xiinfaniin Posted June 3, 2008 Mucaaradka ku sugan Asmara oo dabcay 3 Jun 3, 2008 - 7:23:55 AM Iyadoo uu jiray khilaaf u dhexeeyay Isbahaysiga Asmara oo ah mucaaradka ugu xooggan ee ka horjeeda DF ayaa waxaa soo baxaya warar ay dabacsanaan ku muujinayaan garabka Isbahaysiga ee ku sugan Eritrea. Sheekh Xasan Daahir Aweys oo garabkaas u hadlay ayaa sheegay inay qaadanayaan wixii kasoo baxa shirka Jabuuti haddii ay wanaagsan yihiin, balse aysan qaadanayn haddii ay noqdaan kuwo aan u cuntamayn Isbahaysiga. "Annaga waxaa noo cuntamaya wixii shacabka Soomaaliyeed u cuntamaya, haddii shacabku ku qancan go'aannada lagu gaaro shirka Jabuti, anaguna waan ku qancayna" ayuu Sheekh Daahir Aweys u sheegay saxaafadda isagoo ku sugan Asmara. Sheekhu, wuxuu sheegay in shirka Jabuti uusan ahayn mid go'aankiisa ay leeyihiin Isbahaysiga oo dhan, balse ay goosteen xubno gaar ah oo uu ku sheegay inay yihiin hoggaanka sare ee Isbahaysiga mucaaradka ah. Garabka Isbahaysiga Asmara ee ku sugan Eritrea oo ay ka mid yihiin: Sheekh Xasan Daahir Aweys, Zakariye Max'ud Xaaji Cabdi, Jaamac Max'ed Qaalib iyo xubno kale oo iyagu qaba in xubnaha ku sugan dalka Jabuuti ay yihiin kuwo sharciga Isbahaysiga dhinac maray. Col. Aweys oo ahaan jiray guddoomiyihii golaha shuurada ee Maxkamadaha Islaamiga ah oo la weydiiyay sababta keentay inay dabacsanaan muujiyaan xilligaan oo lagu wado in shirka Jabuti wajigiisa labad uu furmo ayuu su'aashaa kaga jawaabay: "Dantaa ayaa nagu qabsabtay inaan dabacno". Guddoomiyaha Isbahaysiga Asmara Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed iyo xubnaha kale ee ku sugan Jabuuti ayaa waxay horay u sheegeen inay dadaal weyn u galayaan sidii ay kulammo ula qaadan lahaayeen DF, ayna heshiis ula gaari lahaayeen. Shirka Jabuti ayaan weli si rasmi ah u furmin; iyadoo ay jiraan kulamo kala gooni-gooni ah oo ku aaddan sidii dhinacyadaan oo weli kala fikir duwan la isugu soo dhaweyn lahaa, ayna kulammo u qaadan lahaayeen. Garowe Online, Muqdisho source Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted June 3, 2008 ^^That's all we want from the sheekh... This will suck the oxygen out of the mischief promoters who would’ve liked the gulf between Courts to get even wider. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted June 3, 2008 He is a one hell of a ruthless politician. I gotta give it to him. If the article above is true the man is pretty sophisticated politician well versed with the art of intrigue and calculation. Given these new game changers: 1. Ethiopian withdrawal -- both sides are on the same page. 2. UN blue helmet boots to fill the security vacuum -- both sides are on the same page. 3. Sharing power untill the new 2009 scenario takes shape -- both sides are on the same page. He has no effective card left on his hand! The only objection he can raise now is along the lines of 'we are not prepared to deal with secular politicians' which is to demand a penalty kick!!!! He will have to fight the referee. All his opponents and half of his team have to do is to watch the spectacle that follows. He will lose his fans -- read ikhwaans from all walks of Somali life. You don't wanna do that and he knows it. UN is on the hot seat. Will they be able to replace Tigre with nuetral blue helmets drawn from impartial states? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted June 3, 2008 Its a a step in the right direction, now lets see it play out. Xasan Dahir is a wounded individual, his clan aspirations are in the dust and he has been talking in tongues lately. Bashi, "UN is on the hot seat" ? Come again adeer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nephissa Posted June 3, 2008 Xiin bro, if the Shabaabs are not acknowledging these peace talks and results from them, maxaa rajoo meesha yaal? Imagine a peace conference without one of the warring parties? Ridiculous. The Asmara group maxay isaga dhigayaan inay the shabaabs ayaga amar ka qaataan? mise way ka qaataan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted June 3, 2008 Il Generale, will UN take care of the security arrangements for TFG? If not, it's back to square one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted June 3, 2008 Shabaabs are no mystery to any one good Bishaaro. People who are leading this effort know alshabaab inside out. To correct one big misconception out there in the public, shabaabs are not the only force fighting Ethiopians. Sh. Sharif has his own forces fighting against Ethiopians. He is not as toothless as the clueless cyber media depicts him to be. So in the final analyis, provided the outcome makes sense and address the elephant in the room that’s Ethiopia, al shabaabs will have no choice but to follow their political leaders. If they choose war over peace even after Ethiopia withdraws, which I doubt they will, then the public will not allow them to be effective as it does today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted June 3, 2008 These groups are all defeated, Al-Kebaab, Al Asmara Al looters inc. Somalia has moved on and the world community will continue to isolate them and hence all the double talk. We will fight. We will make peace We will stay in Asmara. Garbage Bashi, the TFG does not want a clan warfare as some would like, to hold on to the gains made and to complete the transition is important. Now its not the UN on the hot seat dearboy its the Asamara clowns who have agreed in principle to a UN mandate force, as fo neutral countries what does that mean. Ethiopia is leaving, other frontline states wont come. Its a greatday for the state, the fake shiekhs and the clan chiefs are confused as they were in 12/2006 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted June 3, 2008 Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Shabaabs are no mystery to any one good Bishaaro. People who are leading this effort know alshabaab inside out. To correct one big misconception out there in the public, shabaabs are not the only force fighting Ethiopians. Sh. Sharif has his own forces fighting against Ethiopians. He is not as toothless as the clueless cyber media depicts him to be. So in the final analyis, provided the outcome makes sense and address the elephant in the room that’s Ethiopia, al shabaabs will have no choice but to follow their political leaders. If they choose war over peace even after Ethiopia withdraws, which I doubt they will, then the public will not allow them to be effective as it does today. Well said! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted June 4, 2008 Unlike what most people think, Sheekh Aweys is wadani. His only agenda is to uphold the territorial soverignity and integrity of the Somali natio. He is right to make qualifications to his earlier stance. Contrary to what Corporal Duke and few others here try to paint us, no one is happy to see a prolonged somali conflict. If the UN is deployed, they will not interfer in the daily politics like the Ethiopians are doing right now. And who knows the old stooge will be impeached by the vote of the parliament. With noi Xabashi guards to intimidate parliamentarians, it is a high probablity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LANDER Posted June 4, 2008 Alot of double talk emanating from the Asmara group these days, I suppose watching the prolonged suffering of your people will damage the psyche of any popular leader. If UN troops enter the equation, it will be interesting to see how that is implemented. That is assuming there is a power sharing scheme negotiated, which will be interesting in of it self. Reconciling the ICUs formula for peace and civil order as implemented in the spread of Islamic courts with A/Yusuf proxy-dictatorial aspirations, in other words to be a tool for anybody willing to give him some semblance of power. Well, lets assume that for a moment this unlikely plan works out, the question is why would A/yusuf and his like agree to this plan? Without direct Ethiopian stewardship, this diminishes his ability to bark orders of ‘surrender now or face the rath of master Gabre’ over the radio, and in some ways his effectiveness will be tied to just how cooperative the Asmara group becomes. Given his past history of ineffective leadership and strategic planning without the DIRECT involvement of external actors (usually Ethiopian troops), why would he put himself in an unusually vulnerable and compromising position that may turn out to save thousands of lives? To some it may seem like not asking much, but I believe this is asking far too much of someone whom has never shown any foresight, honor or inclination towards the greater good in a political career spanning decades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted June 4, 2008 How can somalis reconcile when they are not even allowed to sort out their differences? What are the Ethiopians doing there exactly. It's like boxing ring, where you have each side giving their man a back massage before he goes into the match and telling him what to do. That is not the way to reconcile. If this is a somali problem, then somalis without outside interference should be allowed to settle their dispuutes, otherwise it will be another waste of Djabutian space. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites