Jacaylbaro Posted August 6, 2007 runta sheeg niyow and call for your clan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted August 6, 2007 my clan is in the process of making a new state already... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted August 6, 2007 Then don't call them reer baadiye ,,,,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted August 6, 2007 If I was to make new stateall Somalis wuld be invited. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted August 6, 2007 Actually i would respond to the invitation .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sayid Posted August 6, 2007 Punland fragmentation is not a possitive thing and would likely not happen. IT is just in the dreamers murky mind. A better candidate for a new Somali state, off from Somaliland could be called "Awdaliland". It can be real if Reyale, the glue, is not re-elected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted August 6, 2007 ^^^It matters not as I have said the people of SSC are nationalists and will never support the secessionist day dream. Anyhow Sayid is right Awdal land seems a better bet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted August 7, 2007 Well it seems they are not supporting the bugland's dreams now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted August 7, 2007 ^^ but wait until you elect someone other then reyale, rer awdal would start to wave the blue flug. about this Maakhir thing, it would really show the failure of cade muuse because if there is one region he should be able to sell his ideas, its sanaag. It would be very difficult to curve out xero ******** out that region, it mixed with somaliland (Cerigaabo city), darwiishta ceerigaabo district and cade's sub clan (Bosaso). Should this idea play, there could conflicts in all those fronts. but maakhiris dont like conflict, they have abondoned ceerogaabo, laas qoary and even bosaso and moved to badhan in the heart of xero ******** to avoid it. Maakhir state, in opinion, will achieve nothing it could not with rer sool, sanaag and cayn or puntland but will only further divide a people already divided. [ August 07, 2007, 11:40 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted August 8, 2007 ^Naxar, do not make sweeping generalizations about the people of Sanaag and Western Bari. 1/3 of Bosaso's population hail from them. They also make up the bulk of merchants in there. And Erigavo falls within their influence despite that city's shared status. It is them who are associated with that city politically and demographically. FYI, Diasporas are now going back and rebuilding Erigavo. My own family has built new houses and one hotel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted August 8, 2007 This is a glimpse of Makhir's history, hence the selection of the name, I guess. Intensive exploration really began only after the occupation of Aden by the British in 1839 and the ensuing scramble for Somali possessions by Britain, France, and Italy (see below The imperial partition). In 1854, while Richard Burton was exploring the country to the northwest in the course of his famous journey from Berbera to Harer, his colleague John Hanning Speke was making his way along the Makhir Coast in the northeast. T his region had previously been visited by Charles Guillain, captain of the brig Ducouedid, between 1846 and 1848. News of the Somaliland comes from Berbera and Makhir coast than Mogadishu. Thus, the Protectorate Council had draft legislation placed before it for the first time this summer, in preparation for Legislative Council. The new governor, Pike, has already clashed with Somali Youth League, which protested against Agricultural schemes in the Medishe Valley. There is little economic news beyond a bad locust season, and bad season for the Makhir coast, where a dearth of tunny has caused the Elaya cunning factory to close down for a time. Somaliland's expenditure amounts to 1,199,000 pound, of which only 493,000 comes from its own resources. There is little news of economic discoveries, beyond a little columbite, beryl and gypsum found round Berbera, rutile round ELayu (Ceelaayo) and Manganese near Sheikh. On the Makhir coast, 7 hoori coast have been distributed by the Fisheries officer, and a dhow is to be equipped with diesel engine, while fish farms are being built at Mandera prison where the convicts have been thought to make nets and prepare shark-liver oil Source: "Quarterly Notes" and by Henry Swanzy synopsizes the economic development of regions in Africa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted August 8, 2007 caamir "^Naxar, do not make sweeping generalizations about the people of Sanaag and Western Bari. 1/3 of Bosaso's population hail from them. They also make up the bulk of merchants in there. And Erigavo falls within their influence despite that city's shared status" caamir, u misunderstand me. Yes, they do make up a large % of bosaso or "Western bari" and ceerigaabo. that was exactly my piont, your too wide spread to curve out a "state" out of those regions. us you know ceerigabo district is the only place that the darwish live, for it to be added to a maakhir state would be difficult without even considering the Somalilanders you share ceerigaabo city with who now claim the whole city, bari and bosasso will be just as difficult. for me, this maakhir state will lead to further isolation. just like puntland has done, they will make badhan the capital instead of ceerigaabo which will leave both ceerigaabo and wesern bari out of its reach and what you will end up with is a state that is in reality made up of badhan, the abondoned city of laas Qoray, dhahar and buraan. In my opinion the best option for rer maakhir is to stick with puntland and focus on reclaiming lost lands and cities such as ceerigaabo which was founded by their Garaads but is now a center from which Somaliland plans attacks such as happened in dhahar. and for the love of God, stop this maakhir nonesense, they make up the overwhelming majority in sanaag. call it sanaag because we now in truth that the darwiish and somalilanders occopy only few villages in sanaag. if Sanaag can be divided into "Bariga sanaag", "Konfoorta sanaag" and "galbeedka sanaag", togdheer and mudug would be north and south. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites