LadyFatima Posted May 8, 2002 Salaama All.... A Friend forwarded this Email to me..plz read it and forwarded to as many plp as you can!..... Thanks in advance.... P.S This is another site to watch out for http://www.faithfreedom.org/ .. ......................................... Dear Readers. BE CAREFUL there are certain anti-Islam groups are trying to produce a new Quran!! Please read this e-mail and send it to all friends. Some enemies of Islam have established an on-line Quran Surah with addition of some self-written SURAH; examples can be seen on the web site on the Internet (shown below). It's very dangerous for the Muslim world, especially for the newly converted Muslims or the Muslims who don't know much about Islam and Quran; they might read all this FALSE and Bad material. Kindly send this message (with the web sites shown below) to inform as many persons as you can. 1) One of the sites as an example of their Quran is: http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/geq96/original http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/geq96/original> THOSE WHO READ THE QUR-AN AND UNDERSTAND THE ARABIC LANGUAGE CAN EASILY MAKE OUT THE DIFFERENCE. 2) There is another site that hsa been launched by the Israelis http://www.thequran.com http://www.thequran.com> Please forward this e-mail to all Muslims you know, to be aware and be careful... NOTE: 1. As myself, i knew the differences, especially site # 1 in the sura they call it (surat Musilimoon) which is NOT in the Holy Quran. 2. If you can hack those pages, please do it to see yourself.( There are No virus found in the pages, belive me !!!). Your Well Wisher. Farrukh. ------------------ "If Allah helps you, none can overcome you: If He forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you? in Allah, then, Let believers put their trust" al-Qur'an 3:160 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted May 8, 2002 OH,that was the most horrible thing i ever seen been told about ISLAM OT MUSLIMS, THANKS sister,i will send to many friends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuruddin Posted May 8, 2002 Lol its nothing to wory about they dont even cleym that its quran they only cleym to take the chalenge from quran to produc sura lake it. You have to be super jahil to not se that its not quran even in front page you se the chaleng they want to met. "And if you are in doubt as to which We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a sura like it, and call on your helper, besides Allah, if you are truthful. Sura 2:23 And they did not forfel the chaleng to produc sura lake it most of the staf is borowd from quran not original lake "Alef Lam Meem""Inna Arsalnaka lil-alameena " thges hole vers is taken from quran with no change "Inna Arsalnaka lil-alameena mubash-shiran wa natheera" so 90% is quranic and the rest injektion to make difrent from quran. The chaleng is not only to produc in arabic bat to be as elequent as the quran. 3 lines that do not fal in 16 bihar wich are "at-Tawil, al-Bassit, al-Wâfir, al-Kâmil, ar-Rajs, al-Khafîf, al-Hazaj, al-Muttakarib, al-Munsarih, al-Muktatab, al-Muktadarak, al-Madîd, al-Mujtath, al-Ramel, al-Khabab and as-Saria'..." The qurash in that time was not able to do and todeys people are not even 10% as good as the people in the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kowneyn Posted May 9, 2002 LadyFatima: Why share such junk with us. This stuff is meant to bring doubts in to the hearts of muslims. Its silly and amusing to the those well grounded on faith on the other hand its may be very dangerous for the weak of faith to read such stuff because it may increase satan's dominion over there heart. So do something to help the weak of faith not hurt them further if u mean well. Kowneyn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kowneyn Posted May 9, 2002 Dr. Tariq Al Swaidan discovered some verses in the Holy Quran that mention > one thing is equal to another, i.e, men are equal to women. Although this > makes sense grammatically, the astonishing fact is that the number of times > the word man appears in the Quran is 24 and number of times the word woman > appears is also 24,therefore not only is this phrase correct in the > grammatical sense but also true mathematically, i.e. 24=24. > > Upon further analysis of various verses, he discovered that this is > consistent throughout the whole Quran, where it says one thing is like > another. See below for astonishing results:- > > The word number of times mentioned in Arabic Quran: > > Dunia (one name for life) 115 . Aakhirat (one name for the life after this > world) 115 > Malaika (Angels) 88 . Shayteen (Satan) 88 > Life 145 . Death 145 > Benefit 50 . Corrupt 50 > People 50 . Messengers 50 > Eblees (king of devils) 11 . Seek refuge from Eblees 11 > Museebah (calamity) 75 . Thanks 75 > Spending (Sadaqah) 73 . Satisfaction 73 > People who are mislead 17 . Dead people 17 > Muslimeen 41 . Jihad 41 > Gold 8 . Easy life 8 > Magic 60 . Fitnah (dissuasion, misleading) 60 > Zakat(Taxes Muslims pay to the pooor) 32 .Barakah (Increasing or blessings > of wealth) 32 > Mind 49 . Noor 49 > Tongue 25 . Sermon 25 > Desite 8 . Fear 8 > Speaking publicly 18 . Publicising 18 > Hardship 114 . Patience 114 > Muhammed 4 . Sharee*ah (Muhammed's teachings) 4 > Man 24 . Woman 24 > > And amazingly enough have a look how many times the following words appear:- > > Solat 5, Month 12, Day 365, Sea 32, Land 13 > Sea + land = 32+13= 45 > % Sea=32/45*100=71.11111111% > % Land=13/45*100= 28.88888889% > =100.00 > > Modern science has only recently proven that the water covers 71.111% of the > earth, while the land covers 28.889%. > > Is this a coincidence ? > Question is that Who taught Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) all this? > > Reply automatecally comes in mind that ALMIGHTY ALLAH taught him this. As > the Quran also tells tells us this. > > Please pass this on to all your friends and Muslims you know. > Read the Quraan and learn about the rasuul scws your heart if it has any goodness in it will latch on to the truth. The Quraan is the criterion or Furqaan between hearts deserving of ALLAAH's mercy and light and those too evil for such a blessing. Inshallaah we all among those who the Quraan proves as lovers of truth and justice and ALLAAH and his messengers and not those in love with darkness, satan, oppression, racism, beastiality and all the sickness that are sugar-coated in todays materialistic and utterly decadent "civil society". Kowneyn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyFatima Posted May 10, 2002 Salaama All........... Kowneyn....you said "Why share such junk with us. This stuff is meant to bring doubts in to the hearts of muslims"....What is your definition of "junk"? Knowldege is not a Junk! but in your case I guess ignorance is a bliss!!.....This "junk" or as I would call it useful Info. was meant to awake those who don't know about what is out there and what is being said about their religion..it's not meant to make anyone weak or have doubts but anyway.....If you don't feel it that is fine but don't ruin it for the rest..... Besides....It's always a good thing to stay well-informed!! Ma'salaama [This message has been edited by LadyFatima (edited 05-10-2002).] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted May 10, 2002 well,well, as far as i know, LadyFatima was trying to inform us these things and nothing is wrong with that, but what kowneyn said is that these kinds of stuff will make the weak faith go astray, but that is up to the weak guy's faith! peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kowneyn Posted May 10, 2002 LadyFatima: Its under the guise and the cover of such silly rambling that the devil's work is done: Fighting ignorance, freedom of speech and press etc. All u have to watch is cnn or fox to know what they mean. Presenting have truths to those who are not firmly grounded in the truth can cause confusion and doubts. To add doubts and confusion rather strengthening faith and conviction is doing the devil's work. The rasuul scws early in his mission forbade the companions from reading the torah and injiil but later in the mission didnot object to it. Because a large portion of the quraan was revealed and the companions were firmly grounded in faith. They were firmly grounded in the truth and could distinguish the truth from falsehood, Afterall these books contained elements of truth and as well as falsification. Sharing this junk has no purpose in this forum since it has nothing that even resembles the truth in it. But there is the danger of that it could add to the confusion of one struggling with his faith or on the edge. Responsible pple, who are with ALLAAH inwardly outwardly should spend their effort in bringing the muslims back to the firm ground of true faith. So u see ignorance of somethings is bliss. Knowledge is not always good. In fact, one of the prayers we inherited from the beloved of ALLAAH and the best of his creatures swcs was to ask ALLAAH for knowledge that benefits. I think it was imaam ghazali who explained this as any knowledge which draws one away the hell-fire and closer to Paradise. On the other hand he explained knowledge that does not benefit is that which causes the opposite of the above. So sister all I was saying to you was to be responsible with such junk; that is if you meant well in the first place!!! Kowneyn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hibo Posted May 10, 2002 Question: Salam o Aleikum, A friend of mine brought to my attention this Web site where the guy changed the verses of the Qoran and says it is the Qoran. This is the site: XXXXXXX What can we do to stop this? Thank you very much and please cite your sources. Answer: Praise be to Allah. Before answering this question, we should advise you of the importance of wisdom in denouncing evil, and of being careful not to inadvertantly promote anti-Islamic websites so that everyone will go and read them, because this will indirectly contribute to the promotion of these worthless people who claim to imitate the Qur’aan. Producing anything like the Qur’aan is impossible, because Allaah challenged anyone to do this. This challenge was issued to the most brilliant and eloquent Arab poets at the time when the Qur’aan was revealed, which was also the time when Arabic eloquence was at its peak. Allaah said (interpretation of the meaning): “Let them then produce a recital like unto it (the Qur’aan) if they are truthful.” [al-Tur 52:34] When they could not do this, Allaah challenged them to produce ten soorahs like its soorahs: “Or they say: ‘He (Muhammad) forged it (the Qur’aan).’ Say: ‘Bring you then ten forged soorahs (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allah (to your help), if you speak the truth!’” [Hud 11:13 – interpretation of the meaning]. When they could not do this, Allah challenged them to produce just one soorah that contained the same eloquence and wisdom as the Qur’aan. He said (interpretation of the meaning): “Or do they say: ‘He (Muhammad) has forged it’? Say: ‘Bring then a soorah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whomsoever you like, besides Allah, if you are truthful!” [Yoonus 10:38] Allah called on them to seek help from whoever they wanted, and to accept the challenge. He said (interpretation of the meaning): “And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down to Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a soorah of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful.” [al-Baqarah 2:23] When they were unable to do this, Allah informed them that they would never be able to do it, no matter who they called upon to help them. He said (interpretation of the meaning): “Say: ‘If mankind and jinn were together to produce the like of this Qur’aan, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another.’” [al-Isra’ 17:88] There is no one except Allah who can produce the like of the Qur’aan, because the Qur’aan, as He says, is “a Book, the Verses whereof are perfected and then explained in detail from One Who is All-Wise and Well-Acquainted (with all things).” [Hud 11:1 – interpretation of the meaning]. When some liars did try to imitate the Qur’aan they came up with ridicualous nonsense that would make children laugh, let alone mature and intelligent adults. For example, the liar Musaylimah said: “O frog, daughter of two frogs, croak as much as you want, your upper part is in the water and your lower part is in the mud.” This is an example of the kind of thing said by him and other pretenders to Prophethood. (See Sayd al-Khaatir by Ibn al-Jawzi, p. 404). Some forms of falsehood may deceive some of the people because of their ignorance and lack of understanding of the rules of grammar and accepted styles of eloquence in Arabic. But anyone who has intelligence and common sense should at least be able to see the difference and realize that these made-up words cannot possibly be Qur’aan. If we look at the Website referred to in the question, we see that kufr is quite clearly mentioned in these fabricated soorahs, such as the statement that the Messiah is the son of God or is God, and the promotion of the evil madhhab of Raafidah (a kind of Shi’ah), and other such nonsense. There are also some weird contradictions, for example, these liars say in the so-called sixth aayah of the so-called “soorah al-tajassud”: “Exalted be He above taking any of His creation as a son,” but then we find in the so-called ninth aayah of the so-called “soorah al-eemaan” the words: “You are he, the son of God, truly; in you we believe.” But verily Allah has spoken the truth when He said (interpretation of the meaning): “Do they not then consider the Qur’aan carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradictions.” [al-Nisaa’ 4:82] You also find other silly comments in these made-up soorahs, such as the claim that Allah permitted His Prophet to change whatever he wanted in the Qur’aan, as in the so-called sixth aayah of the so-called “soorah al-wasaaya”: “Abrogate whatever you want to abrogate of the commands that We have given you, for We permit you to make changes to Our decisions”! Every Muslim will realize the extent of the lies contained in these words that come from this mind that is driven by ulterior motives. Have you ever seen anything more foolish than these words? Allah has told us to adhere to His Book and put it into practice, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “And this is a blessed Book which We have sent down, so follow it and fear Allah, that you may receive mercy.” [al-An’aam 6:155] He commanded His Messenger to adhere to the Qur’aan, saying (interpretation of the meaning): “So hold you (Muhammad) to that which is inspired in you. Verily, you are on a Straight Path.” [al-Zukhruf 43:43]. Allah warned His Messenger not to fail in conveying the message complete and unaltered, as He said (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, they were about to tempt you away from that which We have revealed unto you (O Muhammad), to fabricate something other than it against Us, and then they would certainly have taken you for a friend! And had We not made you stand firm, you would nearly have inclined to them a little. In that case, We would have made you taste a double portion (of punishment) in this life and a double portion (of punishment) after death. And then you would have found none to help you against Us” [al-Isra’ 17:73-75] and “… if he (Muhammad) had forged a false saying concerning Us (Allah), We surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might), and then certainly should have cut off his life artery (aorta)” [al-Haaqqah 69:44-46]. Having said all this, how can there be any so-called soorah that says the messenger has the right to abrogate whatever he wants in the Qur’aan and that he has the authority to change or omit whatever rules he wants?? The only One Who can abrogate whatever He wants of the Qur’aan is the One Who revealed it, may He be glorified, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “Allah blots out what He wills and confirms (what He wills). And with Him is the Mother of the Book” [al-Ra’d 13:39]; “Whatever a Verse (revelation) We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?” [al-Baqarah 2:106]. We, like our Messenger, are obliged to understand and implement the Qur’aan without distorting, omitting or changing anything. Allah said (interpretation of the meaning): “(This is) a Book which We have sent down to you, full of blessings that they may ponder over its Verses, and that men of understanding may remember.” [saad 38:29]. We have seen in the false soorahs quoted on that Internet website a real example of what is referred to in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say: ‘This is from Allah,’ but it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie against Allah while they know it.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:78]. We ask Allah to make His Religion and His Book prevail and to make His friends victorious, as We ask Him to defeat and humiliate His enemies and cause them to fail. May Allah bless our Prophet Muhammad. Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alisomali Posted May 10, 2002 to say these sites were disgusting would be an understatment. They are designed to go into your heart and foment hate for islam in the weak muslims. but inshallah, that will not happen, because the people who made thos sites are driven by unbrideled hate. And hate NEVER WINS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hibo Posted May 10, 2002 Hi LadyFatima, thanks for passing the word. Wish I could get them to repent for their slander - Thats purely satans publicaton (subhanalah.) - I stopped reading half way thru when they started mockering the prophet(scw)- Kufars at the highest level!! In time they'll realise their idiocy. God Bless. ------------------ "He tried to be somebody by trying to be like everybody, which makes him a nobody." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyFatima Posted May 16, 2002 Salaama All.... Thanks guy's for all of your inputs!!.... Ma'salaama ------------------ "If Allah helps you, none can overcome you: If He forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you? in Allah, then, Let believers put their trust" al-Qur'an 3:160 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
