Somali 4.5 system...

[cabdi-casse]

Everything you hear regarding somali politics is this "4.5" system. It is a make up of the four major clans of somalia with a mix of smaller clans to make up the "fifth" or 1/2 clan. So why does this not work when every clan has an equal number of seats in parliament?

In my opinion this cannot work because eath clan thinks of ways to trick the other into getting less seats. Instead of a 4.5, why not a 5.5 system seeing as one of the major clans are joined with smaller clans to make up 1. If you want to make everyone happy then each clan has to be seperate which might then make it a 5.5 system or 6.5 system or even more.

How do you guys on SOL think that this system can work.

[dhulQarnayn]

The so-called 4.5 system is monstrously unjust and socially harmful to all Somalis. And any government which uses it for a foundation will eventually crumble. For a Somali government to succeed, ALL MPs must be elected through a fair election; directly by the people. Only character and merit should be the determining factors for leadership roles.Period!

 

dhulQarnayn :cool:

Republic Of California

[NGONGE]

^^ When did you turn into a dreamer, DQ?

As for 4.5, it can be 4-4-2 or attacking wingbacks for all it's worth. As long as ALL clans are represented, saaxib. Any other dreamy solution, whilst correct and just, is really not going to work.

[dhulQarnayn]

^^^Ngonge, that would have been alright if every single clan was one united monolitic entity--but they are not! each clan is made up of competing sub-clans; and each sub-clan further breaks up into rival sub-sub clans and so forth, with no end in sight. That's why I believe Somali tribalism in politics, which is very devisive by nature, will never, ever, be productive.

 

dhulQarnayn :cool:

Republic Of Californi

[NGONGE]

^^ Yet that is what makes it imperative that only clan politics be adopted as the solution for Somali woes. There really is no other way, saaxib.

[NinBrown]

NG: I prefer the 4-5-1 as its more cautious. more defensive as it seems Somalia is getting attacked from within(midfield) at the moment. When we stop conceding too many own goal, then we can talk about wing backs.........thats a typical Scolari rant

[Malika]

NG,for now, but perhaps once the dust has settled and every one feels justly treated we can start moving toward perhaps to more advance governing system.

 

Perhaps,geel jire laws will always be appealing to Somalis even in the 21 century.

[dhulQarnayn]

^^^

To Ngonge & others:

 

I disagree! Provincialism would be way better than clan politics. For instance, since I'm from Mudug, Somalia--I believe, it would be way more prudent for me to elect and send MPs, as a reer mudug, instead of as members of a particular clan. I believe my interests, are more closely intune with my fellow reer mudug(regardless of clan affliation), than say, a fellow D-block member from anywhere else in Somalia.

 

dhulQarnayn :cool:

Republic Of California

[Abwaan]

This 4.5 formula seems to be a pandemic disease in Somali Politics...Are we going to select the Imams for mosques through 4.5 as well.......? What a Joke......! Plus how could we say another human being, Somali, Muslim like me, you, him and her is HALF?

 

I wouldn't mind having triplets who can lead for the three top jobs in the country in order to lead us than a so-called odayaal who only care about money and Qabyaalad selecting corrupted guys...

[Abwaan]

Originally posted by Malika:

NG,for now, but perhaps once the dust has settled and every one feels justly treated we can start moving toward perhaps to more advance governing system.

 

Malika, the same thing was said in 2000 when this thing created by Ethiopia came and it is 2009 and it has created more problems.

[NGONGE]

Originally posted by dhulQarnayn:

^^^

To Ngonge & others:

 

I disagree! Provincialism would be way better than clan politics. For instance, since I'm from Mudug, Somalia--I believe, it would be way more prudent for me to elect and send MPs, as a reer mudug, instead of as members of a particular clan. I believe my interests, are more closely intune with my fellow reer mudug(regardless of clan affliation), than say, a fellow D-block member from anywhere else in Somalia.

 

dhulQarnayn :cool:

Republic Of California

You didn't think this one through, did you boss?

 

Don't let Duke see you saying that. Puntland is ONE.

[Abdinasir Kadawo]

I more for the 4-3-3. If now we gonna get beaten, we can at least be proud and hold our heads high for going attack and play attractive game.

 

The tricky qouestion is; if each of the "4" gets two players each and the "1/2" gets one player, that makes up nine players. Who gets the remaining two? Tricky!