child rapist

[QabiilDiid]

Originally posted by Nayruus:

Some people have attached advantage to the colonial conquest of Africa to the African natives. If one can argue there are benefits for Somali people of their mass exodus to the West, it is the appearance of the social ills like the following to the DAYLIGHT. Accusations and confessions like this would never have come out to the public awareness if the crime took place in Somalia especially when the abuser is a famous poet.

 

This is an example of the part of our culture that I hate the most. The perceived dignified prestige and the high social standing of the individual are above everything else including the law of the land and the words of ALLAH. If they have iota of moral standing, how could a group of supporters rallied in defense of a self-admitted child rapist?

 

“We need a constitution that is above any individual however powerful that person is†Axmed Ismaaciil Samater..

 

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Somali poet charged in '95 rape of 10-year-old

Accuser taped his confession, complaint says

BY EMILY GURNON

Pioneer Press

January 5, 2006

In his home country of Somalia, he was a prominent poet and playwright who wasn't afraid to challenge the corrupt regime.

Now, years after he arrived in the Twin Cities, Mahamud Abdullahi Isse, 70, is facing charges that he raped a 10-year-old girl at her Minneapolis home in 1995. His supporters say the accusations must be false.

The alleged victim, who was not named in a complaint filed Tuesday in Hennepin County District Court, is now 20 and living in Washington state.

She told police last month that Isse visited her guardian at their home in 1995 after she had arrived in Minneapolis from Somalia, according to the complaint. He brought the youngster candy and treats but later crawled into her bed, fondled her and had sex with her, she told police.

Isse was charged with first-degree criminal sexual conduct. He posted bail Saturday.

His attorney, Richard J. Cohen of St. Paul, said Isse would plead not guilty.

Omar Jamal of the Somali Justice Advocacy Center in St. Paul said that Isse, who has lived in the United States for about 10 years, is a beloved and highly respected member of the Somali community.

He was invited to address a Somali studies conference in 1999 at York University in Toronto, where he was described as a "popular Somali poet and dramatist."

A group of Isse supporters rallied Tuesday night outside the Hennepin County Jail. Jamal said some members of the community believe political enemies are framing Isse.

"My gut feeling is that he's innocent. But I will let the criminal justice system determine that," Jamal said.

Isse's accuser told police that when she saw Isse at the Somali Mall during a visit to Minneapolis in December, he gave her his phone number and said he wanted to see her again, according to the criminal complaint.

She called Isse and tape-recorded a conversation in which he admitted having sex with her when she was a child, the complaint said.

After police found Isse at the mall, he confirmed that he had admitted the sexual contact in the phone call but said "it was only a joke." He ultimately admitted to police that he had fondled the girl, the complaint said. Isse is scheduled to appear in court Jan. 31.

Emily Gurnon can be reached at

egurnon@pioneerpress.com

or 651-228-5

Source: Pioneer Press, Jan. 05,2006

 

Good riddance and burn in hell child repist :mad:

[Faarax-Brawn]

Originally posted by Rowda:

"Yac" comment? how is that relevent to this situation sxb?? Markii bari loo heeso ayuu boorame katumaa!! The Yac comment was meant for ppl in the north regarding the D.C. case where a lot of reer waqoyi ppl got insulted although he said that was not his intention. If u're from MN then u know the girl has nothing to do with the waqoyi region.

 

Last I checked the Somali Mall was not the gathering place for the intellectuals in fact they are called Doqoma waaye.

Actually no one knows YET. Some of my Northern freinds are saying she is from the North. Others are saying her momma is from the North. All in All they(Singubs Tol) are saying this is all from his earlier comment about the Ali Samatar Case.In anycase you dont have to be from the same clan to want to get someone in trouble.

 

Also, they are saying the 20yr Age is her Sharci AGE & that her real age at the time was not 10yrs(Go figure)

 

If and when he is prooven guilty, thats when we will need to judge the Abwaan.

[Duufaan]

"Last I checked the Somali Mall was not the gathering place for the intellectuals in fact they are called Doqoma waaye. "

 

Interesting that you consider intellectual by yourself and others here including me! Do not you think that is not intelligent comment? The case is now the forum adm. I can definitely say you are doqon

[Duufaan]

the story could different as you may read

hadhwanaagnews.com

this is idmaale version

Abwaan Maxamuud Ciise Cabdullahi Sangub oo isagu ah Abwaan Soomaaliyeed oo aad Qaali u ah ayay Waxmagarato Maangaab ahi u Dhigeen Shirqool ay kula dagaalamayaan balse ku guuldaraystay, iyaga oo dhinaca kalena ku Guulaystay in ay Cuqdada iyo xumaanta ku jirta banaanka soo dhigaan.

Posted to the Web Jan 05, 04:43

 

 

Abwaan Maxamuud Ciise Cabdullahi Sangub oo isagu ah Abwaan Soomaaliyeed oo aad Qaali u ah ayay Waxmagarato Maangaab ahi u Dhigeen Shirqool ay kula dagaalamayaan balse ku guuldaraystay, iyaga oo dhinaca kale ku Guulaystay in ay Cuqdada iyo xumaanta ku jirta banaanka dhigaan.

 

Abwaan Sangub ayaa ah isagu nin ay Soomaalinimadu ku dheertahay,hal'abuur badan, kaftan badan, sheeko badan,xigmad madan, lehna Taariikh lama ilaawaan ah iyo sumcad uu Soomaalida dhexdeeda ka kasbaday.

 

Waxmagaratadan abwaanka shirqoolka u shigtay ayaa iyagu Horay calankeenii Soomaaliyed ugu gubay Caasumada Labaad ee Soomaaliya waa Hargaysee, iyaga oo Marwalba la dabataagan Shacabka Soomaaliyeed iyo Waxgaradkoodaba hagardaamo iyo dhibaatayn.

 

Abwaan Maxamuud Cabdullaahi Ciise Sangub ayaan shaki ku jirin in uu Mudan yahay Bilad Dahab ah, ama Halyeey Qaran taasoo uu ku mutaystay Midnimada Soomaaliyeed ee uu u dagaalamo Maalinwalba.

 

Abwaanka ayaa horey u sheegay in weerar lagu yahay oo ay dabasocdaan niman uu laba xaas ah ka qabo, isagana dhalay isaga oo kaga dalbday TV Soomaalida oo dhami ay Dunida Dacaleeda ka daawanaysay, in ay ka haraan Maadaama aanu ladagaalamikarayn oo uu Naskoodiina jaqay, Caruurna ay u dhaleen. 

 

Abwaanka ayaa ku guda jiray Riwaayad uu doonayay in uu ka dhigo 17states oo Dalka Maraykanka ah, taasoo uu ugu talagalay in uu wixii ka soo baxa ugu tabaruco Dawlada federaalka ah ee Soomaaliyeed, waxa uu dhinaca kale Marwalba u taagnaa Midnimada Soomaaliyeed, isaga oo Cambaarayn dusha uga tuuray nimankii Gubay Calankii Soomaaliyeed ee isaga Maanta dabataagan.

 

Abwaanku waxa uu Taageero aan kala harlahayn siiyay Jeneraal Maxamed Cali samatar oo ah Jeneraal Umada Soomaaliyeed Sharaf iyo Magac ku leh, oo ay waxmagaratada maanta Sangub daba socdaa ay isku dayeen in ay shirqool dacwo ku soo oogaan balse ku guuldaraystay.

 

Shirqoolka Abwaanka loo dhigay ayaa ah mid lagu qoslo oo maanta hadii ay ahaan lahayd Dalkeenii Hooyo, uu qofkii dacwadaa la yimaada Xabsi ku mutaysan lahaa, maadaama ay tahay waxaan Macquul ahayn, taasoo ahayd in abwaanku uu faraxumeeyay inanyar oo 10 jir ah, 10sanadood ka hor, taasoo ah wax aan inaba wax ka jirin.

 

waxaana Hubaala in aysan Hargaysa ka go'ayn Soomaaliya inteeda kale, lanana xisaabtami doono Maamul Goboleedka Soomaaliland ee Waqooyiga Soomaaliya, arinkaasoo ah tay ku dabasocdaan Abwaanka oo ah nin aan Marnaba Ogolayn qaadanayna kala Goyn Soomaaliyeed.

 

Abwaanku waxa uu horay u sameeyay Xaflado uu ku Taageerayo Gobolada Hoostaga Ismaamulka Itoobiya ee ********ya isaga oo u muujinayay Sida loogu baahanyahay Madaxbanaanidooda, iyo Midnimadii Soomaaliya oo soo noqota.

 

Taariikhda Abwaan Sangub oo Kooban

 

Abwaanku Magaalada Hargaysa ayuu 1944-tii ku dhashay, hase yeeshee Sangub wuxuu ku bar-baaray magaalada Dhagax Buur. Marka laga bilaabo shan jirkiisii ayuu xagga fanka u hilloobiddiisii ay ku soo baxday, waxaana uu caan ku noqday dhallinyaranimadiisii cayaarta loo yaqaano dhaantada. Maxamuud Cabdullaahi Sangub 1961-dii ayuu tagey magaalada Muqdisho xarunta Soomaaliya, waxaana uu xilligaas ka mid noqday fannaaniintii Radio Muqdisho.

 

Maxamuud markii hore waxa uu fanka ku bilaabay cayaaraha ka sokow xagga gabayada. Sangub riwaayadiisii ugu horraysay ee uu bandhigo waxaa lagu magacaabi jiray ?Naga Guur? oo loogu talo galay gumaystihii Ingiriiska.

 

Sannadkii 1964-tii Sangub waxa uu allifay riwaayad la magac baxday ?la mood noqonse wayday?. 1966-kiina riwaayaddii caan baxaday ee ?Yaxaas dhaga-duub? ayuu Sangub sameeyay. Dhinaca jacaylka, 1970-tanaadkii ayuu riwaayadihii caan baxay ku bandhigay meelo fara badan oo dhulka Soomaliya ka mid ah.

 

Riwaayadahaas oo ay ka mid ahaayeen ?Qabrigii Jacaylka? , ?Xuud baa liqay Jacaylkii? iyo ?Xuskii Jacaylka?. Sangub riwaayadahaas caanka baxay ee jacaylka ka sokow waxa uu sameeyay dhawr riwaayadood oo waddani ah, waxaa la soo qaadi karaa riwaayaddii ?Xorriyo nin gayaa ha guursado?, ?Waa maadays adduunyadu dadkuna way matalayaan? , ?Gari ma kaa baxdaa? iyo ?Isuma qaddo?. Sangub waxaa lagu tiriyaa amaba uu yahay abwaanka Soomaaliyeed ee xagga riwaayadaha ugu badan.

 

Xilligii qaxa iyo dagaalada sokeeye ka dib Sangub waxa uu sameeyay riwaayado kale oo ay ka mid tahay ?Ummad wada qooqaa wax u qaybi leeyahay?, ?Halkii Qoontu ku taalley dhakhtarkii qali waa?, ?Qabyo? iyo ?Abbiil ma leh?. Heesaha waddaniga ah ee caanka ah oo lagu xusuusto waxaa ka mid ah heesta lagu magacaabo ?nin ku siray wax kuu sheeg? oo hobollada Waaberi ee qaranku ay qaadeen iyo mid kale oo lagu magacaabo ?Yaan Ismiit?.

 

Hadaba waxmagaratada aan Soomaali waxba ka aqoon ee Cuqdada Xaasidka Xumaanta, dagaal doonka , iyo Jaa'ifaynta umada Soomaaliyeed la dabataagan goormaa lala xisaabtami doonaa ?.

 

Idamaale News

 

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[Yeniceri]

Abwaan Maxamuud Ciise Cabdullahi Sangub oo isagu ah Abwaan Soomaaliyeed oo aad Qaali u ah ayay Waxmagarato Maangaab ahi u Dhigeen Shirqool ay kula dagaalamayaan balse ku guuldaraystay, iyaga oo dhinaca kalena ku Guulaystay in ay Cuqdada iyo xumaanta ku jirta banaanka soo dhigaan.

 

Idamaale News

Idamaale.com - always defending the undefendable: warlord-turned-presidents, corrupt officials, and now, child-rape suspects.

 

Everyone who goes against their narrow socio-political self-interests is deemed as waxmagarato, as if Sangub's arrest pertains to the political situation at home. But if the same girl were to accuse Cabdi Qeybdiid of rape, I got $100 saying Idamaale.com would be one of the first (if not the first) websites to declare him guilty!

 

They make me sick! :mad:

[juba]

i guess a 10 page topic wasn't enough for the infamous SANGUB,now we made another one :rolleyes:

[Rowda]

Interesting that you consider intellectual by yourself and others here including me! Do not you think that is not intelligent comment? The case is now the forum adm. I can definitely say you are doqon

 

English or Somali translation please!

Doqon?? well, waxaad tiriba logu yidhi. Kulama caytamayo lakiin waxaad ubaahan tahay in aad raacdid SOL rules.

[soomaali-waalan]

It is very sad to see the exportation of clanism and hate from somalia to the world. As one can see, Mr. Singub's case is a clear case of imported hatered and illogical idiology from few who want independence from the Greater Somalia. Some condsider him to be un-patriotic and a traitor to his birthland of Hargeisa. We all know that Mr. Singub was born in Hargeisa to a Northerner mother (from **** ) and he's married to 2 women from the same clan, thus some believe that he should support the break-away Somaliland and its leaders. To their disappointment, Mr. Singub has supported the the infant government of Somalia and some of its previous leaders.

I personally know Mr. Singub as we have been neighbors for about 7 years. He is not the type of person to take an advantage to do something like that to children. The alleged confession is due to an expert suddectress's irresistable words.

[General Duke]

People, hold on a minute. This is not about clan, or a famous artist, or his last comment about the North. It is about an immoral act which is against everything as a people we stand for.

 

Lets not try to defend this man, who has not even bothered defending himself. No excuses..

[Castro]

^ Not to mention illegal act, assuming he did it. The essence of the argument should not be diluted to clannism. It belittles and dehumanizes the victim into a clan stooge. It is due to the courage of this victim that we know anything. If it's a false accusation, that person is buying herself an express ticket to hell. Acuuthu bilaah.

[Allamagan]

nomads, read closely this below

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..After police found Isse at the mall, he confirmed that he had admitted the sexual contact in the phone call but said "it was only a joke." He ultimately admitted to police that he had fondled the girl, the complaint said.

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All your judgments are based on what the

compliant said, and driven by qabyalad.

Note, the man is innocent until proven

guilty. We haven't heard his side of the

story yet.

 

 

am

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Duufaan, afxumeynta jooji.

[Xargaga]

People, hold on a minute. This is not about clan, or a famous artist, or his last comment about the North. It is about an immoral act which is against everything as a people we stand for.

 

Lets not try to defend this man, who has not even bothered defending himself. No excuses..

well said general. I believe that its high time that ppl should outgrow this blind loyalty and uphold the rights of those opressed and abused . i believe that this is not an isolated case alot of such cases are happening within many families but are being covered up. not to mention back in somalia where there is no rule of law.Whats wrong with you guys how can you denie this. just imagine an old man of 70yrs chatting over the phone with a 20yr old girl talking about sex then calling it a joke. Ma waxaas aa abwaan laguyiqiin?.comoon guys how are we going to be perceaved as a community when we just come out in big numbers showing support to this guy. why are we not seeing demonstration aginst the injusticess being subjected to the minority clans back home where their daughters are being raped while their land and properties are plundered.pls lets stop all this hyprocrisy here and let the law takes its cause i believe the system in USA is competent enough to sort this out.

 

 

Sometimes it falls upon a Generation to be Great You can be that Generation BY Nelson Mandela

[General Duke]

covered up. not to mention back in somalia where there is no rule of law.Whats wrong with you guys how can you denie this. just imagine an old man of 70yrs chatting over the phone with a 20yr old girl talking about sex then calling it a joke.

Indeed that itself places a big question mark on his character. He was a major figure in our community, a man who through his art highlighted some of the social issues facing the Somali people. His actons have opened a can of worms, and we need to have inner reflection as a community. Remember we all have, sisters, daughters and young female relations. Would we want them to undergo such an incident?

[Taleexi]

I wonder if somalis' will ever recover from clan syndrome :confused: , "a rapist is a rapist" period. If there is a speculation on what to do with the rapist just in case one of us is somewhat related to him is an open debate but for God's sake let us not rape the justice .