Thankful Posted May 21, 2010 Originally posted by Kashafa: Duke, He can expect a fair, transparent, and public trial where he will be afforded the chance to plead his case and explain to the Islamic Court, and to the Somali people, why he did what he did and any mitigating factors that might help his defense. Fair and Transparent public trial? Just like the this one? Mogadishu The only people that are punished are those that don't belong to the dominant clan! This man was Bantu which is why he was subjected to this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted May 21, 2010 Whatever transpired in the capital was in part out of unavoidable policy miscalculation by TFG's own making as it requested for an international peace-keeping forces from the start. That serious request had been ignored and delayed over and over. A government in exile first and then a fragile one holed up in Baid'abo, it was left with no other survival option but to be vanquished and absorbed by an unrepresentative, self-styled former members of al-Itihad al-Islami with warlords like Indha'ade among the top decision makers. Had the disingenous Islamists looked at the bigger picture or agreed to abide by the first accord signed in Khartoum, we won't have been in this mess, as much as I regret to recall the scorching military onslaught meted out on the population by both sides. However understand that Yusuf himself was powerless to play a meaningful role in this conflict. America was obsessed with its war on terror, took some actions that spawned the rise and popularity of the Sheikhs, and then bankrolled Ethiopia to do the dirty job. Yusuf was very ambitious, confident in the application of a military action as a solution besides his unyielding drive and hunger to rule Somalia, gave in to the endorsement of his country's invasion. Unfortunately, it consumed him. But the violence as you see now remains unabated. It's complex yet simple at its root cause. Puntland has stayed out of the fray but it wona't be safe and the trajectory of our ongoing conflict and its many dimensions such as territorial dispute, scarce resources, sectarian, clan hegemony will reinforce opposing groups over the fate of Somalia's polity. I observed our views and beliefs now appear to be converging on an understandable platform that spells out how dissatisfied we are with the ugly status quo. For the first time, ever since I joined SOL, many of our people agree on the need for a united Somalia and are willing to compromise for the bigger cause. In most cases, the masses even in the Diaspora yearn for this dream of Somalia once again standing high with pride and dignity. They are however strapped by the circumstances unique to the average Somali family living away from home. They find themselves in the maze of a complex web of social and political relations, the product of ill-informed exchange of rumors, exaggerated sense of vengeance being meted out to a rival clan, etc. I recall the emotionally charged allegation (now regurgitated by Keligii Muslim as he is well known in the forum ) that one community has deployed the enemy of Somalia in vengeance of the 90s massacre and ethnic cleansing? Therefore it serves our made adversaries (Ethiopia nad Kenya) upon the perpetration of our ills and the shameless portrayal of one group to be the source of all mayhem and wanton destruction. The more we confirm the above prejudices and misinformation in our own words and attitude the more we are studied and analyzed for an imprudent regional policy designed to keep us in misery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowke Posted May 21, 2010 Abdullahi Yusuf was right on some Issues such as federalism but he was dead wrong on bringing ethiopians!!! At the end of the day abdullahi doesnt have local support in hamar and when all is said and done for any government to be successful they need local support in hamar PERIOD!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowke Posted May 21, 2010 Nuune, lol at what? The fact of on the ground is very clear for even the most naive of persons. Without local support in mogadishu no government will work!!! No matter how many times we try to install a government it just won't work without the support of the locals. The question is rather then saying this person was right or that person was wrong is pointless because we are still stateless regardless who is right and wrong. We need to get out of this statelessness that we are in and then maybe we can start talking about who is right and wrong!!! Right now Somalia needs a government, thats all it needs it doesn't need to revisit old wounds or clan card or religious card!!! People are dying for nothing today over there. I personally just want to see a Government that is effective and can bring law and order to the nation, If that person is from my clan wonderful, if that person is not from my clan then I am prepared to swallow my pride and support whatever government that can make somalia be nation again!!! But the last thing I dont want to see is the current stalemate we have been in for the past 20 years because noone wins we all lose at the end of the day except a few people at the top of the pecking order who make profit out of it!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber_Nomad Posted May 21, 2010 THE ONE MAN WHO IS BETTER THAN ABDULLAHI YUSUF Jamac Cali Jamac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 21, 2010 ^^ leave Adeer Jama be lad. Kashafa what can I say, Yusuf even in retirement is more effective to the Somali cause than Al Shabaab, who are nothing more than a case study for craziness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites