Puntlanders turn more hawkish- A new republic must emerge

[General Duke]

Maantana balaan Reer Puntland guud ahaan war ogeysiiyo W/Q:Aadan Diiriye.

Posted to the MOL July 11, 2009, 12:32 pm

 

Soomaaliya waxaa muuqata in xaggeedii koofureed ay u gacan galayso Cudurka iswadka aan u aqaan ee Soomaaliya faraha ba'an hadda ku haya: Waa Alqaacida iyo midiidinkeeda ay ku adeegato ee Alshaab Nabad iyo Dawlad Soomaaliyeed diidka ah, sidii qof la soo sixray oo

u jahaadaya burburinta iyo cadow gacanta u galinta dalkiisii: Oo aad mooddo inay leeyihiin Aabbow Oosaama Ben Ladinow kaalay haddii dalkaagii lagaa eryey Soomaaliya qaado,oo na cabdiiso, dadka intiisa kalena birta iyo xabbadda ku layso!!! Tixraac murti hore:( Idinna yaabte annana yaabnay oo laysla wada yaabye, Waa yaabka yaabkiisa kale waxaad la yaabteene!!!) Ragow nin damiir lihi gumaysi ma doontaa?!

 

Marka anigoo haddana ku halqabsanaya tix hore oo ahayd: Wax la waayey Geellow ninkii waalan baw duda e: Sow reer Puntland miyi iyo magaalaba haatan ma fahmin in Caasimadii Muqdisho iyo Gobollada Alshabaabku qaatayba inaysan rajo dambe oo Soomaaliyeed lahayn illaa Shacabka ****** iwm ay Alshabaab iyo Alqaacida ay dalkooda ka xoreeyaan mooyaane? Mase intay ayaguna gumoobaan bay gacmaha taaganahayaan? Maya maya, bay ila tahay: Allow ha ku jirrabin cawaaqib xumadaas foosha xun, diin la'aanta bidcada ah, gunnimada cusub ah, Aamiin, aamiin, aamiin!!!

 

Hadda iyo Danta Puntland ka hadal kaliya: Maxay tahay?( What is it?) Waa aayahooda ha ka tashadaan: Jamhuriyadda Puntland( Republic of Puntland)>

 

Run iyo Roobba lagama raysto:

 

Haddii Alshabaab iyo Alqaacida ay gabi ahaanba qabsadaan Muqdisho, Kismaayo, Baidhabo, Jowhar iyo Gedo, Magacii Soomaaliga halkaas ayuu dhacmaye, in Reer Puntland u baroortaan ma ku habboon tahay?, Hadday u Jamhuriyad la'aadaanna sow aqoon darro iyo nasiib darro isbiirsaday maaaha? Labaatan sano ka badan Soomaali-diidka Koofureed ma u dulqaadan kartaan, ama ma u Jamhuriyad la'aanaysaan? Maxaa murunka qoorta kuu suray? hase yeeshee aan Allaah sina idiinku kallifin. Anigu madaxda Reer Puntland ayaan eedda dusha uga turahayaa haddaysan garan khatarta ay leedahay Jamhuriyad la'aanta Puntland, waayo waxay garan waayeen waa wax waajib ku ah oo ahayd, inay mar kaliya shacabka ay xukumaan u dhammaystiraan guushii 1dii Agoosto, 1998, ay gaareen ee ahayd aasaaskii Dawlad goboleedka Puntland intii ka dhimanayd (ka hartay)ee ahayd: Xaquuqda/darajada ah:

Dawladda Jamhuriyada Puntland ee Geeska( without the doomed Somali nickname, forget aboutit, for you will not be able to revive it any longer!! )

 

Sidaas ayaa idiin eg Reer Puntland-ow,marka ay meesha ka baxdo wixii Soomaali ay isugu imaan lahaayeen, kuna sii warraaqi lahayeen dhawr ayaamood kaasoo ahaa FEDERAALKA ayna maanta ii inuu isaguna inuu Muqdisho ka sii galbanahayo!!!

 

Wa ALaahu Aclam.

 

Aadan Diiriye.

[General Duke]

 

Faroole oo ka hadlaya Federaalka,dhinacyad a Xamar isku haya Dhegayso

 

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[xiinfaniin]

Originally posted by General Duke:

Anigu madaxda Reer Puntland ayaan eedda dusha uga turahayaa haddaysan garan khatarta ay leedahay Jamhuriyad la'aanta Puntland, waayo waxay garan waayeen waa wax waajib ku ah oo ahayd, inay mar kaliya shacabka ay xukumaan u dhammaystiraan guushii 1dii Agoosto, 1998, ay gaareen ee ahayd aasaaskii Dawlad goboleedka Puntland intii ka dhimanayd (ka hartay)ee ahayd: Xaquuqda/darajada ah:

Dawladda Jamhuriyada Puntland ee Geeska( without the doomed Somali nickname, forget aboutit, for you will not be able to revive it any longer!! )

 

Sidaas ayaa idiin eg Reer Puntland-ow,marka ay meesha ka baxdo wixii Soomaali ay isugu imaan lahaayeen, kuna sii warraaqi lahayeen dhawr ayaamood kaasoo ahaa FEDERAALKA ayna maanta ii inuu isaguna inuu Muqdisho ka sii galbanahayo!!!

 

Wa ALaahu Aclam.

 

Aadan Diiriye.

desperate call for seccession, straigh out of the shelter that houses the politically orphaned.

 

Puntland is Somalia

[Fiqikhayre]

This will indeed surface, if things don't improve quickly. Puntland will not just sit there idle waiting for Hamar to better itself.

 

Inshallaah it's all about time now. We can't continue like this anymore.

 

Aw Muuse Ismaciil

[xiinfaniin]

Oh I forgot, the unity theme espoused by Faroole himself

[Fiqikhayre]

What do you suggest xiinfaniin, if things continue the way they've been in the last two decades in the south of the country.

 

What other alternatives do you have sxb? Please evaporte if you may? Will you.

[General Duke]

Somalia: For Puntland, the future cannot be held hostage

7 Jul 7, 2009 - 6:45:04 PM

 

SUNDAY EDITORIAL | The people of Puntland have decided their destiny. Federalism is the only option. [This from the close Faroole site[/b][/i]

 

The Italian colonialists chose Mogadishu as the seat of power during the 19th century, when they conquered much of Somali-inhabited territories in the Horn of Africa region. As such, Mogadishu's status as "the" Somali capital is not sacrosanct. The bloodthirsty monsters who have transformed Mogadishu – once one of Africa's most beautiful seaside capitals – into a war zone where ordinary women and children are prey do not want Mogadishu to return to normalcy because, under normal conditions, such merciless killers would become outcasts in any civilized society.

 

The story of Mogadishu in the post-1991 era does not offer any solution to the Somali conflict. Mogadishu only offers death beds, fleeing families and brainwashed youth fighting each other over graves. A glimmer of hope flickered in 2006 when the Islamic Courts Union (ICU) overthrew the warlord-rulers, whose limitless savagery caused a civil war and led to the collapse of the Somali nation-state. The ICU used all means to secure Mogadishu's streets from the killers and the rapists, bringing the semblance of law and order to the capital's war-weary citizens who yearned for lasting peace and development. And then the Ethiopian invasion, followed by the accusations of war crimes, mass graves and mass displacement – a dreaded return to the cycle of death made notorious by the warlord-rulers of the 1990s. But after the Ethiopians withdrew, many Somalis hoped for another glimmer of hope that would end the bloodshed and restore order. More bloodshed has ensued among Somalis.

 

A war class has emerged in Mogadishu after two decades of civil war. Essentially, what you have is thousands of mercenaries changing alliances, depending on which faction has got the upper hand. Among all this, the U.N.-backed Transitional Federal Government (TFG) – oddly, it now calls itself the 'Government of National Unity' – remains to be an active, albeit weak faction. Its main components include former ICU officials, notorious ex-warlords and every opportunistic thug the Somali nation has ever known!

 

The Puntland administration in northern Somalia cannot be held hostage by Mogadishu. In this dangerous environment, and during these dangerous times, the international community would be ill-advised to compel Puntland to come under the authority of a Mogadishu run by murderous thugs. History tells us that the people of Puntland had a single functioning authority before the Italian colonialists came; hence, the rich political culture in Puntland where a military figure (Gen. Adde Muse) peacefully stepped down after loosing a hotly contested election to an academic (Dr. Abdirahman Farole). On a continent (Africa) plagued by election violence and military coups, the 2009 election placed Puntland at the forefront of civil governance and dedication to a new, safer future.

 

It can be stated that the international community is confused by the complex web of political alliances and history of Somalia. But in studying Puntland, the world can get access to the experiences of the Puntland people before and during the Somali civil war. For example, the first Islamist uprising in post-collapse Somalia occurred in Puntland; indeed, brothers fought each other over ideology in the cities of Garowe and Bossaso. Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, the architect behind the rise of the ICU in 2006, was the chief proponent of the Islamist uprising in Puntland during the early 1990s. That violent conflict was resolved through a combination of war and community dialogue.

 

As a case-study, Puntland offers the world historical references and fresh ideas in understanding the complex civil war in Somalia. Puntland has invested massively in attempting to rescue Mogadishu from the ruins of conflict and self-destruction. The people of Puntland have sacrificed their sons, properties and financial resources with the aim of erecting a strong foundation for a Transitional Federal Government (TFG). While former Puntland strongman Abdullahi Yusuf was TFG President (2004-2008), the Puntland regions suffered as the people's tax money was spent on the Mogadishu war front and public services such as security deteriorated in Puntland.

 

The people of Puntland have decided their destiny. Federalism is the only option to save Somalia. Nothing short of a federal government structure will be acceptable. Long gone are the days when a student from Puntland would travel 1,000km to attend secondary school in Mogadishu.

 

Finally, Puntland is a barrier against the menace in the south-central regions. Those who destroyed Mogadishu would not blink to destroy Puntland, Somaliland, and extend their violent reach to neighboring countries like Ethiopia and Yemen. Supporting the governance structures already in place in Puntland is by far a wiser investment than supplying weapons to the 'Government of National Unity' in Mogadishu, as the U.S. Government did a few weeks ago.

 

Bad move.

[Taleexi]

We cannt accept PL calling for secession ya Aw Musa

[General Duke]

The interest of Puntland with nearly 3 million Somali’s and covering 1/3 of Somalia, far outweighs the selfish interest of the illegitimate sons of Sharif Hotel.

[Fiqikhayre]

Not total secession maybe but I want a declaration of strong government we already have in place in Puntland State, if things continue the way they have been, then we will limit ourselves to the Prime Minister Position or that of other and only partially deal with any government as I would declare it insane for any Puntlander to start a new Project in the south.

 

We've all we need in Puntland State, now is the time for us to sit out this Sharif and nonsense in Hamar. To take a pause of all of it and focus on our internal issues, only giving minimal lip-service support to this trasitonal government, which they deservce.

 

Puntland is already on its way but things will not quickly improve in the south and I'll await the day where Puntland establishes strong autonomity which they already do.

 

Puntland State is a reality already. We can't and will not wait for Hamar as this is something we cannot accept.

[General Duke]

The debate has started, and a rethink is in order. The republic should no longer be held hostage by a few.

 

Dadweyihii kasoo dhiibtay Fikradooda Astaanta Cusub ee Puntland yeelaneyso>>>>

 

Talaado 30 Jun 2009

 

 

 

 

waxaan aad uga xunahay dadbadan oo soo gudbiyay fikirkooda inaan akhrin kari waynay qoraldaado, halka qaarkalena uuba noo furmi wayay attach-ka, marka saas ha ula socden qofkii iska waaya Liska.

 

ilaa 01.07.09 qofkii iska waaya Liska wuu soo gudbin karaa fikradiisa hadii alle idmo....

 

 

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[xiinfaniin]

Aw Muse Puntland will not succeed because some people are angry, that is what happened in the North. Tell your friend Duke that Puntland is the glue that holds somalia together

[Fiqikhayre]

I just want for Puntland to declare the Djibouti outcome as none and void and refuse any 'nation-building' or 'national government' building conference held outside the home country.

 

I want Puntland to boycott it and list what was wrong with the hijacked Djibouti outcome and the involvement of Ahmedou Walad Abdalla who is responsilbe for all the blood-shedding now in Hamar.

 

Only we can and will accept national reconciliation conference held inside Puntland either Bosaso or Garoowe.

 

We should already plan this in advance and tell the bankrupted so-called International Community regarding our concerns.

 

We will not and cannot accept any less. Puntland is the mother of Somalia, We brought the flag. May allaah bless Mohammed Cawaale Libaan.

 

SYL was from us majority, the fight and struggle for Somalia was us but if Somalinimo has been refused and abused by those in the south and north-west than we will not further look for it, because why should we frankly, in this insanity of ours?

 

Answer this Mansa Muna.

[General Duke]

 

Two main options, the first a strong government temporarily detached from south Somalia, looking out for its interest, security, education economic development and provision of services for rural isolated communities.

 

The second, Puntland declares itself the republic of Somalia, calls UN and international players to set up base in Garowe, and develops its infrastructure and takes custody of the Somalia until the south comes out of coma. Basically Puntland will have to gain Power of attorney over Somalia since the south and Mogadishu can not function mentally at this moment.

 

Both options are feasible and do not mean secessionist of the anti-Somaliweyn branch. We can not and will not accept the status quo and Puntland has the strength to recover the lost Somali name. Enough is enough.

[SayidSomal]

dhulka fooxda is not piece of cake to be bargained with by the brain dead.