January over NO African Peacekeepers

[General Duke]

^^^There is a political process taking place in which all Somali's will get their rights back, theri regions back and greater say in the affairs of the nation. There is a reconciliation conference palnned to including everyone, the formerly armed clans as well as those that where not armed.

 

The days when armed clans occupiying other peoples regions, farms, homes could act like national players is over..

 

No one wnats another oustide conference, we have a government and the people will and must be empowered.

 

There is always resistance to change, get used to the new reality.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

^^^The reality on the ground appears to be the same. We just have new players on the ground. If so much opinionated elucidation is taking place in Somalia, then what is the point of having Peacekeeping troops?

 

You keep repeating the same old propaganda.

[General Duke]

^^^The AU is needed for a short period of time while the TFG troops are being trained. Its really that simple, however as you are in expert on everything you will no doubt give us a different view point.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

^^^The African Peacekeepers are needed for a short period of time to do what? Care to tell me Duke. Keep peace? If so, then what sort of peace are we talking? Who is disturbing the peace? The ICU is defeated as you keep on reminding us day in and day out. The warlords are powerless. So duke, be honest, the African troops are needed so they could keep the Warlord Regime in power before the people get the opportunity to overthrow them.

 

It is a Warlord Government which has the slightest support from the Somali people. You need to digest that fact. It will take you a while, but eventually you will. Insha’allah.

[Captain Xalane]

The only role of the Peace keepers will be to help in the disarmament process and maybe,maybe train the police and so forth.Yes,the ICU was liquidated and still there are elements that have to be dealt with,elements representing the ICU.After the transitional Government,its the pple who will determine the future of the men u are refering to as warlords,whether to allow them to represent them or not.

[RedSea]

^So according to you,the people must flow whether they like it or not? well ladies and gentelmen,you want to know what is wrong with somalis, this is exactly what is wrong with right here,the above creature.

 

Liquidated? why do you use that term.There is no such in real life,I think you are exposed to too much combat war games,cut it down a bit 'soldier'.

 

So yes where are the AU forces which were supposed to come?

 

Either way,it wouldnt' matter if they showed up or not.The Xabashis and their daba dhilif must be gotten rid of.

[Captain Xalane]

U never heard the term ''liquidate them'',or ''waste them''?Those terms exist,its only that u are ignorant of them.

[RedSea]

^I know they exist,but they apply in NO way in war torn Somalia,feeling me,mr.smarty pants..

 

I didnt say they didnt' exist in vidoe games though.

[Captain Xalane]

Its not about being smart,its about a force meeting another force, then one force gets liquidated,its men being wasted.The terms apply in somalia,and the ICU as a force,a military wing,got liquidated and thus its militia men having been wasted.Again,ur claim is embarassing and out of context,it only shows ur ignorancy of them.

[RedSea]

^yes it's about being smart soldier.

 

Let us compare them here.

 

The ICU swept aside some warlords,who are now back(suprise suprise) by way of force,and later some what of fight in Jawhar and few other areas.Other than that,they gained the trusteeship of the people,which made them able to go from town to another without much fight.Kismayo was a good example.There wasnt' much violence,no protests,because were glad to have them as their goverment or interim governance.

 

They motivated the people,they were simply trusted by all.

 

On the other hand,judging from your stand point(as TFG supporter that you are),you feel that everyone who stands in the way of the TFG,should be,how shall I say,liquidated?

 

Well,I have really bad news for you soldier.The history proves that such mind set has no chance of ever coming to take place or succeeding.You may certainly try(refering to the TFG and their helpers)but I have no doubt it will only create more choas and violence.

 

Now,you being a civilian(maybe you think you are a soldier) have probably spent too much time viewing war games,and thus have in your little ill judgment think that same can apply in real life where,you kill all your 'enemies' and later you end up on top,that is the picture that you see or is lingering in your head,which is left behind by the vidoe games you played last night.

 

In this case the people are the enemy,and you know the people cannot be held in check for long,they will rise and get their rights.The somali people in this case want the ICU,and not those who are using the Xabashis to 'liquidate' 'waste' them.Do you get what I am saying Captain?

[Captain Xalane]

If am not mistaken,its the term ''liquidate'' that was in question and ur ignorancy of it.Fine.For the last time,i will explain it to u,so that tomorrow u might not embarass urself.

The ICU liquidated the Warlords and wasted the warlord's militia men.The TFG liquidated the ICU and wasted their militia men.Its as simple as that,its not about having bad news or good one for me or going all personal.Argue and reason well,thats if u got what it takes to back them,potato comments and i do not get along well,u must know that by this time.

 

P.s.Its unhealthy and very potato like,to write a whole load of nonsense,next time,as u always are told,u might wanna shorten them.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

^^^I doubt they have been liquidated. However evidence points out that they went underground. There is a difference between being liquidated and going underground.

 

When a military group doesn’t have enough military equipment, militarized technology and not enough men power they go underground.

 

About the disarmament, the Somalis, didn’t give-up their weapons to the TFG soldiers and Ethiopian Soldier. You think they will give it to some African men they think are inferior than them? That is the best joke I have heard so far.

[General Duke]

Captain Xalane is right the clan courts have been liquidated. Their areas of operation and head quarters has been taken over, their economic lifelines is now in government hands. Their leadership both millitary and civilians are in exile, on the run or dead. Their heavy weapons either in government hands destroyed.

Their foot soldiers have been disbanded and 90% never had a great deal of training as most were only members for a shiort time.

 

Its near enough a complete defeat as we have ever seen in our history.

[Taliban]

Originally posted by General Duke:

Its near enough a complete defeat as we have ever seen in our history.

That reminds me of Cheney's famous quote:

 

"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."

[General Duke]

^^^Also remember the difference between Sadam Hussain and the clan courts, one man fought till the end the others ran for safety, tricking the young boys to die for a cause the leaders did not think worthy of death.