King Koya Posted December 22, 2007 ------------------------------------------------ On 23rd of April 2006, Mr. Farah Mohamed Nur was killed in Mogadishu, Somalia. Farah was a Somali Christian, a member of the Evangelical Lutheran Church. He converted and was baptized in the year 2002, in Nairobi, Kenya and later in early 2005 went back to Somalia. Farah was on his way back from an interdenominational prayer fellowship with two others when someone with an automatic machinegun fired and killed them. We have not received yet the names of the two other believers who were members of a Pentecostal denomination. Farah and the two other believers’ killing is part of Al Qaid’s, and it’s allies, systematic campaign to eliminate all Christians from Somalia . Since the beginning of the civil war in 1991, Muslim organizations particularly Al Qaida and it’s partners in Somalia killed hundreds of Somali Christians and dozens of missionaries working in Somalia . Sheikh Suley, powerful sheikh’s in Mogadishu , declared in 1995 that to eliminate Christianity from Somalia is part of their plan to create a 100% Muslim populated Islamic state in Somalia . Please keep praying for the few hundreds of Somali Christians still remaining inside Somalia . ------------------------------------------------- I think a story like this is a SHAMEFUL act of Muslims toward Christians who always have showed so much LOVE to Muslims not only here in America but all over the world. When a Christian converts to Islam, christians don't kill him/her because everyone has a right to choose and not been forced by fear to remain in a certain religion especially when you see its actions are not right. Can you imagine if Christianity was as Islam especially here in America as it is in Somalia? Definitely there will be no Muslims (Somalians) in America enjoying freedom and wealth as to even send money home and let those in Somalia enjoy as well. Can the problems of Somalia be the very religion that it embraces? It doesn't make any sense when we have same language, same religion- Majority (99% of the whole country) yet can't even have a stable government. You will know a tree by its fruits, sweet/good or bitter/bad then you will make a choice to keep it or done away with it. GOD IS LOVE and SHEITAN IS HATE and you will know GOD by looking at the people and the religion they follow. Lets face matters like this in its entirety for most likely we will come to know the TRUTH and make our own personal decisions and not been lied by things like,” this is who we are" for truly if you end up in HELL you will suffer more for you had a chance to escape but afraid to take action. BE FREE AND LET NO ONE SCARE YOU. We all know right now what religion is causing much trouble around the world...it's your choice, make a decision and yes you will suffer now, or remain in fear and suffer later forever. I believe there are many Somalians here in America(Minnesota, Columbus) and Africa as well especially Kenya who have now decided to convert secretly after seeing for themselves were LOVE(TRUE GOD) is. Lets wake up and start searching the root of our religions probably we will find out the SPIRIT behind it, Is it Good or evil in nature. Search for yourself and don't just believe everything you are told, for this is the wake up call that we see and hear everyday in the news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted December 22, 2007 quote:Can the problems of Somalia be the very religion that it embraces? please do expand a little more....... u are christian somali/ethiopian right?ma habashi baad tahay, mise somali, mise oromo...mise ghost? meesha iska so dhex gashay.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted December 22, 2007 Oh yeah and that story is most probably false, there are no fellowships or services in Muqdisho..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nur Posted December 23, 2007 King Koya Couple of questions: Are you a Somali Christian? Are you a convert or a born Christian ? If convert, Can you tell us about how you have converted to Christianity? Thanks. Nur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted December 23, 2007 How many times do you have to post this and on how many sections... Flooding the site with such nonesense trash is against the rule... FYI, many Muslims die in Somalia too, well, the ratio of the Muslim death is greatly higher than this waaxid Gaal, Muslimiinta Ilaahay ha unaxariisto, Gaalkana isagay utaal waxa sugaaya... BTW, answer the questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seekknowledge Posted December 23, 2007 King Koya asked specific questions just answer him/her according to Islam. Why somalis always want to know the person's private life? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted December 23, 2007 well his questions are all over the place..... I mean, if he/she is a Christian trying to convert us to his religion, then he/she should be open and direct, ie say " this why I believe Christianity etc....". I fail to see how the death of a man can be used to say this is " truth". As for the rest of her/his post again it linked many different stories and issues together. Suppose that Americans and Christians really do love Muslims and have been so kind to us, what about the ones in Guantanamo or the ones who were slaughtered in Bosnia whilst the priests blessed the holy massacre? One can find many instances were Christians have been good to Muslims and vice versa. But one can also find many instances were Muslims have been bad to Chrisitians and vice versa... but still this has nothing to do with Truth or the fact that Somalia follows a particular religion or whatnot! One should not confuse the politics and nature of man with religous tendencies..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seekknowledge Posted December 23, 2007 He/she is here to spread Christianity or a confused dude trying to find answers to the last few doubts he/she has about Islam. The best way to deal with his/her provocation is to answer all the questions is posing with similar proofs from his/her own religion and others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warrior of Light Posted December 24, 2007 King koya, Life is sacred and every religion has its ruling regarding the sacredness of life. Muslims were killed in millions in the time of the crusaders. Muslim were made slaves and were sent to america who where later tortured and converted into christians. Todate million of Muslims were killed innocently in Palestine,Bosnia, Afganistan, Iraq and Somalia. So please dont play the innocent card. Everyone claims their religion is unique and tries to convert fellows into their folds. Islam has been around since the beginning of times, the religion of Adam later past on over the centuries. And Jesus, or as we call him Issa PBUH was a Prophet of God sent only to the children of Israel.His message was the same as the Prophets before to beleive in the unity of God. Unfortunately though this idea was polluted with the idea of Trinity . As God has his plans by His Grace the message was completed by Prophet Mohamed(PBUH) who was sent to all mankind. Thus once a Muslim leaves the folds of Islam is termed an outcast. Why, because how can a person who beleives in the Lord of the World start to beleive in the idea of multiple gods.It is pure blasphemy. And such a person faces a severe punishment on earth which is death. I dont know how true the story you posted is but if the person was a practising muslim and reverts so that is his punishment. Though the person is given a chance to reconsider his action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Koya Posted December 24, 2007 Warrior of Light! Don't struggle with religion, whatever name it is, because religion will never take you to heaven. Remember there are no multiple heavens; one for Muslims (were virgin girls will be given to those who die/kill for the cause of Islam), another for Hindus, another for Christians, another for Pagans etc. If you allow yourself to think and honestly ask your TRUE CREATOR about His true heaven and how to get there He will show you.Probably you don't even believe God can talk to you, what a sad thing ! Otherwise, continue to enjoy the ride that you are in were you are not driving and even your driver doesn't/didn't know were he is/was going, hopefully you will get to the destination that you think you will. You can jump off that ride now when you have a chance otherwise you are in for a surprise of your eternal life. l will never live a life were l am just hoping that when l stand before God in judgement day my good deeds will be greater than my bad deeds to go to heaven while there is a total assuarance now of living like if you are already in Heaven without fear of not being sure, just ask. Every one has a choice now for the TRUTH is calling night and day but many have decided to reject HIM in the name of religion. How can l follow a religion that even the founder of that religion did not know were he was going after death(not being sure)? It is like a blind man leading another blind man for surely all of them will fall in a ditch. THE CHOICE IS YOURs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Koya Posted December 24, 2007 Brother Nur send me a private message and l will explain to you...thanx 4 u'r concern. By the way... Can anyone tell me why do we have so many religions? and honestly without pulling on your side of religion, which religion today shows to have more direct acts of GODS LOVE(God touching men, like healing of the sick people, those who have been born blind given their sight back again, authority over sheytan-instead of believing there are good sheytans, etc) which intells that the one who created us loves us? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nehanda Posted December 24, 2007 King Koya For one you are all over the place walaal. Your arguments are weak. You seem unsure of your stance of that you portray wrong. Could it be you choose to be deaf and blind to the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted December 24, 2007 King Hoya, I bit of advise my friend. Can you please keep this discussion to this section only, as there is no real point in posting the same post and words in every section of the forum. People think it is another topic and then they read the same thing over and over again. I will let Nur have a pop @ your question! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Koya Posted December 24, 2007 Ok! GJ_Goate l will....my apology to everyone, thx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Koya Posted December 24, 2007 Nehanda.. Once you know the TRUTH, there is know place for blindness or deafness only a loving burning desire that ALL my people will know and be as l am. For Sheytan is and has been taking too many to Hell because of ignorance or purposefully refusing to accept the truth once the heart starts nugging that,"it might be true" All who decided to folow the TRUTH will be hated now in this life time, but be strong because JOY eternal is waiting for you. """ LOVE YOUR ENEMIES AND DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO HATE YOU """ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
