Puntland; the case of Mid-Term Aboriginal rights and a goatee

[General Duke]

 

The aim of this post is simply to remind ourselves of what we have been through this past decade. Since the inception of Puntland, much has changed in Somalia and within the state itself. Political intrigues, inter clan skirmishes and outright rebellions within and constant danger from without have been the order of the day. It is important to note that Puntland came through a voluntary process, no clan elder was held hostage and no clan was forced to sign on to the creation of the state.

 

The miracle that took place in terms of development was mostly achieved by the hard working population with the government playing a minimal role at best, that of a referee with the aim of trying to keep the peace. Initially it was not clear if this new State and the ideas behind it would work or if its champions could even manage to convince the masses at home and those in the Diaspora to support it. Alhamdulillah today a week from its 12th anniversary Puntland as an idea has gone down quite well.

 

The people of the state genuinely believe in its existence and those in the Diaspora have as of late fallen deeply in love with all things Puntland. In every corner of the world we have a Puntland Diaspora Forum (PDF) chapter, though I am critic of this particular organizations usefulness, I am unable to ignore the fact of its existence and the important role it can play in the future.

 

While its human nature to blame others for ones shortcomings, its absurd to think that some groups within the state always repeat the same mistakes and think that no one takes notice. They are the first ones to run around widely and claim that they are "no longer Puntlanders” when an uncle of theirs losses an election or when a new name to counter Puntland emerges from within their midst’ .

 

They are also quick to return home back to the fold, all smiles when they realize it was all a false dawn. How many times in single week can an individual witness a false dawn? It’s weird when one notices the latest rehashed talking points.

 

Have you heard the latest one about the Aborigines of a certain well known area are unable to exploit their vast diamond reserves and thus have been forced to turn to the fascists skin heads from abroad for support? It gets worse; some are even claiming that years of exploitation and under representations have made it possible for this deep seated resentment to take root, for people to lose thir minds and for an Aborigine to seek the help of a Pakistani.

 

One can smell the bullshit from a mile away, an interview with a common person becomes, “Mr John a man from the people who reside mostly in Western Wales, Southern England and Central Mid-Western France”.

 

This somehow gives them the hope that the "their land" will not be colonized by “others” anytime soon, that by repeating in every paragraph of every press release the name of the regions after an individuals name, this uttering itself will keep the land intact and safe from exploitation and reserved for the aborigines of” Western Wales, Southern England and Central-Mid Western France”.

 

It’s all amusing and not really a big deal until you notice that this nonsense always occurs bang in the middle of an administrations term. This is where it becomes more than sinister, for why not at the beginning or at the end of each term? What does this mean?

 

This is an important question and one which I have puzzled over for a long time, until my uncle Farah cleared it up for me. His thinking was that at the beginning of each term, the groups with the loudest mouth are too busy kissing the new President’s behind, each of them wanting to get the maximum number of cabinet posts to worry too much about their “indigenous” rights. Then at the end of each term, they start to believe it’s surely their turn this time to lead the state, and thus forget about regional Central-Midwestern slogans or that clan entity they created only a few month ago.

They get a new lease of Puntland love and rush to become the next President, until it all crashes down on them again. My uncle Farah, believes that he is a realist and claims he is not bothered by who wins the Presidency in the future they will never be remotely as good as Yusuf Yey.

 

Moving on, Somalia seems to not be changing for the better any time soon. The SNM have won the gubernatorial elections of NW Somalia at last and Djibouti sent a somewhat unimportant fellow to attend the coronation of the man from Burco .I must admit though I have been impressed by the old man’s Adam Sandler goatee.

 

In the south we have Al Shabaab, which means “youth” in Arabic, yet in reality it’s no more than a deviant sect full of Horney old men who are ready to detonate every little brainwashed child in their midst as a smart bomb in order to bring the Caliphate back to Bar Ubax. Alas Al Shabaab, they were once fashionable; the only thing is what say you of the man who has joined them yesterday in order to help further the cause of the aboriginal people of Western Wales, Eastern England and Mid-Central France?

[General Duke]

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Now we are in the middle of another term and alas we have a new burst of Aboriginal, indigenous rights of people from certain regions flaring all over the place...

[Cowke]

Your right about 1 thing passions are very high about puntland lately especially in qurbaha. You can just notice how many meetings we have nowadays. It's like every month at least. Not to mention sanad gurada which is now become a tradition.

 

But their is 1 thing that is been huge problem. Unity of the people at degaan level which is lacking whether I like to accept or not. We rely so much on the odeys and clan elders and forget to reach out to the avg abdi in dhahar and buhodle.

 

Puntland needs to get this multi party thing going so the people and citizens can feel apart of the process because I think that's what makes somaliland really strong when it comes to unity aspect.

 

As far as seccessionism of hargeisa sxb thats just pipedreams and no matter how many doors are knocked on or how many calanyahow ha dhicin are sung won't give them recognition. The best bet they have is accept federalism or at worst stay isolated. If they do accept federalism they will need to do their bit and contribute to pacifying the south especially around the hamari bloc. They would be good addition to have as an ally especially because they can talk to those total nuts of yusuf garad people.

 

We already have managed to pacify the sharif bloc and the little qanyare bloc will be lost without such backing from rra/yusuf garad ppl. If the snm get the yusuf garad to sit down and accept the federal card. We can guarantee that rra will sit down with us because we dont tend to have bad relationship with them.

 

The qanyare guy will be left out on his own and we will can all go in 4 the kill and finish the remainding dissedents.

 

As for the jubba issue leave that to us we know how to talk to them and believe me they only shabab because they know they surrounded by crazy usc elements. Once the usc element threat is taken away the jubba guys will fall in with the federal card.

 

So their is some use we can have from the snm clan if they do their bit.

[NASSIR]

"They are quick to return home when they realize it was all a false dawn. How many times in single week can an individual witness a false dawn? It’s weird when one notices the latest rehashed talking points."

 

First indigenous is a term, a political term, in reference to the natives of the land. Its core meaning permeats the essence of your post or the sinister designs of Puntland in seeking a world wide support to crash an internal opposition under the false pretext of "terrorism". Its propoganda machinary has so far proved to be far-reaching and vociferous, even winning the hearts and minds of the most gullible in the region. My aim was to highlight the moral position of the clan militia in the area as to why they had been forced to defend their territory from illegal exploitation or encroachment. Declaring war on their region (western Bari) has already made things worse, chocking already the economic lifeline of Puntland. And if the conflict continues, it might take on another dimension, one that borders on retaliatory targets, ethnic cleansing, and further suspicion and hostility between clans. I have put forward a solution besides the elders' proposition. A clan reconcliation within the Bosasso region and a structural reform of the economic and political edifices of PL. If that is not posssible, then the case for every clan shifting for itself takes on legitimate position, that is we have to grant reer Galgala their God-given right to be masters of their own destiny over the control and administration of their affairs.

 

Second, the idea of Makhir, which you initially supported, could have become the basis of a new federal state, but it was dissolved by a man whose ambitions transcend the interest of his community despite the hopes and trust that his constituents invested in him.

 

But we shall see how things change.

[Beer-Gaal]

is it true that Jama Duale is being killed in Puntland Jail after his capture? that is what ihave been told.

[NASSIR]

We already have managed to pacify the sharif bloc and the little qanyare bloc will be lost without such backing from rra/yusuf garad ppl

Delusions of grandeur, but hillarious lol. Puntland Empire can sure "pacify" the above clan blocs.

[NASSIR]

Originally posted by Beer-Gaal:

is it true that Jama Duale is being killed in Puntland Jail after his capture? that is what ihave been told.

Of course, he was killed in jail. He was from a well-known family of Galgala District.

[Beer-Gaal]

Very sad indeed! extra judicial killing is not the way forward for Puntland!I knew the guy personally he grow up in Baargal he migrated from there recently.

[General Duke]

I am not sure there is anything sinister about crushing an enemy that wants to kill you by any means necessary. The fact that Al Shabab are using the local clan the same way they used local clans as a shield is obvious.

 

Your arguments again are baseless, there is no economic, or even a political dispute, other than the one you are trying to create. The topic was just to highlight the absurd use of language such as “indigenous” to divide what is a single family in order to message ones ego. The more this is turned into a clan issue, the more amusing it becomes, for come a few years you will be again claiming to be a Puntlander and waiting for another opportunity to make noise.

 

As for the previous mid-term syndrome , one should never oppose anything that's peaceful and based on arguments. However is it not fair to say that the same people who were pushing that argument forgot about it when the elections came?

 

Indeed we shall see , but history is something we can observe today.

 

Also Nassir how are you so sure the marxum was liquidated in jail and did not die from his injuries? Also what purpose would it serve for the admin who announced his capture to then kill him? Again less emotional outbursts and more honesty would do.

[Cowke]

Originally posted by Beer-Gaal:

Very sad indeed! extra judicial killing is not the way forward for Puntland!I knew the guy personally he grow up in Baargal he migrated from there recently.

Yeah the guy born and raised up in bargal he is from the ssdf clan and not makhiri as people think. You will need to research into yourself

 

But alot of the ssdf so called "yar-yar" are among the atam forces because they feel they are being persecuted in bari just like the makhiris in galgala feel.

 

Anyways god help m home region wallahi cadaalad xumada ma jecli ee waxan dhan waxaa keentay wa cadaalo xumo. The bari guys don't like PIS. Thats why they are all going into atam camp because the PIS targets makhiris and ssdf so called "yar-yars". They see atam as a way to crush the ashahado la dirir from the region. I think when farole was talking to galgala guys a couple of month ago they wanted the PIS to leave puntland and farole didnt accept that and hence the negiotation collapsed.

 

Anyways its quite hard but we cant get rid of the PIS because they are there protecting the region from terrorist but at the same time they do arrest and tribally profile people from yay-yar clan such as "ducale guy" who is from so-called ssdf yar-yar clan and same with alot of the galgala guys who are all squatting out in prisons of bosaso due to the PIS.

 

Thats whats caused this atam guy to rise up and gain such a force from the locals. But we will see but the PIS needs to get monitored to make sure it follows procedures. Its not good sign when many many ppl are complaining about the same issue always

[Jacaylbaro]

ssdf so called "yar-yar"

[General Duke]

cowke: well done injecting the right ammount of confusion in every post you make. No one cares for it Adeer.

Also keep the post at the top of the forum.

[N.O.R.F]

Is this conflict similar to the one between SL and some SSC?

[Chief_Aaqil]

No, this conflict is between dadka 'waaweyn' iyo 'yar yarka' wixii sooraaca.

[Beer-Gaal]

Cawke wax waalan ,,,waryaa any idea how this guy died? i heard he was shot by PIS!!!