A glimpse of history, Biadoa the city of death

[Jacaylbaro]

NAA, I thought you left this section ,,,

[Biixi]

Aideed and his USC(H-) were responsible for Baidoa and no one else. STOP REWRITING HISTORY.

[Gabbal]

Jb, Siyaasada so fara gelin maayo kowdhe balse hadaan arko tariikh u baahan sifaalayn dee inta karaankayga ah waan sheegi.

[Jacaylbaro]

markii hore intaas kamaad reebin ee waad is raacisay ,,,,,,, i thought you won't even read

[Emperor]

Originally posted by Kashafa:

a) What dawlad-isku sheeg has fully incorporated the USC remenants and the JVA alliance in it's ranks, together with the Ethiopian tanks and armour ? (Hint: acronym = TFG)

This is not true sxb, the TFG is inclusive of all Somali people from Ras Asayr to Ras Kamboni, the groups you talk are the ones that are sidelining the TFG they are working hard and long to stop as they did to every government, indeed a group that feels threated by any form of instability, the only two groups that have gained more and benefited from the long Somali civil and hence inflicted more pain, death and rape than any other Somali militia group.

 

b) Is it not than rank stankin' hypocrisy and disgusting political oppurtunism for one to profess support for the same entity that supports, protects, and rewards the architects and leaders of the ethnic cleansing, in Baidoa, and else where in Somalia.

The leaders and architects of this genoside are being hunted by the TFG, they are not helped or empowered but weakened by the TFG, although the TFG’s top agenda is to restore security and complete the reconciliation process, time will come when the ruthless thugs (that masterminded the policy of starving young innocent Somali kids to death) will pay the price.

 

c) What do you call someone who conveniently 'forgets' the massacres and genocide committed by men he worships because of clan ties, yet trumpets the massacres of 'the enemy', yet incredibly, turns around and defends and protects 'the enemy' because now, they're on 'our side' ? I have yet to come across a word to describe such a person in the Arabic, English, and Somali languages.

Sxb I have no Idea what you are on about here, I can only imagine your sincerity of this case but will you for once stop the selective memory and obsession with the TFG, we have heard your case in every post, you are against the TFG just get over it and use to live with it. You see if someone talks about a girl night out party or a boxing match on the TV or anything for that matter you always love to sing the tunes of the TFG is this or that, I have respect for you brother but seriously now can you blame the TFG for this, an entity that was born a decade later in which it’s senior leaders not being played party, they have supported and liberated the regions in question notably Shabelle, Bay and Bakool, Baidoa was the seat of the government and welcomed by the local people.

 

Ookiyaale Soo gasho next time

[Emperor]

Originally posted by N/AA:

In their retreat,

this is where the SNF made sure the people of Bay did not act with them as they had acted the first time.

It was a time of great sadness, anger, and frustration for all Somalis and particularly some groups. Even the crops of those groups were burned but they did not necessarily starve because their crops were burned, as Somalia has always been accustomed to drought.

Aydiid had a lot to do with the starvation because he also prevented the international community from transporting food to them when he used the food as political tool.

N/AA you made a good point. However it's very sad that to this day and age you still seem to justify the mass murder that was commited by the SNF militia men, I believe there was mistreatment from some local members of Bay and Bakool against the fleeing people of Gedo but not enough to justify the killing of some half million people, the burning of plantations and the policy of extinction of generations... it wasn't about retaliation of one group against another as you want us believe but rather a sick plocy and well thought of plan employed by the USC/SNA and SNF militia's in Somalia.

[Jacaylbaro]

which one is worse ,,, the one in Baidoa or the recent one in Mogadishu ???

[Emperor]

^How do u compare? Do you have a sense at all? Theer have never been anything like it in the whole of Africa. The hollycaust of Africa must be remembered, the nubmer of death toll were estimated to be half a million people, that's the same number of people that's living in Mogadishu today... Think before you ask...

[Jacaylbaro]

was a simple question sxb ,,,, i thought the same number you mention is what died in mogadishu during those femous days in xamar.

[Emperor]

^No where near it... the proportion in Biadoa and around that region was a lot larger than anywhere in Africa let alone Somalia...

 

The reactions from the world was absolutely massive bacause of the scale of the disaster, no where in the world have received that sort of attention during the time... will post the news of this later

[Jacaylbaro]

Ok ,, let's wait and hear from the other nomads here.

 

there must be another idea on this issue.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Mr Jacayl, I don't think any "informed" political junkie on this forum believes that half a million people died in the recent Mogadishu war. 1/2 a million deaths would mean half of Mogadishu is dead. That would wipe out a whole clan. Habaarka jooji waryaa.

 

The anti-TFG Mogadishu elders have estimated the total deaths (after the Shabaabs retreated) to be around one thousand. One would expect that number itself to be "inflated" alittle for political reasons. Check SOL archives and you may find related news articles about the elders' estimate number.

 

The shabaabs are well and kicking good out there.

[Gabbal]

Originally posted by Emperor:

]N/AA you made a good point. However it's very sad that to this day and age you still seem to justify the mass murder that was commited by the SNF militia men,

I believe

there was mistreatment from some local members of Bay and Bakool against the fleeing people of Gedo but not enough to justify the killing of some half million people, the burning of plantations and the policy of extinction of generations... it wasn't about retaliation of one group against another as you want us believe but rather a sick plocy and well thought of plan employed by the USC/SNA and SNF militia's in Somalia. [/QB]

What are you talking about?? This is not about what you "believe". :confused: What you "believe" has nothing to do with what is being discussed. That is what happened and that is truth and it has nothing to do with what you "believe" because those of us that went through it and saw are still alive.

 

War ninyaho iska aamus. Ku ye "Employed by USC and SNF" as two most mortal opponents of the civil war were allies. Isn't the SNF the same organization that "freed" the Gaalkacyo you prize today after a thousand of your elders were gunned down by the supposed "allies" of the SNF. Why was not the SNF complicit in Gaalkacyo?

 

Adeer Kismaayo baa waxaan kaa keentay, hana is daalin. You probably seem like a fool even to yourself.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Horn is back.

[Gabbal]

Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte:

Mr Jacayl, I don't think any "informed" political junkie on this forum believes that half a million people died in the recent Mogadishu war. 1/2 a million deaths would mean half of Mogadishu is dead. That would wipe out a whole clan. Habaarka jooji waryaa.

 

The anti-TFG Mogadishu elders have estimated the total deaths (

after the Shabaabs retreated

) to be around one thousand. One would expect that number itself to be "inflated" alittle for political reasons. Check SOL archives and you may find related news articles about the elders' estimate number.

 

The shabaabs are well and kicking good out there.

You have always seemed to hold to "political correctness" even when dishing your biased reporting.

 

Mogadishu is burned sxb, thousands of been killed by the barrage of indiscriminate Ethiopian shelling of the city. A relative of mine just came back from the city after having searched for his mother and he said the city is dead. It is dead. Everything is lifeless except for the dozen or so areas cordoned off by hundreds of thousands of Ethiopian troops which also houses all the men you see on the press.