Juje Posted June 7, 2007 Duke sxb the problem with you is you are in a round about with no exit at all. To get facts right , none of the following - Maxamed dhere, Qeybdiid, Yeey, et al and their troops fought against the ICU. They were all guides, leading the Ethiopans - the war was between the ICU against the Ethiopians financially and logistically backed by the US. So give credit where it is due. To the topic - you yourself accepted Buuba messed with the family. As for your logics regarding Maddobe and Hiraale - how come none of them has a post now..where is the balance u talk about? Runta ha iska indhatirin...adeerka laf cad ayu tobin ku haya. Bal Maxamed dhere mesha aad ka gashan aan aragno. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted June 7, 2007 ^^^Adeer Geedi and Yey are not at odds about the trivila things you presented. They agree on policy and the idea that you present which you keep rehashing of Yey not being in control is a joke. Yey is the President of Somalia and the man who is behind the steering wheel. Give credit to Ethiopia, the clan in Mogadishu, Geedi or who ever you like the fact is that "the golden" age of the past 16 years is over. As for Mohamed Dheere, what is he other than the mayor who handed his weapons over and now works with the otehr institutions of the nation like the Police, Army and NSS. Think beyond the box and stop repeating the nonsence one hears from lay people. This governemnt startegy is security, security, security. Everything else will come in due time insha Allah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by The Duke: Think beyond the box and stop repeating the nonsence one hears from lay people. I'm 'lay people' ofcourse and I have no problem with that. At least aniga lama shir imado...."buuba messed with the family" and then claim this is a government. I wonder what sort of intellectual status you need to produce such a logic, certainly not a lay men . Furthermore I repeated again and again that Yeey had nothing to with the appointment of Dhere and Qeybdiid - two individuals who are making all the sounds now - and you countered nothing with that. Plus mid kale aan kugu daro, Zenawi held court with these two figures in his 'governor-house' (what you call embassy) and not in Villa at the presence of the head of the state. bal adeer wacoo, se wax uu jiraan warso. I will let you into another secret as well, Qanyare and Muse Sudi are in the wings and will be allocated with ministerial portofolios soon - watch this space. War ma heysiid nin-yahow meshana xiiqdi ka dhamatey ---mar dhow waxa laga cabsana in Puntland ay go'do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted June 7, 2007 , YOu are a funny man Sxb managa bajinaysaana? Waxaad is tiri nimankaan waa reerka Old man-ka ee xoogaa cabsii... lol @ Puntland way go'aysaa soon Adigu waligaa reer reer ufakar!, Somalia way duushay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted June 7, 2007 Adeer all politics is local, Buuba and Geedi fell out due to a power struggle which centred on the mans choice for Kenyan envoy. The PM has a right to defend his choices and to demote anyone he wants. Though he will ahve to deal with the repurcussions. Adeer you dont have a clue let alone state secrets. For you highlighted the ignorance of the matter with this post. The fact is in the parliment headed by Sh Adan Madoobe to the ministries and the police, NSS, Army its Yey who calls the shots. Thus the old man has said it he will continue to build the foundations of the state. mar dhow waxa laga cabsana in Puntland ay go'do And he takes himself seriously. As for Qaynyare and Yalaxow we will note your prediction, of them coming back, when will it be ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XOG-ogaal Posted June 7, 2007 Juje our buddy duke will never except that. Geddi is trying to play his card right just like yey did dowlad gobaleed which is run by his tribe . qabiilka uu kadhashay ayuu rabaa in uu isticmaalo just like you sudi and qanyare will get their post soon and yey can't stand that qanyare as we all know so will see where this goes. Emperer Puntland way go'aysaa soon that is the only thing that yey can bargin with Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by The Duke: The fact is in the parliment headed by Sh Adan Madoobe to the ministries and the police, NSS, Army its Yey who calls the shots. Thus the old man has said it he will continue to build the foundations of the state. There you again, 'kabta afka kala so bax saxiib... Madoobe...ministers..parliamentarians..police and etc. you centre it down to your adeer "calling the shots". Inta kale maxay yihiin , ma xaba? Saxiib adeerka mesha waxba kuma haayo - it is Geedi's show and he is under the orders of Meles. Weliga xanaaq hadi rabtiid. Maxamed dheere oo dhahaya 'odeyga afka-qurmoon' war badana waad arki doonta.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted June 7, 2007 No the rest are his subordinates, he is the big boss, get that. Take a word from Bush he is the decider The President brought Geeddi into this game, he gave the warlords a chance and then sacked them those who reformed like Dheer and Qaybdeed got their clans positions and some tough tasks, those who became irrelevent were briefed and then went on their business. He moved Sharif Xasan and brought in his man Madoobe Mohamed Dheere insulted the President in Jowhar and now works for him in Mogadishu, Yusuf is bigger than personal vendeta. He deals with people in a much better way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by The Duke: No the rest are his subordinates, he is the big boss, get that. Take a word from Bush he is the decider "habar walba xaarkey dhasho ayey Xaayo tirah.." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XOG-ogaal Posted June 7, 2007 No duke Mdheere believes that he controls the state of banadir ? which means he pays his share tax to the FED and he is the president of that gobol just like cade is ? 2Million live in mogdisho image how much money gedi and mdhree will get with out hte interfirance of yey ? hmmmmm just say it abaahi siwaaniyo gayigaygoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted June 7, 2007 The beauty of the siuation is that there will federations with President like Cade, though the locals have to agree to it and elect their leaders just like Cade was elected. Though M-Dheere is governor of Bandir and Mayor of Mogadishu, just like there are governors of Bari, Nugaal, Sool and mayors of every major city in Puntland. But there is only one President of Puntland HE Cade Muse Hersi I am the first to support the creation of these states across Somalia. And Mohamed Dheere can run for such an office, will he be elected? Thats up to the locals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted June 7, 2007 Originally posted by The Duke: Though Cade is governor of Bandir and Mayor of Mogadishu, just liek there are governors of Bari, Nugaal, Sool and mayors of every major city in Puntland. Xaasha..! Xaad tiirina? Horey ayan uu sheegey in aad isku dhex-yacdey. I knew there was rift between Yeey and Maxamed Dhere, but I didnt know it involved you , to the point where you give his seat to the 'Thief of Puntland'... I'm loving this..... And what is Xabsade's role in Banadir region if you dont mind me asking you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted June 7, 2007 ^^^Now you get excited over typo's? It matters not Dheere is doing a fine job cleaning Mogadishu of the bandits what ever they may call themselves "speakers of the clan" or Looters Inc or courts or warlords. Gen Qaybdeed has also to be commended for his performance thus far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted June 7, 2007 Illeen meeshaan wacdaraa igu dhaafay, Duke haye Juje cut and paste xitaa waa kaa hor istaagey haye? Dood aadan jawaabteeda hayn buu ku geliyey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted June 7, 2007 ^^^lol@ the desperation, Juje is ok, he is just upset that Yey seems to have outsmarted all his leaders, hero;s and so on, from Sudi, to Qaynyare, Sharif Xasan, Ato and so on. He was not a fan of the courts, but then his hero Qaybdeed fel into line. Now he and yourself's only hope is that there is a fight between the TFG or Mohamed Dheere spoils things, we all live in hope Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
