The origin of the Somalis and the fallacy of clan based isir

[Xaruuri]

An interesting article on Somali Origin:

 

 

Qabaa’ilka Soomaalidu ma isbahaysi baa,

mise waa dhalasho?

 

"Waxase adag in la aamino ama waxa aynu odhan karnaa macquul ma aha dhawr wadaad baa qaran dhan sahal ku qabsaday muddo qaaban. Ama dhawrka Shiikh ee ay Soomaalidu sheegato iyo carruurtiisii baa ka adkaaday oo qaarna dadkii dalkan ka buuxay laayey, intii kalena bara kiciyey oo dhulkii ka qaaday. Midda kale waxa isweydiin mudan meeye dadkii diinta ay u laqimayeen ee dhexdooda diinta ka faafinayeen? Iyagii keliya iyo carruurtoodii baa dalkii oo dhan u hadhay, waa arrin aad cajiib u ah oo caqligu aanu qaadan karin!"

 

Halkan ka akhriso maqaalka oo dhan:

 

http://wardheernews.com/Articles_2010/April/Hirad/26_Qabaa'ilka_Soomaalidu_ma_dhalashaa.html

[NASSIR]

Hadana ma taariikhdeeni saxda aheed baa loo soo dhigtey. Dagaalka nalagula jiraa badanaa.

 

Please visit Maanhadal.com and read scholarly articles on the origin of Somali clans. Even Richard Burton believed the integrity of the oral transmission as opposed to written or recorded ones.

We seem to have developed the tendency--a pernicious one at that-- to discredit our oral historical transmission and credit western prejudices.

[Waaheen]

Waa caajaa'ib. Bal u fiirso keliya in ta qabiiloo ay 50 sanadood ee u dambeeyay qabiil cusub galay. Waa qoraal waa su'aalo badan u soo jeedianaya qofkii jecel in uu si caqli ku jiro wax u eego.

 

Richard Burton Soomaalida dhexdeeda wax uu joogay muddo gaaban, waxa aanu booqday dhul aan sidaa u badanayn. Goorma ayuu noqday marka an expert on Somali genealogy?

 

Waaheen

[Haatu]

Tolow kan qorey ma xabashi buu u shaqeeyaa?

[NASSIR]

Waaheen, you missed my sarcasm. Even as highly prejudiced as Burton was, he credited the oral history more than the written ones, and he wasn't referring to Somalis alone.

 

Some of his funniest quotes:

The half-famished Bedouins, Somal or Arab, think of nothing beyond the stomach,--their dreams know no higher vision of bliss than mere repletion. A single article of diet, milk or flesh, palling upon man's palate, they will greedily suck the stones of eaten dates: yet, Abyssinian like, they are squeamish and fastidious as regards food. They despise the excellent fish with which Nature has so plentifully stocked their seas.[32] "Speak not to me with that mouth which eateth fish!" is a favourite insult amongst the Bedouins. If you touch a bird or a fowl of any description, you will be despised even by the starving beggar. You must not eat marrow or the flesh about the sheep's thigh-bone, especially when travelling, and the kidneys are called a woman's dish. None but the Northern Somal will touch the hares which abound in the country, and many refuse the sand antelope and other kinds of game, not asserting that the meat is unlawful, but simply alleging a disgust. Those who chew coffee berries are careful not to place an even number in their mouths, and camel's milk is never heated, for fear of bewitching the animal. [33] The Somali, however, differs in one point from his kinsman the Arab: the latter prides himself upon his temperance; the former, like the North American Indian, measures manhood by appetite. A "Son of the Somal" is taught, as soon as his teeth are cut, to devour two pounds of the toughest mutton, and ask for more: if his powers of deglutition fail, he is derided as degenerate.

Of all the slave-dealers on this coast, the Arabs are the most unscrupulous. In 1855, one Mohammed of Muscat, a shipowner, who, moreover, constantly visits Aden, bought within sight of our flag a free-born Arab girl of the Yafai tribe, from the Akarib of Bir Hamid, and sold her at Berberah to a compatriot. Such a crime merits severe punishment; even the Abyssinians visit with hanging the Christian convicted of selling a fellow religionist. The Arab slaver generally marries his properly as a ruse, and arrived at Muscat or Bushire, divorces and sells them. Free Somali women have not unfrequently met with this fate.

[Waaheen]

Nassir:

 

Your point is well taken, but the fact remains the gentleman who wrote this piece has done his homework also and poses very valid arguments agianst the myth that Somalis are a nation that is few hundred years old.

 

Per some of his references, particularly those of the DNA research on Somali ethnicity prove beyound any doubt that we together with our fellow north east africans are a distinct race, different from both the Arabs and other fellow Africans.

 

The claim that we are the descendents of few Sheiks is just absurd. Check out also his evidences for changing clans. All in all I think it is an excellent piece on an area that is under researched.

 

Waaheen

[Xaruuri]

Haatu:

 

What has this got to do with Xabashi? You should read and hopefully you will learn a thing or two from it.

 

Xaruuri

[Haatu]

War you don't get it. That author is questioning our isir.

[NASSIR]

Waaheen, the author here as well has done his homework and he plodded the field even deeper to substantiate our venerated indigeneous history that spans more than 1000 years, not a few hundreds. Link

A polemic article like this one to deny others of their roots and thus their geneological nobility is an absurd case to defend same as results of the genetic study cited. Somalis aren't of one pure race but they have nevetheless evolved to become one big nation with common cultural and genetic characteristics, and that is what matters the most to our posterity.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

[Magac qabiil] ku fasira waa Gaalle oo dhan. Kuwa sidan dambe wax u tilmaamaa waa kuwa qaba in Soomaalidu ay Oromada asal ahaan ka soo jeeddo.

That was when he finally lost me. He, the author, seems wali inuuba fahmin micnaha 'gaal.' Marka muxuuba taariiq Soomaaliyeed wax ka qoraa hadduuba the basic meaning of 'gaal' garaneynin.

[Saalax]

The author seems confused.