N.O.R.F Posted October 26, 2007 Opposition political party formed in Somalia parliament 25 Oct 25, 2007 - 7:09:26 PM BAIDOA, Somalia Oct 25 (Garowe Online) - Somalia's interim parliament that is attempting to resolve a row between President Abdullahi Yusuf and Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi officially split in two camps Thursday after pro-Gedi lawmakers declared a new political party. Some 126 members of parliament convened at Hotel Bakiin in Baidoa, a town 250km northwest of Mogadishu that has served as parliament's home since early 2006. Abdullahi Sheikh Ismail, the Somali constitution and federal affairs minister, told reporters at the conclusion of the Hotel Bakiin meeting that 126 MPs signed an 11-point accord, including support for declarations signed in August at the conclusion of the clan-based national reconciliation conference. "We [lawmakers] were originally appointed in a clan-based manner, but after three years of working together we allied ourselves on principles," Sheikh Ismail said. The Somali constitution minister, a close Gedi ally who is also a deputy prime minister, said the 126 MPs formed a new political party known as the United Somali Parliamentarians, a group that stands to "protect the constitution and the government." Prominent USP party figures at today's meeting included Deputy Defense Minister Salad Ali Jeele, Reconciliation Minister Mohamed Abdi Mareye, and lawmakers Mohamed Qanyare and Muse Sudi Yalahow, both former Mogadishu warlords. Prime Minister Gedi flew to Ethiopia yesterday, forcing parliament to postpone a vote of confidence debate on his government for the second time in a week. [ Full story] President Yusuf wants Gedi to face the confidence vote, which the president thinks his prime minister will lose. But many see the declaration of the new USP party as a clear sign that Prime Minister Gedi enjoys sizeable support in parliament. The personal power struggle between the two Somali leaders has severely impacted the functioning capacity of a fragile government that, despite the backing of foreign troops, has been largely unable to control events on the ground, especially in Mogadishu. Ethiopia backs both Yusuf and Gedi as two of its main allies in Somalia. Ethiopian troops helped install the transitional government in Mogadishu last January, but the government struggles to function in the capital in the face of relentless insurgent attacks. Source: Garowe Online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted October 26, 2007 why do u want to give a heart-attack to some ppl ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibtisam Posted October 26, 2007 ^^^Maybe we need them to die off, trouble makers that is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted October 26, 2007 United Nations envoy urges Somali leaders to end row over power 21 hours ago NAIROBI (AFP) — The UN special envoy to Somalia on Thursday exhorted the leaders of the war-torn nation to patch up differences that have stifled effective governance in the recent months. Ahmedou Ould Abdallah said the power struggle between President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed and Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi was "unhelpful" in the face of escalating insurgency and a deepening humanitarian crisis in the country. Yusuf is pushing parliament to oust Gedi on the grounds that he has failed to end the insurgency raging in the capital Mogadishu, formulate a new constitution and install a federal system of government. "This internal crisis is not helping Somalia to be of interest to the international community," Ould Abdallah told AFP in Nairobi, where he was meeting foreign diplomats to mull ways of helping the country. "The president and the prime minister should talk to each other. This crisis should not bring more devastation." On Wednesday, Saudi King Abdullah invited the president, the prime minister and parliament speaker Aden Mohamed Nur to the oil rich kingdom in a bid to reconcile them following the disagreement that has paralysed the government. Underlying the power struggle is the kind of clan rivalry that has fuelled seemingly endless and bloody power struggles in Somalia since it acquired independence in 1960. Conflict flared after the 1991 ouster of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre. Since then, Somalia has had no central authority and defied dozens of initiatives to restore stability. Yusuf, a past president of the self-declared northern state of Puntland, is a former warlord from the ***** clan, one of Somalia's two biggest clans. Gedi is from the other major clan, the ******, which is dominant in Mogadishu. His government last year suffered mass resignations which forced him to reshuffle his cabinet. The fallout between the two leaders comes as the government is battling Islamist-led insurgents who have been targeting government officials, Ethiopian troops and African Union peacekeepers in the recent months. http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jHJ4V7hmfNHQuj1eW4GePYM61CHA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juje Posted October 26, 2007 You know what the benefit for such group would be for Geedi's camp. It will innitiate steps by backers Ethiopia and International sponsers US, Saudi Arabia etc. to find ways to keep this impossing TFG together and not to loose the little they have and call Somali government. Hence, Yeey will be forced to retract and Geedi saved from execution. Apart from that , International players in Somali politics will probably after that kick start the plan to beef up this TFG with able and capable Somali individuals in attempt to get the 'TFG' going somewhere towards the 2009 elections ( that my guess will be postponed due to circumstances). If Geedi holds on to his adopted seat, he will be pressured to name the cabinet from outside the clown parliamentaries of the TFG, and ofcourse if and only if Geedi survives this fiasco, he will have the power not to be influenced by Yeey in naming the cabinet. That is my guess. And I liked this bit by Amin Amir. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faarax-Brawn Posted October 26, 2007 The official end of the TFG,it has been dead the day they used a foreign entity to control their country.but thats another story for another day. Anyway,as i have said earlier,Geedi is going to Hamar & this time, His immidiete clan will join their cousins who were against the TFG anyway. 1990s all over again,but do i say? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 26, 2007 Geedi and his core group have outplayed the old man---it seems. They’ve combined legal resistance in the Parliament with a clever media stunts. The latter seems to be working for them. Imagine the subdue effect last leading headlines had on old man’s supporters when they erroneously led with such headlines like, Saudi King to mediate Somali rifts or Geedi flew to Addis en-route to Saudi Arabia . I checked all the Somali news portals, and international wires, that published that report and I noticed that all their sources was the same, Geedi spokesperson! Also the Ethiopian role in this is unclear. What are they trying to do? Have they initially wanted Geedi out, and after realizing that Geedi is not about to vanish without putting a fight in the Parliament and has enough cash to buy votes, changed their mind? Or have they realized that this project is a failed crop, and started to commence plan B, which means erecting the third client entity in the post-civil war Somalia, namely Benadirland? Are they crowning Geedi and helping him establish credibility within his community by misleadingly speaking hostile words against what went wrong? Where does that leave the American factor? Have they also reached the same conclusion? Or is Geedi wheezing his last gasps, and desperately seeking attention for the betrayal of the old man and the powers that enabled both of them? It’s getting quite intriguing really…but one thing is clear and that is the outcome of this political debacle would be a good measure for the level of American commitment for the tfg project, and subsequently it would be a good indicator of what to come next… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centurion Posted October 26, 2007 Whatever happens, i hope it happens soon. E: Also the Ethiopian role in this is unclear. What are they trying to do? Have they initially wanted Geedi out, and after realizing that Geedi is not about to vanish without putting a fight in the Parliament and has enough cash to buy votes, changed their mind? Or have they realized that this project is a failed crop, and started to commence plan B, which means erecting the third client entity in the post-civil war Somalia, namely Benadirland? Are they crowning Geedi and helping him establish credibility within his community by misleadingly speaking hostile words against what went wrong? Where does that leave the American factor? Have they also reached the same conclusion? The Ethiopians are simply watching how things unfold or rather collapse - they won't hurry to help push the political agenda of the TFG forward. They do not favour their old comrade Yusuf enough to help take decisive action against Geedi, nor are they constructively aiding Geedi whenever he flees to Addis. For them, further discord is even better than propping up a vassal government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 26, 2007 ^^Will see how it all ends up...but Sayid Mohamed, the Master, had once said: Naagtii basariyeen Illaah, barin waxoogaana Inkastoo baftiyo kheyli iyo, boqoro loo iibsho Baalidu sidii habas hadday, boodh ka kici waydo Marna inaanay bilic yeelanayn, ba’a ee yow sheega Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted October 26, 2007 Duke has been quiet lately no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xoogsade Posted October 26, 2007 Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn: The official end of the TFG,it has been dead the day they used a foreign entity to control their country.but thats another story for another day. Anyway,as i have said earlier,Geedi is going to Hamar & this time, His immidiete clan will join their cousins who were against the TFG anyway. 1990s all over again,but do i say? They forget quickly Geedi's responsibility for the mass human body stranded on the outskirts of Muqdisho while clan militia refuse and prevent the UN to feed these women and Children. Their number is said to be around 750,000, almost a million refugee. It was Geedi's consent that these people were made refugees. Waa xoolo odayaasha la sheego. Mr.fanax wuxuu ku beerlaxawsanaayaa A/Y ha la'iga celiyo. Where was his relations to them before they should ask. There is no principle in somali politics otehr than blind loyalty. People Geedi Forced to Flee Muqdisho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 27, 2007 The end of the TFG, an interesting but never the less a misleading title. Never mind the messenger, one detects a sense of desperation or naivety at the poster, for the message is not at all coherent. The formation of an opposition political group by the supporters of the incumbent but rattled PM? Now why create an opposition block if you are confident that you will continue to govern?, Thus while I will not spend ages on this issue. Let me highlight a few points. The parliament have moved last week to hold a vote with regards to the Geedi government. This was prompted by the defection of 24 Ministers including that of Salim Aliow Ibrow, Buuba, the former a staunch close ally and deputy of Geedi. The Parliament voted 115 for and 24 against to hold the confidence vote. Some body mentioned the media blitz and its effect to rattle this government. Its given that untruth and naked lies do tend to run faster than truth itself. However its also a fact that truths crosses the finishing line while untruth seldom ever reaches the end running out of steam in the middle of the race. Thus the fact that one groups is quite, confident, disciplined and the other all over the place is indicative of were this will all end. We wait and see how this place out, so far its one group making loud often contradictory statements. One man is running to Addis every few days and one media biased group making up stories about trips to the Kingdom and precious metals being shipped to Bossaos. I remember the time of the defeated courts, the time of the split of the Parliament many said the same thing, “it’s the end” This is not the end; it’s the transformation of the TFG from an ugly caterpillar into a stunning butterfly. Duke . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted October 27, 2007 ^^Nice try The white elephant known as the TFG is in tatters internally. Put a brave face lad, put a brave face on,,,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 27, 2007 ^^^Adeer, you sound silly really. I highlighted facts, the TFG is going through change which it has done since inception. Rememebr we once had a few warlords in the cabinet today none, we once had a clown for a speaker today we got a strong man. Things change, this is another change, nothing more. The problem is when you get people who know nothing come and make titles like the above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted October 27, 2007 The piece posted, re-read it saxib. An opposition formed in parliament. Is this even possible under the current mandate/charter? Those are facts saxib. Not your 'oh well this happened then that then this and now this will happen'. Silly did you say? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
