A.J. Posted May 5, 2007 Castro, The Somaliland indepence goal came out of the Conferences that the people who inhabit the region undertook after the area was liberated from the Barre regime. it cannot be said that it was one person who came up with the idea, which can never be said of any state. The idea came about after a series of conferences held in various cities around 1990/91. it was combined idealogy and so far it has proved to be succesfull in enhancing the status of the region. it was and still is the will of the people. In terms of where Somaliland goes from where, it is a simple case. Somaliland will continue to strife for international recoqnition of its independence and in the meantime its programme of internal developement and adavancement will continue. this has been the idealogy from day one and will be for the forseeable future. To those of you who dont take the steadfastness, drive and ambition of the Somaliland people let me tell you this-> No Somalilander will ever allow their country to loose their independence and sovereignty again. we would rather die then let that happen. re-unification is never going to be happen and the sooner people get that into their heads the sooner the region can move forward. Its like JB said 16 years are not that much ,,,, we can still wait for another 16 yrs and even more ,,,, [/uNQUOTE] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted May 6, 2007 ^^^^ Thanks Renegade. Would you happen to have or know of links to sites containing any discussion of secession in these conferences? Basically, what is the earliest recorded history of the secession? If, as you say, it had been discussed in meetings or conferences during 1990-1991, somebody must have been taking minutes or transcribing the discussions. Surely something this important must have been written down to be propagated to the masses, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted May 6, 2007 Originally posted by Castro: Red, while many here would argue against the legitimacy of the secession cause, I'm more interested in its history. You may not know this but do you have any idea who the god father of the movement is? And when did it first appear in the discourse? It may be that the secession of Somaliland is a forgone matter but I dare those who're for or against it to answer the questions I asked above. I sure don't know the answers. You've asked a decent question, I will try to give a decent answer. [Afeef (disclaimer): my following answer has nothing to do with the Stooge of Xabashadda, dowlad ku sheega or any Soomaali ku sheeg that supports Xabashi's occupation of our land.] Soomaali National Movement [ama aan u fasiree Afsoomaali, Dhaqdhaqaaqa Qaranimadda Soomaaliyeed] was not a separatist jabhad. Its manifesto did not carry any separation or dismemberment of Soomaaliya. Their main and only objective was to free the injustice [as they perceived] the gobolladda Waqooyi from the last regime, and that was it. It was not a movement that had a clear-cut, defined idea that proposed in dalka la kala jaro. Besides seeking and striving to topple the last dictatorial regime, it also sought a fair and just power-sharing new deal in Soomaali-wide, particularly for gobolladda Waqooyi. The separatist ideas was not a forethought, well-meditated objective when it came about sovereignty. The idea of separate political separation came out nowhere, almost an impulse and was a reaction to the perceived misjuged 'wrong-doings' still committed by whom they referred as "Southerner" politicians even as the regime fell. The impulse reaction stems from the quick appointing of Cali Mahdi Maxamed as an interim president, mostly anointed and chosen by what was then known as Manifesto Group in Jabuuti in early 1991. Some later-day separatists, such as Cumar Carte Qaalib, were supporters of Cali Mahdi. In fact, he was his first 'prime minister.' The SNM leaders thought this was a second great act of injustice, first being the policies of the just fallen regime, since no body consulted with them. In fact, no body consulted all of the jabhadaha dalka ka dagaalamaayi that time, including USC. Max'ed Faarax Caydiid, who was caught off-guard while still fighting in deep south, too, was not pleased, did not sit well with, and it was this -- the quick anointment of Cali Mahdi as a president chosen by a self-selected few -- that harbingered Caydiid-Cali Mahdi's deadly conflict that soon to follow. It was a deadly precursor that the planners did not intend to have imagined. Erring greatly by not consulting the Soomaali-wide, those who appointed Cali Mahdi, too, had not imagined that their decision will hasten the self-declaration of a new 'country' in Waqooyi. C/raxmaan Tuur's SNM, Cumar Jees' SPM and Caydiid's USC -- the then three largest jabhad guerrillas in the country -- all had a secret, Xabashi-executed plan. One of the plan was when the regime falls, the three guerrillas will gather in Xamar and choose among themselves an interim president. Another naive misjudgment about Soomaali people. They [the repel leaders] did not envision Manifesto Group -- whose members were prominent civilian businessmen, former senior politicians, wealthy men and intellectuals, Cali Mahdi among them, that signed fearlessly a public baaq [hence the 'manifesto'] in late 1989 asking Max'ed Siyaad Barre to peacefully resign and leave for exile, promising no prosecution would follow him and his family -- would abruptly appoint one of their own. Those who selected Cali Mahdi did not envision this, either; neither did those who quickly declared their hastened sovereignty in Burco right after Cali Mahdi's selection as an interim president. It was simply an overreaction, and perhaps using this threatening card, they thought, perhaps, they will get a greater concession from the south's leaders. Those few days and weeks or even months that followed the collapse of the regime really caused the predicament we find ourselves in now. Each of them equally made a miscalculated, misjudged, ill-advised political decisions that, alas, would soon affect millions of Soomaalis, including us the SOLers. Can we now move from here, in midnimo, walaaltinimo iyo iskaashinimo, intending in sound mind to learn and correct all the mistakes those said groups above did? The is answer is yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted May 6, 2007 ^^^^ Thank you, MMA. Now, where is the SNM manifesto? Suddenly, I have an idea.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites