General Duke Posted August 25, 2006 An all out war is on the horizon, Puntland and the clan courts are left to battle for what remains of Southern Somalia.. Puntland troops are in Lower Mudug, Bay and Bakool.. Courts control Lower Shabbele and much of the south. It will be a war, between two clans, between two institutions, TFG and Courts.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted August 25, 2006 Smith....You equate TFG with a particular clan...lool He is your adeer...I guess all ready. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted August 25, 2006 ^ LOL. It's a no contest. Banaadir wins hands down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted August 25, 2006 * And i was told that Banadir was Mid and lower shabelle plus Mogadishu. Nevertheless, it has become little more than a perfunctory mantra to push the puntland ethnical border all the way south to the vicinity of Jowhar. One of Il Generale's rare political meshs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted August 25, 2006 If the courts wanted to invade both Puntland and the TFG, they would have done it along long time ago. The courts are doing every bit to avoid bloodshed(civil war) in which innocent people will be caught in the crossfire. Another point that I would like to make is that, the courts are not based on clan as some suggested them to be.The leaders might predominatly be associated with one clan due to the nature of the region it's based,but that doesn't mean they are all from particular clan. It's fact that big percentage of the fighters are from Somaliland,Puntland, WEstern Somali regions (zone five), NFD, Jabuti etc. So, if we were to come out of our imagination box and came in terms with reality, we would realize that there is no force anywhere in the somali peninsula that could contest and compete with the forces of the courts, they will simply crash any apposing militia if they choose to, but that doesn't seem to be the case since the courts have no reason to disrupt the peace and stability in Puntland. So the TFG and Cadde Muse are being coward and calling in the Xabashis for help in fear of "enemy" that doesn't destined to attack. The courts know better, they need not to fire a bullet from here, everything will fall into place, simply because they have overwhelming support from the Somali people such as myself from Hargeysa and that is the reality, if cared to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted August 25, 2006 Red Sea, The courts is based solely on clan yet they pretend to represent Somalia? They are the same people who looted southern Somalia, so please do not try to fool us. They have defeated the weak warlords of Mogadishu [bravo]and thus belive they can defeat anyone another lapse in jugdment. They have denied there is any trouble in lower Shabbele but some trouble in Galkacyu. The reason they have not attacked Baidoa and Puntland is they are not able at this time. It is going down to the gun. Puntland supports the TFG not because it has more members than any other clan nor that it has more officials but because it wants to create federal areas for everyone that wishes. The courts like General Aydeed believe they can impose their will on others through the barrel of the gun. They can not and will find out very soon. It seems to be going down to an all out war. This will benefit the secesionist the most, but lets hope it can be averted... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted August 26, 2006 I read that both qaybdiid and Puntland are move fast towards southern Mudugh and galgaduud unopposed. Last time I checked, they have captured three settlements from the courts. What strength are you speaking of red sea. Furthermore, you know what Sharif said today? "I call upon the poeple to attack ethiopian troops and then we will come to their aid, but they must attack first". What happened cross the border and we will "jihad" on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted August 26, 2006 The court is clever, they refuse to engage Qaydiid Melesia and Puntland army. They backed up and no where to find them in mudug. Very clever tactics, they do not give puntland a chance to score easy point. losing a battle in mudug and Galgaduud the origin of court base, will not look good, so they really avoiding confrontation there. the time is their side. they are more strong in south and simetime more volnurable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salad_jelle Posted August 26, 2006 duke :if puntland supports TNG THEN BEE IT , WE IN XAAMER DONT SUPPORT ABDULAHI YUSUF....LISNT WE WILL NEVER SUPPORT ABDULAHI YUSUF NOT BECAUSE OF HIS TRIBE BUT WHAT HE HIS VISION OF SOMALI IS. ICU DONT HAVE TIME FOR THESE COWARDS , PUNTLAND.TNG,ABDI QAYBEED. LISNT WHO IS EXPANDING NEW AREA GALGACYO IS HAVE SOUTH WHICH IS LAWLESS . INSTEAD OF PUNTLAND ADMININSTRATION SUPPORTING IT THEY WANT AGAINTS IT BECUASE OF THERE HATE FOR SOUTH SOMALI TRIBE. ANY WAYS WE ALL KNOW THE REALTY OF THE GROUND WE ARE NOT BLIND ,MR DUKE YOU TOO KNOW YOUR UNCLES ARE WORNG ON THIS ISSUE. THIS WAY NOW SOUTH SOMALI IS FINDING OUT REASONE WHY SOMALILAND IS FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCY , TO GET WAY FROM THISE MONSTERS ,POWER HUNGRY PEOPLE AND YOU DAMM WELL WHO THEY ARE. IF THE AGRESSION FROM PUNTLAND KEEPS ON GOIN. SOMALIA WILL BE DONE FOR, SINCE 14 MEETING DID NOT SUCCEED . WE IN XAAMAR WILL FORM OUR OWN STATE SOUTH SOMALIA STATE. PUNTLAND CAN TAKE ABDULAHI YUSUF BACK TO PUNTLAND. ICU CAN CRASH THESE MILITES WHATS THE PURPOSE WE DONT WANT PUNTLAND . WE ONLY WANNA CLEAN OUR PLAYGROUND. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alle-ubaahne Posted August 26, 2006 Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: I read that both qaybdiid and Puntland are move fast towards southern Mudugh and galgaduud unopposed. Last time I checked, they have captured three settlements from the courts. What strength are you speaking of red sea. Furthermore, you know what Sharif said today? "I call upon the poeple to attack ethiopian troops and then we will come to their aid, but they must attack first". What happened cross the border and we will "jihad" on you. General Duke aanba la yaabanaa, kan aa iiga daran oo faanka iyo bootada meel walba la taagan. SOL goormeey noqotay meel qabiilka si cad loogu difaaco? Cajiib! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted August 26, 2006 Xamar 101. The people of Mogadishu you speak of are which ones? The clan of Xasan Dahir or the multitude who have been under oppression for the past 16 years? You say you support these courts but who are they, they belong to the same armed clans that we called warlords, a change of shirt means nothing as we have seen. The usual suspects are still around including Xasan Dahir and Inda Cade... Ubahane, I am not one who hides behind anything, it has abeen a number of weeks since you have been calling for a Jihad and promising like your uncle Abdiqasin to sacrifice yourself agaisnt the Tigray... But you are still here Also what happened to attacking Baidoa? Bravado and false claims are yours mate, I told you before go get a job with Shabbele.news they chatt thet same garbage.. NN, you hit the nail on the head, they talk a good game but now Mudug is out of bounds for them, they vacated the last settlement Galinsoot a couple of days ago without a shot... The clan courts will be opposed by all Somali's including Puntland, reer Bay & Bakool, Jubas and so on because we want equality and not the USC pipe dream of clan dominance... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alle-ubaahne Posted August 26, 2006 ^^HOrta ow guuriya gabarta/wiilka kuu dhalatay/shay waan maqlay. Koley adiga ducadeena marabtid iyo inaad maxaakimta dhinac ka raacdid oo Adeer c/laahi yuusuf ka *****d, waxaan marka u duceyneenaa in ilaah uu ka dhigo tii diinteeda iyo dadkeeda iyo dalkeeda anfacdo. Hadeey gabar tahayna wiilka aan dhali doono aan u doonayaa ee iga gudoon codsiga! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faarax-Brawn Posted August 26, 2006 God willingly our patriotic brothers in Puntland will stand up to the short-sighted leadership and establish islamic courts and join their brethren in Islam for peace and prosperity. No war will happen inshallah, we are all Somalis, tired and sick of Qabiil. Islam is our only salvation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted August 26, 2006 Duke, sxb, just say it, you missed a lot the old divided city of Mogadishu and the warlord bloodsuckers. No more fantasiyo and partying eh? Qofkii Mogadishu ka naxi jiray ee u damqanjiray maanta wuu ku faraxsanyay isbedelka ka dhacay. Ninkii ku farxijiray siday ahaanjirtayna maanta waa ka naxsanyay. That is how it is. Indhocade waxba ha ku hoos dhuumanin - Indhocade chose to be on the side of the victors and he is reapping those fruits. But what you should be concerned about is the defeated warlords that are holed up in the ghetos of Galkaio and Baydhabo. Those are the ones that need to be finished, for they choosed the wrong side in this righteous war against tyrany and stooges. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites