Abwaan Posted December 11, 2006 «The whole of Africa minus the Somalia…» Publication time: Today at 11:41 Djokhar time Somali parliamentarians who are pro-islamic held a news conference in the capital Mogadishu to reveal a secret map smuggled out of the puppet “prime minister's” office in Baidoa. The map shows the whole of Africa minus the Somalia, which is "incorporated" into the new Ethiopia, which is a secret plan between the Somali pro-US puppet “government” and the Ethiopians. Few months ago prime-minister of Ethiopia Meles Zenawi in a party meeting promised his country five accesses to the sea via the Somali ports. The betraying puppet “prime-minister” is still out of the country (Somalia) with some of his loyal cabinet and so call “parliamentarians” currently in Nairobi, (Kenya). Meanwhile sporadic fighting still being reported in the villages close to the Manaas military camp as 25 fighter vehicles left Baidoa to the front line now nearly just 15km away from the vicinity of the only puppet "government" held town. Further 70 ethiopian and puppet former Jowhar warlord fighter vehicles are said to be on the move to clash with the Hiraan region's Islamic Courts in the centre of the country. Traffic suspension lifted The Islamic courts lifted civilian traffic suspension which was imposed yesterday, as they said no further conflict is expected in the roads between Mogadishu and Baidoa. KC and agencies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted December 11, 2006 The map was extremely misleading and childish attempt at scare tactic. There is a rule of law in this world, in what legitimate manner can Ethiopia gobble up the sovereign nation of Somalia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted December 11, 2006 Originally posted by HornAfrique: The map was extremely misleading and childish attempt at scare tactic. There is a rule of law in this world, in what legitimate manner can Ethiopia gobble up the sovereign nation of Somalia? Rule of law? Is there? If there is such rule of law, then it is not doing something about violations of Somalia's sovereignty and territorial integrity. Meles is trampling on Somalis and Somalia as he wishes and he has the blessing of the International Community which was meant to uphold the rule of international law. Sxb, 1946 Ethiopian representatives in Geneva have asked the UN to put the whole of Somalia under Ethiopian trusteeship. For those who were there (who wanted a greater Somalia - this includes Bevin's proposal of Greater Somalia) Ethiopia's ambitions were unexpectedly grand. A grand dream still kept alive by Meles for his own gains. Marka, I have this gut feeling that the so-called International community would want to get rid of this unruly nation (of Somalia) in whichever way deemed necessary, and that with that in mind, Meles is forever edging towards fulfilling these IC wish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted December 11, 2006 If you had noticed, Ethiopia was only able to admit it has troops within the boundary of the Somali Republic only after the Courts proved its claim to the world that the Courts are a direct threat to Ethiopia. Even because of the current circumstances, Ethiopia is still not legitimately able to admit it has troops in Somalia but was alleging few "hundred" military trainers even as of yesterday. Why is that do you think Paragon? I assumed you were much to intelligent to be asking simple questions Paragon. They need to stop scaring the unaware Somali mother, that's what they need to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted December 11, 2006 You guys have to give credit to the motivation factors of the ICU. What, with an Africa map that does not include Somalia this has to be big pulling power. Imagine how many people would side with the ICU cause they want to see Somalia back in the map. What a joke. If anything it shows that the ICU policy makers actually think low of the Somali intellect level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted December 11, 2006 how low can these people go? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somali_Friend Posted December 11, 2006 Originally posted by Juje: You guys have to give credit to the motivation factors of the ICU. What, with an Africa map that does not include Somalia this has to be big pulling power. Imagine how many people would side with the ICU cause they want to see Somalia back in the map. What a joke. If anything it shows that the ICU policy makers actually think low of the Somali intellect level. Juje, What the ICU are missing is that, these kind of big untruths work for a very limited time. If the ICU did not succeed in that limited time doing something very grand that can make people forget and get occupied by another new grand thing, then people question the sincerity and credibility. From there on its downhill. I don't think the ICU realizes how much the Fartaag moment and false announcements cost them in credibility. Before that incident most people would have accepted that Wadaads will tell something closer to truth or truth abut incidents. Not anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted December 11, 2006 Originally posted by HornAfrique: If you had noticed, Ethiopia was only able to admit it has troops within the boundary of the Somali Republic only after the Courts proved its claim to the world that the Courts are a direct threat to Ethiopia. Even because of the current circumstances, Ethiopia is still not legitimately able to admit it has troops in Somalia but was alleging few "hundred" military trainers even as of yesterday. Why is that do you think Paragon? I assumed you were much to intelligent to be asking simple questions Paragon. They need to stop scaring the unaware Somali mother, that's what they need to do. Adeer, Horn, only if you knew the complexity of these supposedly simple questions, waxbaad garwaaqsan lahayd. Balse, Insha-Allah, mar kalaan taa ka sheekeeysan doonnaa. There are things deemed 'too obvious to be true or to be done'. At times their over-simplications come with the worst consequences. Sidey noqotaba, markuu waaga ifo, ishu araggaa u macalin ah sxb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted December 11, 2006 I thought somalia was not basically on the map for 16 years ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what is new now ?? I've seen the said map and was laughing like a crazy dog ,,,,, it was badly created with photoshop ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somali_Friend Posted December 11, 2006 Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: how low can these people go? It seems the ICU is so desperate, they even overused Shiek Ahmed, a person who was given the benefit of doubt by Somalis. The ICU is throwing everything at the TFG, this would be considered the kitchen sink. Selfishness and greed does that to the ambitious, but incapable to wait. When politicians are in a hurry to hide bad news they bring something so low you never expect it from them. So much for acting Wadaad. At some point the truth had to come out that these ICU folks are driven by human greed and selfishness like anyone. No more hiding it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmed_Guree Posted December 11, 2006 ^^^ Applause! applause!How excellent you describe your cronies who are clinging to power in Addis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted December 31, 2006 So, afterall, the map had some ressemblance to the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted January 11, 2007 Originally posted by Horn: Even because of the current circumstances, Ethiopia is still not legitimately able to admit it has troops in Somalia but was alleging few "hundred" military trainers even as of yesterday. Why is that do you think Paragon? I assumed you were much to intelligent to be asking simple questions Paragon. Originally posted by Paragon: Adeer, Horn, only if you knew the complexity of these supposedly simple questions, waxbaad garwaaqsan lahayd. Balse, Insha-Allah, mar kalaan taa ka sheekeeysan doonnaa. There are things deemed 'too obvious to be true or to be done'. At times their over-simplications come with the worst consequences. Sidey noqotaba, markuu waaga ifo, ishu araggaa u macalin ah sxb. Horn, what do you say now? You oversiplified the issue and found the erasing of Somalia off the map as too obvious (unintelligent to percieve). But then again Ethiopia's actions only proved the truth in the claim of those MPs who spoke against the PM's plans. If it is not too obvious, I would not be surprised if Ethiopia decides to re-desgin the Somali flag to erase the evidence of our claim to Somali Galbeed. PS: Lol. You didn't picture things to turn out this way, horn? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 11, 2007 All is good as long as Horn's warlord Hiiraale is back in Kismayo. The bloodletting, and invasion is therefore not just justifiable, but necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted January 11, 2007 ^^ Che- I don't think Horn's uncle would have an easy ride in Kismaayo. Judging from the opposition he currently faces from the majority of Kismaayo residents, he's better off going to Mogadishu as a Defence Minister, before he loses even that . Horn thought not paying attention to the obvious is called intelligence! Using the most obvious tactics has brought many strategists lots of victory and fortune; doing the very thing that even the fool things is too obvious to be attempted! Horn, fell for the too obvious and today Ethiopians circumvent his uncle's control in Kismaayo's Dekeda iyo magaaladuba. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites