What the ICU (Al-Itaxaad) wants

[Allamagan]

^^ Walaalo annigu ma anan oran reer kismaayo ma jogaan Baydhabo. Ku noqo aqriska hore waxaan u jawaabayey saaxibkay Xoogsade oo lahaa meesha waxaa ku soo haray odaygii AY ahaa iyo darawishtiisi anna waxan ugu jawaabay cid walba waa joogaa madaama magac qabiil halkada la ogolayn ayaan un isticmaalay magaalooyin, markaa ku badalo qabiiloyinka meelaas aan magacaabay dega oo ka soo qaad in aay Baydhabo joogaan haba tirsi yaraadaane, sxb-key hadda ma kasino?

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Biixi, do you mean to say from ras kamboni to ras casyr because ras hafun is in puntland but casyr is on the border og jibuti. Illah ba og agendaha jahileentan shaikhyada ismoday but why does it matter. I can tell you they will have no effective administration outside of benadir and some villages in central somalia. Also, I think we can describe what have as a radical unsomali and even unislamic ideology but not agenda. The fact that they do not have a common agenda can be easly ascertained from that fact that every memeber counterdicts the other and their administraters have completely different rules for each place. for example, jat is illegal in kismayo but not in xamar.

[Xoogsade]

Allamagan

 

Waa iga qoslisay with the "abuukar baale" training af-guduud loool. Haye, abuukar baalahaan intee iga soo galaa mise waxaa ka wadaa yacni koo aan isku qabiil nahay oo calooshiis u shaqeeste waaye training the multi-clan soldiers of the TFG?

 

When it comes to the TFG, the diversity is in the parliament and in the ministerial positions but not in the TFG militia. Even if you would name some clans, they would be few compared to the many who are notably absent and who could give the TFG what it needs as an inclusive organization. May be you count warlord Qeybdiid being an entire clan(you mentioned reer hobyo) or qanyare's bodyguads and maxamed dheere's handful contributions as an apology for charging high rent to A/Y in his Jowhar days.

 

 

Jimcaale.

 

You are right, peace is the best option. Laakiin saxib, we always said islam is the solution and we have it now. How islam can unite people and solve their differences manifested itself in Muqdisho. Islam made such solution possible in Muqdisho. My fear is that the TFG as a clan based organization and system of governing will re-introduce the same ills and clan sentiments now tamed under the islamic laws. The TFG itself won't be effective in enforcing policies if some segment of the society deems the policies unjust or offensive to them for no apparent reason. Like what happened in Baydhabo and the ensuing violence. The locals in wherever the TFG rules will be resentful. The only effective method of governing somalis is islam.

 

Soomaalida xukunka aaday u jecel yihiin and they tie it to their success. See how some of us glow by A/Y's visits to china as if they are being honoured in some personal ways. Umadaan saxib islaam iyo in madaxa laga garaaco besaa lagu hayn karaa, haddii kale, it is back to clan fights and nin reer hebel ka dhashay nama xukumi karo ama saan ma yeeli karo. Somalis will never mature out of clan servitude. It is islam or permanent confusion. With the TFG's success and dominance, God have mercy on Somalis.

[Kashafa]

There will be no heeso, no saar, no shirib perhaps; no different gender mix in public, not even in public transportation; the imported, transplanted jilbaab and indhashareer will be mandatory; the hitherto proudly independent Soomaali women would be encouraged to stay at home; garka would be very encouraged, if not downright enforced; qamiis and cimaamad gaduud of Sacuudi-style will the de facto national dress code for men; the beautiful blue flag will be changed; the very Soomaali afkeena ah ayaa qatar gali doonto: "Shabaab, ukhtii/ukhii, amiir, abuu, ibnu, umm" has already made into vernacular, encouraged by them instead of Soomaali equivalent words inay ka isticmaalaan, in the last few months ee soo baxeen

continuation

 

"We will be invaded and and effectively emasculated by a foreign culture: that of the sayflabood shawarma-eating mushakal-drinking Abu Carab bin Carab-man Al-Acraabi. No longer shall my eyes feast on the curves of our women-folk, they will be hidden in black pieces of cloth imported from the desert. My mouth will soon forget the taste of a fresh jaat leaf. Alas!! Marqaanimo no more . Woe unto me that I, a true Somalian aabo ka aabo of Somalia, have lived to see such dastardly times. Sheeeekh Cabdul-qaadir Jaaaaylaaaniyooooooow, Balees Help me !!!!!! These shaykh-isku-sheegs tell me that it's wrong to worship you, to sacrifice thousands of ari, lo'o, and geel in thy Awliyo-astic name. Xaal ka ba !! Ma aniga iyo qaboor-caabud baala horstaagaa. Hell Nah, I make cash money off these Ziyaaro's yo. Hadee kaleeto, habaar culus aa kugu soo gamaa, nooh. Inkaarta Shaykh Cabdul-Qaadir gonna getcha, you gar-dheer'ing, sayflabood'ing, multi-wives marrying wahhabi"

 

Wallahi, these hyper-nationalistic 'Somalists' crack me up. Waa comedy session caadi ah when you see them discussing "Za Wahaabi threat". They mean well, waa dad patriotic ah, laakin principles-ka aa xoogaa ka wareersan.

 

Back to the basics: First, you are a Muslim. THEN and only then are you a Somali with all your dhaqan and fan and suugaan. Whatever traditions you got will be put under the Islamic microscope. Siyaaros(grave worship) and jaat-masticating(looks more like a cow chewing) won't qualify. Hence, they're trashed. Reject. Terminated. Adios, baby. On the other hand, our gabay and our macawees and gabarsaar, for example, pass with flying colours. Hence, waa OK. Two thumbs up, nooh.

 

Aqiyaar-ka, naga qaleey sxbow, fear-mongering ninka ragga woo ka fanaa. Scaring(xooooooox) nomads with visions of niqaabs and no music(lol, that's a killer) just doesn't cut it.

 

Another thing, I know what heeso(music) is, but whats saar and shirib ? Is it kinda like mingis ?

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

"We will be invaded and and effectively emasculated by a foreign culture: that of the sayflabood shawarma-eating mushakal-drinking Abu Carab bin Carab-man Al-Acraabi. No longer shall my eyes feast on the curves of our women-folk, they will be hidden in black pieces of cloth imported from the desert. My mouth will soon forget the taste of a fresh jaat leaf. Alas!! Marqaanimo no more. Woe unto me that I, a true Somalian aabo ka aabo of Somalia, have lived to see such dastardly times. Sheeeekh Cabdul-qaadir Jaaaaylaaaniyooooooow, Balees Help me !!!!!! These shaykh-isku-sheegs tell me that it's wrong to worship you, to sacrifice thousands of

ari

,

lo'o

, and

geel

in thy Awliyo-astic name. Xaal ka ba !! Ma aniga iyo qaboor-caabud baala horstaagaa. Hell Nah, I make cash money off these Ziyaaro's yo. Hadee kaleeto, habaar culus aa kugu soo gamaa, nooh. Inkaarta Shaykh Cabdul-Qaadir gonna getcha, you gar-dheer'ing, sayflabood'ing, multi-wives marrying wahhabi"

 

Yariisoow, dhaqan Soomaali waa kugu yaryahay, oo intee ku aragtay ii sheeg. Mise Carabihii aa ku kortay aa mooday dhaqan jano lagu galaayo inay heystaan.

 

This is dhaqan Soomaali Islaami ah waliba:

 

 

Not these Sacuudi-wannabe:

 

 

 

Soomaali women proudly had a culture, for example:

 

 

 

Not waxaan waxee yihiin aan la garan:

 

 

That is dhaqankaaga, practiced a thousand years by your own dadkaaga, kala baro. Dhaqan Carbeed aad ku kortay haku wareerin. It ain't no dhaqan of ours.

[Somali_Friend]

Yemen asked the same question of ICU and when Yemen could not find an answer, they told ICU to simply go away and never comeback without an open plan or objective that the Somali people should know.

 

There is no reason for ICU not to tell what they want for somalia.

[Taliban]

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar:

This is dhaqan Soomaali Islaami ah waliba:

 

You are in error. The koofiyad was copied from the Swahili of Zanzibar. The hoosgunti was copied from Southern Indians. The ookiyaal was, well, seriously, you can't claim it's Soomaali dhaqan. The shaati? Com'on, shaati can't be Soomaali dhaqan. Now, this is true Soomaali dhaqan: