Armchair Politician Posted January 16, 2008 The following journalists are being held without charge by the TFG police forces, in violation of habeas corpus. Habeas corpus and/or protection from Arbitrary Arrest and Detention is guaranteed in: * The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) (Article 9) * The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam (1990) (Article 20) * The Constitution of the Somali Republic (1960) (Article 16) * The Transitional Federal Charter (2004) (Article 16, the same as the original constitution) These are the journalists held illegally, without charge or crime: * Mohammed Shidane Daban (Radio Banadir) * Bashir Mohammed Abdulkadir (Radio Somaliweyn) * Abdirahman Mohamed Hudeyfi (Radio Somaliweyn) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted January 16, 2008 ^Welcome to the 3rd world mate! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted January 16, 2008 ^^^lool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armchair Politician Posted January 16, 2008 So you're saying that the TFG is too barbaric to respect the rule of law? The UIC respected the rule of law, and their administration was given the same population, economy, society and challenges. What's wrong with the TFG? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted January 16, 2008 ^It's about as barbaric as Egypt and Russia. Does that answer it for you? PS - Don't use the word barbaric unless something actually merits it PPS - There is no rule of law at any time in Somalia including the UIC's time - the only rule that counts is that of the ruler! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armchair Politician Posted January 16, 2008 Egypt and Russia's attitude towards Arbitrary Arrest and Detention is Barbaric. So is the USA's "Extraordinary Rendition" of prisoners to barbaric countries who do not respect the rule of law, and their own arbitrary detention in Guantanamo Bay. Somalia was under the rule of law between 1960 and 1969, and between September to December 2006. Under the UIC one could take disputes to the law to be resolved through the law. One had protections under the law from abuses, and could appeal decisions. Regardless of anything else you can say about them, there was the rule of law. Without the rule of law, there is only barbarism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted January 16, 2008 ^Wrong on all counts. You have a lot to learn. As I said before welcome to the 3rd world mate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabriye amp co. Posted January 16, 2008 Law and order? I'm sure thats one thing Addis Ababa aren't very conerned with here. Unless you have expatations from M.dhere and his likes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armchair Politician Posted January 17, 2008 After 25 days in Jail, Puntland has released Awale Jama Salad on bail. http://allafrica.com/stories/200801161136.html No charges were ever filed against him. Also, Ayanle Husein Abdi was released this evening. http://allafrica.com/stories/200801161133.html They were released right after I posted this. Does the TFG read this forum?!? First post updated to reflect this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Som@li Posted January 17, 2008 lol,ofcourse, TFG is reading this,Duke is its spokesman, All innocent journalists should be freed,but Armchair Politician what would you do when the journalists incite hate and voilence? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armchair Politician Posted January 17, 2008 It's fine to arrest an author for specific charges, if they are actually crimes, but that's not what these men are in prison for. They are in prison for writing articles that the TFG does not want anyone to learn about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites