dhulQarnayn Posted September 26, 2008 Al-Shabab are a bunch of Munaafiquun, who have deviated from the righteous path of Allah. Many ahadith or sayings of our Holy Prophet Mohammad(pbuh) forbid the killing of women and children, as it is clearly stated in (Bukhari, 4:258) narrated by the Caliph Umar(RA) During some of the Ghazawat of Allah's Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah's Apostle forbade the killing of women and children Abu Bakr(RA), our first caliph also summarized our Prophet's message, telling the leaders of his armies, "Do not kill a woman, a child, or an old man. Do not cut down a blossoming tree, do not destroy a building, and do not kill a sheep or camel, except for the purpose of eating it. Do not submerge or cut down a palm tree. Do not be excessive, and do not be cowardly." Now I ask each and every deviant supporter on SOL; why is it that everytime the Shabab hell hounds try to attack government installations that dozens of women and children are killed, instead of government forces? Why do they cowardly use innocent mothers and children as human shields? They've been doing this ever since their butts were kicked out of Xamar-- so how many more poor souls will have to die before you guys realize that these monkeys are nothing but senseless murdering brutes who will all burn in hell. dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted September 27, 2008 ^^We're still waiting for your piece on why you think the TFG is good for Somalia (par the obvious). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted September 27, 2008 ^^Or he can answer: 1. Why he thinks it is Islamic to support the occupation/invasion of a Muslim land? 2. WHat was the definition of Munafiqeen during the time of the Prophet( saw) 3. Is it Islamic to be a tribalist? 4. Why he thinks it is Islamic to support the handing over of innocent Muslims? 5. How much cano bore did he have before he wrote this? I doubt you'll get any straight answers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dhulQarnayn Posted September 27, 2008 ^^^Typical simpletons always answer a simple question with a list of baseless questions! dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted September 27, 2008 Al-Shabab are a bunch of Munaafiquun how about the tfg ?? ... a bunch of what ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dhulQarnayn Posted September 27, 2008 B_G The shabab munaafiquun will always be more dangerous and worse than any disbeliever. Allah(SWT)has said so in the Holy Qur'an and has delineated, with wonderful clarity-- right from wrong. For instance,Allah(SWT)says in Al-Baqara(8-12): And of mankind are some who say: We believe in Allah and the Last Day, when they believe not. (8) They think to beguile Allah and those who believe, and they beguile none save themselves; but they perceive not. (9) In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. (10) And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only. (11) Beware ! They indeed the mischief-makers. But they perceive not. (12) Now with that in mind, is it too much to ask the Al-Shabab mischief-makers to stop murdering our innocent civilians? dhulQarnayn :cool: Republic Of California Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted November 12, 2008 ^^Killing innocents is forbideen in Islam, period, whether it is done by Shabab or any groups.So is rebelling against the Imams, declaring takfir upon the Muslims, and so is violating the rights od dhimmis under Islamic protection. Having said that, the question still remains; If Islam clarified right from wrong, as you say, then which Islam allowed you(?) and many of your comrades to cheerlead for the Ethiopian occupation, and the subsequent slaughtering of Somalis, killing of Ulema, raping of women and attacks on Masjids? Or are you saying that Alshabab are worser than the "disbelievers", ie Ethiopian invaders,who occupied masajids and defecated on Allah's holy book? Perhaps, you should read the tafsir of surah that you posted yourself : quote:Types of Mischief that the Hypocrites commit Ibn Jarir said, "The hypocrites commit mischief on earth by disobeying their Lord on it and continuing in the prohibited acts. They also abandon what Allah made obligatory and doubt His religion, even though He does not accept a deed from anyone except with faith in His religion and certainty of its truth. The hypocrites also lie to the believers by saying contrary to the doubt and hesitation their hearts harbor. They give as much aid as they can, against Allah's loyal friends, and support those who deny Allah, His Books and His Messengers. This is how the hypocrites commit mischief on earth, while thinking that they are doing righteous work on earth.'' The statement by Ibn Jarir is true, taking the disbelievers as friends is one of the categories of mischief on the earth. Allah said, [وَالَّذينَ كَفَرُواْ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءُ بَعْضٍ إِلاَّ تَفْعَلُوهُ تَكُنْ فِتْنَةٌ فِى الاٌّرْضِ وَفَسَادٌ كَبِيرٌ ] (And those who disbelieve are allies of one another, if you do not do this (help each other), there will be turmoil and oppression on the earth, and great mischief.) (8:73), In this way Allah severed the loyalty between the believers and the disbelievers. Similarly, Allah said, [يَـأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْكَـفِرِينَ أَوْلِيَآءَ مِن دُونِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَتُرِيدُونَ أَن تَجْعَلُواْ للَّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ سُلْطَاناً مُّبِيناً ] (O you who believe! Do not take disbelievers as Awliya' (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves) (4: 144). Allah then said, [إِنَّ الْمُنَـفِقِين 1614; فِى الدَّرْكِ الاٌّسْفَلِ مِنَ النَّارِ وَلَن تَجِدَ لَهُمْ نَصِيراً ] (Verily, the hyprocrites will be in the lowest depth of the Fire; no helper will you find for them) (4:145). http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=1010 Therefore , is it not hypcocrisy, to cry day and night about how Shabab violated Islam; yet at the same support the violations on Islam- which were commited by the Ethiopian regime in Southern SOmalia? Or to keep matters simple: which Islam made it halal for you to cheerlead for the Xabashi occupation? Or do you think ALlah will only ask you if you opposed Alshabab-then your aqeedah is safe and you will enter jannah? That question goes to anyone willing to take it up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted November 12, 2008 iska hadle ina igarre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted November 12, 2008 Norf and Mujahid Red Sea, Hargaysa bombings were they a victory for the Al Shabaab? Obviously they had the right to target, the Kuffar UNDP office and the puppet ruler Riyaales palace and those Ethiopian "office" or embassy. A good strike for the Muslims, dont you agree, worth the price of the civilains right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xidigo Posted November 12, 2008 Haa alshabaab waa munaafiqiin diinta ku soo daba gabanaya, laakiin adeerkaa iyo xabashida uu wato ayaa ka sii munaafiq san. A/Y iyo all the baddhlfs waa in la daldalo sidii Sadam Husein. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted November 12, 2008 ^^^Ok so you are the US? As for your comments edo, A/Y did not bomb Hargaysa, killing countless innocents Al Shabaab did. Stick to the topic, get a hair cut and stay in school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted November 12, 2008 Go on Xidigo, kick Duke between the legs and defend your fellow citizens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 12, 2008 Originally posted by B_G: ^^ If Islam clarified right from wrong, as you say, then which Islam allowed you(?) and many of your comrades to cheerlead for the Ethiopian occupation, and the subsequent slaughtering of Somalis, killing of Ulema, raping of women and attacks on Masjids? Or are you saying that Alshabab are worser than the "disbelievers", ie Ethiopian invaders,who occupied masajids and defecated on Allah's holy book? Perhaps, you should read the tafsir of surah that you posted yourself : Good call Dakhtarka Geela! That kind of analytical rigor is what's missing from the other side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted November 12, 2008 ^^^lol. What nonssence, adeer Al Shabaab a war based on bravado. As for the allegations, we know that for a fact. Muslim blood was shed in the streets of Mogadishu, Bossaso, Hargaysa by suicide bombers. And the excuse is misplaced anger. Note all the above even if true should excuse the actions of killing mass innocents, or does it ya Islamic scholars? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 12, 2008 ^^No one is excusing any wrongdoing adeer. BG’s well-formulated question exposes the counterfeit you are, Duke! You are talking about shedding Muslim blood today while you’ve been cheerleading the destruction of your cities thinking of course that would enable the part you support to govern. Soon the tanks you'v been riding will head west,and somalis will inshaa Allah come together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites