Paragon Posted May 14, 2007 Thanks guys. Insha-allah, will post the second part soon. I am glad you guys are waiting anxiously. I am anxiously looking forward to post it . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted May 14, 2007 Caamir, That is not sufficient enough to proof anything nor does it match the numerous history which was written, if there was any truth to that, we would have heard about it. I am suprised you are conviced by such small paragraph. Alamaganow, adiga 'nimaku' sidan iyo sidaas ayaa kaasoo hadhay. Kolay, taariikh waa wax dhacay sida ay udhacdayna waa lahayaa, wayna caday. Qoraal yar oo ka duwan sida taariikhdu udhacday waxba ma tari karo. As matter of fact, and as truth is and as occured is out there, we all know it, one needs to look at it in unbiased way to understand it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted May 14, 2007 Originally posted by Dabshid: Dissatisfaction at the distribution of power among the clanfamilies and between the two regions boiled over in December 1961, when a group of British-trained junior army officers in the north rebelled in reaction to the posting of higher ranking southern officers (who had been trained by the Italians for police duties) to command their units. This should explain why you hardly see a man from the 'north' who goes beyond colonel, a general is rare, while most of southerns even men trained for police duties are given the title of 'general' while actual trained military officers were rank below them, that is some injustice right there, it should explain what went wrong from the getgo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted May 14, 2007 ^A valid point there Stealth. If we're honest enough with ourselves, I think, there are many things that are visibly wrong. But we decide to act blissfully ignorant of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 14, 2007 lol@Stealth and Paragon! Horta xagge degentihiin ? All these valid points represent narrow political grievances and it hardly gives a moral justification to snm’s separatism drive! Either you guys are missing the fundamentals of nationhood or just like to banter…I mean you can’t be serious about giving Somaliland’s wrong policies of secession a moral rationalization on a mere political and institutional disadvantages. These sorts of things are correctable and could have other remedies short of dividing the whole country…. Other than that minor objection, I think Paragon's write up fired some intellectual bullets and presented a sympathetic case for our brothers in the North! Do continue adeer … Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted May 14, 2007 ^Lol Xiin. Fundamentals of nationhood? What is it that we don't know that you know? Sometimes such things come across as mere jargons sxb. Maybe we should discuss the 'fundamentals of nationhood' at length and indepth. We might learn new things. Lol, because they grevances are 'correctable' their action towars self-reliance is 'unjustifiable'? Some logic there, yaa Xiin. You say: giving Somaliland’s wrong policies of secession a moral rationalization on a mere political and institutional disadvantages Or is it, Xiin? You seem to be ignoring the fact that my writing was merely dealing with the first years of independence. Don't reach your conclusions before you hear all the evidence. Or other wise you would need to revise your conclusions again and again I assure you isku meel ma deganin, as far as I know . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 14, 2007 ^^I spoke too early miyyaa ? Do carry on haddaba... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 14, 2007 Somali Unity way dhamaatay ,,,,,,, how many times do i have to tell you guys ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted May 14, 2007 ^You had 16 years to say that, the time for the anti-Somali groups is over. Its our turn now. So iska aamus and see how its done. whether you like it or not Somalia wey midoobeysaa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted May 14, 2007 ^^Adiga iyo isaga ma isku kiin dhawrannaa marka? . **Grabs popcorn*** Haye halkaa kasii wada yaa shabaab Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 14, 2007 looooooooool@Paragon ,,,,,,,,,,,, waar niyow yaryarku waxba ma fahmayaan,,,,,,, marka sow inaan iyaga iyo waqtiga isu daayo sow maaha ha is arkeene ?? Mr. Me, don't be so exited sxb ,,,,, somali unity was dead from the day we gave up from Zone 5 (soomaali galbeed) ,,,,, If you mean by SOMALIA WAY MIDOOBAYSAA only koonfur iyo waqooyi then someone is dreaming here ,,,,,, if you mean all the 5 somalis then consider me IN ,,,,,, and want that to happen ,,, hadii la waayo tan kelena way dhamaatay ,,,,,,,, I hope inaad intaa aad imika haysataan iska bismillaysataan ,,,,,,, wax badso wax beel bay leedahay baa hore loo yidhiye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted May 14, 2007 ^^Jacaylbaro, unitigaa ayaanba rabnaa. Aniga NFD iyo Ethiopia ayaa layga jiraa oo uu geel xeryo igaga gadaaman yahay. marka, unity ayaan u doonayaa ninyow balse inta la doondoonayo in si xaq-dhowr leh ha lagu doondoono ayaan leeyahay. There is a bigger picture here and all we seem to some doing is fighting over one piece of it. That won't do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 14, 2007 Exactly ,,,,,, ama ha la isu wada yimaado ama sidaa ha lagu kala joogo ,, wax u dhexeeya ma laha ,,,,,,,,,, Hadda 16 kaas sanno only one piece buu problemku ka taagnaa welina ka taagan yahay ,,,, haddana dowlado shisheeye baaba isku dhex haysta ,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 14, 2007 ^^Jacaylow maxaad u xuurtoonaysa kolba sidii Allah ka dhigey noqone! Ayyaamahaan si baad u baqaysaa ee is deji saaxiib ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted May 14, 2007 looooooooool ,, ma baqanayee ,,,,,, qolaan isku kalsoonayn weli oo aan u digayaa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites