doing it right now in beled-weyne) you say but like many of you used to trumpet human rights card when these so called Al-Xaywanin used to shell in residential areas and used to support

religiously a man who used to tell the Mogadishu residents to 'adkeeysta ilaa aan 'cadowga' i.e Ethiopian Army ka saareyno wadanka and maanta maxaaro waad fasaxi lahayd cajiib.

 

 

Ala maxaa ceeb ku jaban ragaan awal bey somaalidu tidhi Kadaroo dibi dhal maanta xaalada reer supporters of Shariif Sakiin waxaad dhasheen oo aad rabteen waa kaa ee bal sidaa ha idinku ahaato

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Horta emotionalism yee na qaadin. Let us separate facts from fiction.

 

Fact I: Xabashi army do cross that phantom 'border' whenever they decide, whether a man called Shariif is in Filla Soomaaliya or a man called Xuseen Caydiid claims that place. Xabashi violated, violates and still continuously is violating xuduud ku sheega since mid '90s.

 

It is the result of our disunity. We don't have to blame Xabashis. Dad Soomaaliya iyo Soomaali meel ka gaari la' oo xaasidnimo ku darsaday ayaa nagu dhex jiro, oo magaca Soomaaliyeed rabana jaraanjar in meel lagu gaaro inay u noqoto, haddee socon weysana wax walba qash qashaad banad ah. Ciyaalnimo mentality. Dad saas ah ayaa magaca Soomaali nala share gareeyo, qaarkood this very Xabashi keeno dalkeena, una horseedo.

 

Fact II: Xabashi army does not care who claims to be a Soomaali president when they are crossing that xuduud ku sheeg. Their incursions occasionally go any of these following degmooyin that shares border with or close to Soomaali Galbeed: Luuq/Dooloow (Gedo), Yeed/Ceelbarde (Bakool), Feerfeer/Kalabeyr (Hiiraan), Balanbale (Galgaduud), Goldogob (Mudug) iyo Buuhoodle (Togdheer).

 

These degmooyin, in fact, are a de facto Xabashi territory, a part of an extended Soomaali Galbeed.

 

These latest Xabashi incursion is just like what they used to do, regardless if Shariifka protests or not. He is powerless to do anything, as powerless as kan sheegto inuu ka arrimiyo Waqooyi Galbeed ama kan kale equally sheegto in uu ka arrimiyo Waqooyi Bari when Xabashi army crosses from Soomaali Galbeed and into Buuhoodle. Neither the leaders of Waqooyi Galbeed and Waqooyi Bari raise hal far. Cabsi baa saas u geysatay. But iyaga ciidamadooda markee midkood tagaan that degmo, all is lost. Qeylo dhaan iyo balaayo yeereyso. But all is mum when it is Xabashis. This is how badly low our disunity descended to and have reached.

 

And it says more about, again, our disunity iyo qabyaalad sun ka buuxdo dad maskaxda iyo maanka ka gishay.

 

Having written this, the difference between the latest incursions and the infamous one of 2006 was clear: A so-called Soomaali 'president' called for them, led them to Xamar, xudunta Soomaaliya, while boarding and in a Xabashi military helicopter. Lived in Xamar, protected by those Xabashis. That was unforgettable and ill-famed, an offense to any Soomaali dalkiisa jecel's conscience. That was too painful to witness.

[wacdaraha_aduunka]

Miskiin Xuduud ku sheega aad ka hadleysid baaba cajaa'ib ah. So you dont recognise the borders of the Somali Republic, war ileen wax nala tus oo hadana noo laaban. Oo marku shariifku iibinayey baddu waad ku raacsaneyd laakin adigu waadba kaga dari lahayd oo all the border town baad bixin lahays. If this is in the hope creating a somali-weyn then your not inducing much hope to folks in Somali-galbeed nor NFD as they see your prepared to put into question all the boder-town somalia has with ethiopia forget about inta maqan. And they see too that you wouldnt care if Shariif unleashed ethiopians who where untouchable's a year ago as long as it doesnt happen Muqdishu to secure your position in Somalia's politics.

 

And you talk about dad magac somali kula share garanaayo cajaa'ib but all the qash qashaadnimo iyo xasiidnimo you say stems from a deep-rooted feeling among all shariif supporters that they fought to get rid off Abdullahi Yusuf including the killing of thousands but employ still the same positions and tactics that they deemed unholy moments ago. For some it was clan support but for you miskiin and others its was hate for a shaqsi that people had to die.

 

And now you call all of us who dont support this president of being xaasid for not letting you govern or something you cant utter but i will on your behalf of telling all those yusuf supporters to forget everything that happened and rally behind this government and to tha i reply sxb, once you loose your principles then any of your convictions in life are useless sxb so if thousands had to die to get this man in Villa Somalia and be no different then what he preached then for no qabiil and for no money would i suport that man.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Wacdaraha, duqa, xuduud ku sheeg ayaan leeyahay because ma aqoonsani inuu xadka Soomaaliya ku dhamaado meesha Soomaali Galbeed ka bilaawato. Soomaaliweyn ayaan aaminsanahay, marka xadkeyga waa Xarar iyo agagaarkaas.

 

And Shariif is different from kii ka horeeye. Xabashi uma wacan, kii ka horeeye did. He is not protected by Xabashi in Xamar. Kii ka horeeye was.

 

Haddee Xabashi kasoo tilaabsadaan xuduudkaas awalba beenaadka ahaa as they continuously violated since mid '90s, he has no power to speak dalka ku difaaco, plus kuwa cadowgiisa kasoo horjeedo his dowlad maalin walba daan daansado Xabashada, markee soo galaana ka cararo fuleynimo daraadeed.

[wacdaraha_aduunka]

Intaan sxb hadeey ka cadahay inagaba xidh sheekadaan duxba laga heeli maayo

[Coloow]

Xiin Faniin is munaafiq nummer uno. I don't see much difference between Cabdillahi Yusuf and Sheikh Sharif when it comes to Ethiopia.

 

Xiin's caravan of nonsense is bent on enslaving the southerners. To Xiin and many other on SOL, the southern people deserve what they are getting.

 

Xiin, come clean and admit that you hate the southern people of somalia. You want them to be enganged in endless wars.

 

I don't understand how a somali in his own mind will defend a government that bombs its own people. You are either a tribalist hating southerners or you are a naive fadhi-ku-dirir looking for praises.

 

Either case, spare us your nonsense about Sheikh Shariif's government. It is a warlord government led by an illitrate tribalist, sheikh shariif

[Taleexi]

War Wacdaraha_aduunka inuu na denbaajiyo oo soonkayaga khalkhal geliyo baan ka baqayaa.

[Taleexi]

Originally posted by [Waranle]:

Xiin Faniin is munaafiq nummer uno. I don't see much difference between Cabdillahi Yusuf and Sheikh Sharif when it comes to Ethiopia.

 

Xiin's caravan of nonsense is bent on enslaving the southerners. To Xiin and many other on SOL, the southern people deserve what they are getting.

 

Xiin, come clean and admit that you hate the southern people of somalia. You want them to be enganged in endless wars.

 

I don't understand how a somali in his own mind will defend a government that bombs its own people. You are either a tribalist hating southerners or you are a naive fadhi-ku-dirir looking for praises.

 

Either case, spare us your nonsense about Sheikh Shariif's government. It is a warlord government led by an illitrate tribalist, sheikh shariif

Waranle, who would you suggest to rule Somalia?, someone from the heaven or someone among us, Mogadishu said to NO every Somali ever elected from the last 20 years, no matter which clan he hails from, doesn't that make you wonder?... Give Sh. Sharif a chance, he only has one more year to go.

[wacdaraha_aduunka]

Oo Mansa waxaa aan soonka aan ku khal-hal gelinayo maxey tahay? Horta ma wax yaabaha soonka jabiya ma garaneysa? Mise cay iyo anshax-xumi baad la shir tagi lahayd Cajaa'ib, koleyba hadeysanbil ramaadan eysan kaaga banaaneyn dee markaana bill caadi'ba ma wanaagsana.