Mogadishu on the brink of guerrilla war

[Castro]

Bogus claim:

 

Originally posted by General Duke:

There is enough evidance that certain dupious business groups were behidn this demo. To coincide with the forcefull arms removal date. Thus the protest was about keeping the clan guns and nothing else.

Challenge of bogus claim:

 

Originally posted by mystic:

You allegations are unsubstantiated, what prove do you have that the businessmen are behind this protest.

Response to challenge of bogus claim:

 

Originally posted by General Duke:

^^^Mystic here is the basic problem with you. Your first mistake is to call H.E Abdullahi Yusuf a warlord,.....

 

Yuusf was decorated war hero, who fought for Somalia in both 1964 & 1977-78 wars, a factional leader of the SSDF, like Tuur & Silanyo where the SNM.

[General Duke]

^^^Its amusing when the ignorants fear the trusth, hate facts and hide behind what they are told by laymen.

 

Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, a major figure in modern Somali history

 

 

1960-1978 A Somali Sodlier, rank Colonel who fought and led armies in two major wars for the republic 1964, 1978. Sting in prison for his political views.

 

1978-1984 .Founded a rebel movement, SSDF, which was copied by many other groups, SNM, USC against the regime.

 

1984-1991. Placed in prison for lack of cooperation by the Derg regime of Ethiopia.

 

1991-1998 Millitary leader of the SSDF, under Mohamed Abshir Muse chairman ship. Fought against Aydeed in Galkacyu as well as Al-Itixad in Nugaal-Bari regions.

 

1998-2004. Firts President of Puntland 1/3 of Somalia. Within this period overcame attempt to fragment the state by outside.

 

2004-present Eleceted President of the TFG which now controls all the country except the clan traingle of Burco-Hargaysa-Berbera.

[Castro]

^ Warlord worship. Perhaps you should change your signature.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Any one who founded a rebelling movement is a terrorist/Warlord. : D

 

He was the one who started all the chaos. I am not depending on him to fix it.

[General Duke]

^^^Wish Riyaale was more than a Qad merchant, turned NSS bully, do we now?

 

Saxib, I know its been a tough couple of weeks for you. You are afraid. Get that out of your system, fear has led you to hate...

 

"Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering."

Yoda

[General Duke]

Mystic, there you go again, go back and hit the books. You know very little about Somali hstory.

[Faarax-Brawn]

who fought for Somalia in both 1964 & 1977-78 wars

Would you please tell our readers what wars these were? Which nation was fighting which nation? Also,Tell us why YUSSUF was fighting that war.

 

Thank you

[Wisdom_Seeker]

The timeline of Warlord Abdullahi Yusuf you have sketched out doesn’t refute the fact that Abdullahi Yusuf is a warlord.

 

History has approved the reality that Mr. Abdullahi Yusuf, the man who refers to himself as the cursed one as a Warlord and a traitor.

 

It seems like the Ethiopians have taught him an everlasting lesson while he was in their prison. He is undeniably a traitor. Nothing you say will change that.

[General Duke]

^^^1964 war was a border between Somalia and Imperial Ethiopia under Haile Salassie.

Yusuf was given a medal of honour by then President. H.E Adan Abullahi Osman

 

1977-1978 was a bigger war fought between Somalia then under President General Siyad Barre and The Derg Communist regime of Ethiopia led by dictator Menghestu Haile Mariam. Yusuf led troops deep into Ethiopia and was in the front lines of that war.

 

These two wars where the last to be fought by Somalias national army.

[Fiqikhayre]

Yes, that's very easy question! He fought against the dirty Ahmara, who were hell-bent in destroying the nation of Somalia!

 

But today the Ahmara have been marginalised by themselves by their opponents the Tigrey.

 

You might not know this but Meles was/is a Somali national. He lived in Somalia for quite a substanital years. He was also educated in our highest institution of learning, the Lafoole University!

 

He speaks Somali and does not have a grudge against the Somalis, because his gratitudes are to the Somali people, who enabled him and his people, to come to power after defeating the Ahmara, who thought they were god's representatives of the horn and that only them had the right to rule the country!

[General Duke]

History has approved the reality that Mr. Abdullahi Yusuf, the man who refers to himself as the cursed one as a Warlord and a traitor.

 

Now you are putting words in his mouth? Yusuf is man full of confidance who belives in himself. He never profited from war, never put a roadblock in lace, never colonised regions or taken over ports and airports for his sub-clan use. He is a man who hates anarchy, and has made Puntland one of the safest in the region let alone Somalia..

 

He has never been a warlord, never fought in the wars of the south, unlike warlords like Xasan Dahir, Indacade, Qqaynyare, Sudi. he fought for his cuntry before becoming disullusioned.

 

PS: The dictator who put him behind bars is now in exile in Zzambia, it was the rebels that released him in 1991. Thus the relationship.

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by General Duke:

^^^1964 war was a border between Somalia and Imperial Ethiopia under Haile Salassie.

Yusuf was given a medal of honour by then President. H.E Adan Abullahi Osman

 

1977-1978 was a bigger war fought between Somalia then under President General Siyad Barre and The Derg Communist regime of Ethiopia led by dictator Menghestu Haile Mariam. Yusuf led troops deep into Ethiopia and was in the front lines of that war.

 

These two wars where the last to be fought by Somalias national army.

Thank you sir. Just wanted for you to clarify that to our readers. One more thing sir,adoo raali ah; why was that war[77'] fought again?[you seemed to have missed that part].

[Castro]

Brown and Mystic, two questions for you:

 

1) What do you call someone who "fought" against an enemy nation twice and now rides on the back of their invading tanks and fights his own people?

 

2) Which is more accurate a label: the clan courts on the ICU or the transitional puppet government on the TFG?

 

Originally posted by General Duke:

^^^Wish Riyaale was more than a Qad merchant, turned NSS bully, do we now?

Poor Duke. You've never heard me praise that man nor do I have a tattoo of him on my shoulder blade like you do of Yeey. Riyaale has more in common with warlord Yeey of this puppet regime than you'd ever admit. Ayaan daro, indeed.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Duke

 

What are you his idolizer?

 

You speak as if the man is sinless and a decent leader. He has brought more trouble to the Somalia region, yes he was one of the first Somalis to bring Ethiopian troops to Puntland as well, but now he has managed to spread his misfortune and bring Ethiopian troops to the Somalia region in large.

 

The man started the first rebellious movement that speaks volume. He controlled Puntland and captured it with an iron fist that again speaks volume! He is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Somalis. He is no different than Aideed, Muuse Suudi, and those lowlifes who are downright traitors. Sorry for the bad news, but the old man doesn’t have a good credit, not even among his own kinsmen.

 

The only reason you support the TFG is because of Warlord Abdullahi Yusuf, you don’t seem to care much about the other members of the TFG. Tribal interest is what you are aiming to achieve, while you are making yourself look like a complete loony.

 

Spare us your lack of knowledge and blindness.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

"it was the rebels that released Yeey in 1991. Thus the relationship."

 

Duke, saxib even if the rebels (Tigre) released him, are you informing us Yeey doesn't quite comprehend today Ethiopia's long-held aspirations towards the land of the warring nomads??