Somali girls and the naked truth

[Hibo]

Hello each and every reader,

I couldn't resist to drop some comments regarding this heated gender-related topic posted by our deeply concerned brother.

 

Mr.J is obviously talking out of experience, however that doesn't give him the right to put us "queens" in one narrow box and lump us together as if we were one big extended family.

 

Instead of getting oppressed with the heat and bad mouthing him, I asume it would be wise girls/guys to ask our fella brother why he flew into a such a rage.....hopefully we could come up with a solution to his dilemma and furiousness.

 

Mr.J, is just being expressive, maybe there is something to what he is implying, maybe our brother is being deceived by his dream queen or queens for that matter and left him in the lurch several times, maybe and maybe. We don't know why he's feeling this anger towards the somali rare female species.......and that is why I took the liberty to speculate( please do correct me if I'm a muttonhead speculator), we shouldn't misconstrue him or go to an onslaught attack to Mr.J.

 

I'm presimental that he is just testing us "queens" and see if we develop a fit of temper...unfortunately, some of us did too.

 

Mr.J, I just want to conclude that there are both good and bad ppl in both genders, so please don't say all somali girls are the same...it would be logic if you said those within your circle of female acquaintances are.

 

Be good and God bless the Queens and Kings of Somalia.

 

[Hibo]

Applause! Applause! Bravo! Bravo!

Well said Bohemian, what else can i say? I truly think you are only understanding individual, and i wonna take back my friends remarks about all Somali women. I say some of them are bad only few of them.

 

[Deeq A.]

MrJibriiL, sorry brother. Some of the data got deleted by accident but we recovered it all. Our apoligies for that.

 

Thanks Bro

Somalia Online Team

[Hibo]

Admin, Dont worry

 

It is understandable for you to loose some data in the process of switching servers and and services. Appologies accepted.

 

It is all about mutual respect and understanding thats brought us here into this website and we should continue to hold the same respect for each other.

 

Thank you for recovering that data

 

God bless

 

[Hibo]

I couldn't put it more into better words that mohammedjama did even though i'm

a poet. and Jibril is right when he says that he had a question and should be listened to it, even is its loaded!

In the game of life there're men and women and they're intragral to all life.

Understanding , learning and patience are the simplest yet most basic units to any union.

My people have suffered more than any could comprehend, thats not also to excuse any habits that may hinder their lives to move on for in the future.

Jibril there is no need to finget point one gender over another and the're both in this.

Its all about communicating. It saddens me sometimes to see my people still arguing about all the "nothings" and talk about nothing of all that is "everything."

I can tell you the non somalis or what ever are so much scrowed up , you will never comprehend, try them sometimes. Man they are the most meanest people you can ever imagine.

come on! you do an imaginable things to ones one parents and you expect them to be good to you, i'm all thankfull that Allah made me a somali. You can, like take it were you left of anytime and everyone is your uncle and aunt, where do you get that!

I have never come across like the somali LOVE

and truesality that a companies it.

they believe so much of and trust all that sometimes it shocks, someone girl like me.

It might cause me to flee, but not becouse i don't want it but coz its too good to be true.

then if u only have to understand that its true to rely on it.

The world has emptied of trust and girls are vonulrable than you can emagine, so there is no harm in one protecting self.

All we have to do is listen to what the other is not saying. the silence.

I hope to Allah that the beauty of my culture and its people with resume someday.

Till then.

 

With Luv.

IDIIL.

 

[Hibo]

I couldn't put it more into better words that mohammedjama did even though i'm

a poet. and Jibril is right when he says that he had a question and should be listened to it, even is its loaded!

In the game of life there're men and women and they're intragral to all life.

Understanding , learning and patience are the simplest yet most basic units to any union.

My people have suffered more than any could comprehend, thats not also to excuse any habits that may hinder their lives to move on for in the future.

Jibril there is no need to finget point one gender over another and the're both in this.

Its all about communicating. It saddens me sometimes to see my people still arguing about all the "nothings" and talk about nothing of all that is "everything."

I can tell you the non somalis or what ever are so much scrowed up , you will never comprehend, try them sometimes. Man they are the most meanest people you can ever imagine.

come on! you do an imaginable things to ones one parents and you expect them to be good to you, i'm all thankfull that Allah made me a somali. You can, like take it were you left of anytime and everyone is your uncle and aunt, where do you get that!

I have never come across like the somali LOVE

and truesality that a companies it.

they believe so much of and trust all that sometimes it shocks, someone girl like me.

It might cause me to flee, but not becouse i don't want it but coz its too good to be true.

then if u only have to understand that its true to rely on it.

The world has emptied of trust and girls are vonulrable than you can emagine, so there is no harm in one protecting self.

All we have to do is listen to what the other is not saying. the silence.

I hope to Allah that the beauty of my culture and its people with resume someday.

Till then.

 

With Luv.

IDIIL.

 

[Hibo]

I couldn't put it more into better words that mohammedjama did even though i'm

a poet. and Jibril is right when he says that he had a question and should be listened to it, even is its loaded!

In the game of life there're men and women and they're intragral to all life.

Understanding , learning and patience are the simplest yet most basic units to any union.

My people have suffered more than any could comprehend, thats not also to excuse any habits that may hinder their lives to move on for in the future.

Jibril there is no need to finget point one gender over another and the're both in this.

Its all about communicating. It saddens me sometimes to see my people still arguing about all the "nothings" and talk about nothing of all that is "everything."

I can tell you the non somalis or what ever are so much scrowed up , you will never comprehend, try them sometimes. Man they are the most meanest people you can ever imagine.

come on! you do an imaginable things to ones one parents and you expect them to be good to you, i'm all thankfull that Allah made me a somali. You can, like take it were you left of anytime and everyone is your uncle and aunt, where do you get that!

I have never come across like the somali LOVE

and truesality that a companies it.

they believe so much of and trust all that sometimes it shocks, someone girl like me.

It might cause me to flee, but not becouse i don't want it but coz its too good to be true.

then if u only have to understand that its true to rely on it.

The world has emptied of trust and girls are vonulrable than you can emagine, so there is no harm in one protecting self.

All we have to do is listen to what the other is not saying. the silence.

I hope to Allah that the beauty of my culture and its people with resume someday.

Till then.

 

With Luv.

IDIIL.

 

[Hibo]

IDIL Thank you, sister

 

I loved your poetry, your are talented and thats why you understand more than many so-called wannabe Independent.

 

Mac salaama

[Hibo]

Salaama Caleykum every1 & especially to the Poster!

 

It's my 1st time here & I was guided to dis great site by sum1 who posted a reply in SomaliNet.com and refered to MrJibriil & to be honest I went straight to the last page in order for me to reply-I didn't even read what MrJibriil initially wrote (only the a copy)

 

I find this topic interestin yet borin, or should I say typical, at the same time. U c everybody knows u cant put everybody into the same box* (which I'm sure u must have been reminded of 100's of times!) u cant even put 2 identical twins into the same box*.

*by box I mean the exact same category

 

Funnily I always saw dis problem with lack of understandin & communication to be a problem which excisited amongst the male counterpart.

 

1 thing which I believe u wrote stated the followin:

"Why would you praise a girl who is even hard to deal with or understand? You can deal with a deaf/blind individual knowing that they have a disabilty, but Somali girls dont have any, they are naturally dumb. Their stupidity never ends as we (men) don't see that stupidity, their brainless approach to guys becomes the evidence that they have nothing in common with normal women"

 

Walaal if dats ur point of view, that would make Somali men twice as dumb as the so-called naturally dumb girl,

#1 for not seeing dat stupidity-as u said- #2 for not dealin with the HARD evidence of Somali girls so-called 'brainless approach' in an appropriate way!

 

Another point is dat a person's personality is often effected by the people whom one socialise & associates with! This goes for communication as well as other interpersonal skills!

 

It seems as though ur speakin out of experience

I pray to Allah dat u may find a Somali girl whom will rock ya world! Just have an open mind & don't give up hope!

 

Lots of luv ExDane ur sis

I'll be back soon to hear 4rom ya, but first I'll become a member, I hate postin Anonymously!

[Hibo]

Salaama Caleykum every1 & especially to the Poster!

 

It's my 1st time here & I was guided to dis great site by sum1 who posted a reply in SomaliNet.com and refered to MrJibriil & to be honest I went straight to the last page in order for me to reply-I didn't even read what MrJibriil initially wrote (only the a copy)

 

I find this topic interestin yet borin, or should I say typical, at the same time. U c everybody knows u cant put everybody into the same box* (which I'm sure u must have been reminded of 100's of times!) u cant even put 2 identical twins into the same box*.

*by box I mean the exact same category

 

Funnily I always saw dis problem with lack of understandin & communication to be a problem which excisited amongst the male counterpart.

 

1 thing which I believe u wrote stated the followin:

"Why would you praise a girl who is even hard to deal with or understand? You can deal with a deaf/blind individual knowing that they have a disabilty, but Somali girls dont have any, they are naturally dumb. Their stupidity never ends as we (men) don't see that stupidity, their brainless approach to guys becomes the evidence that they have nothing in common with normal women"

 

Walaal if dats ur point of view, that would make Somali men twice as dumb as the so-called naturally dumb girl,

#1 for not seeing dat stupidity-as u said- #2 for not dealin with the HARD evidence of Somali girls so-called 'brainless approach' in an appropriate way!

 

Another point is dat a person's personality is often effected by the people whom one socialise & associates with! This goes for communication as well as other interpersonal skills!

 

It seems as though ur speakin out of experience

I pray to Allah dat u may find a Somali girl whom will rock ya world! Just have an open mind & don't give up hope!

 

Lots of luv ExDane ur sis

I'll be back soon to hear 4rom ya, but first I'll become a member, I hate postin Anonymously!

[Hibo]

Hi everybody I'm just testin dis site, I've just become a member coz I don't like postin Anonymously, but approx. 5mins ago I posted a reply (prior to becomin a member) & it seems as though the reply hasn't come up on the message board yet, so I was wonderin whether dis was a normal thing to happen or whether I gotta re-type it all again.

 

1 Love yo sis ExDane

[Hibo]

ExDane first and foremost welcome to Somalia Online forums. I am happy to see you heer discussiong and enquiring about matters that concern both Somali male/female population. Secondly, you are absolutely correct to say that this issue has been discussed over and over again, but the fact is that it hasn't been solved yet. It is u and me to find an exceptable solution that can over-come this little problem we seem to have between us. I am not quite sure what rekindles your passion of discussing topics but i'd like to assure you that I PERSONALLY posted this topic with one aim in mind. The aim was and still is to gap the bridge of communication between both sexes. Although i quite explicitly and with anger described Somali girls as dumb, but those opening remarks of mine weren't intentional at all.

 

Now, let get down to the matter in hand shall we?

[Hibo]

MrJibriil I believe that certain things should remain a mystery just for the fun of it & for the exitement. I believe everybody have their own personal view on dis subject matter & everybody should have an exceptable solution to this NOT so little problem.

 

The reason why I love discussing topics is purely b'coz I love being educated, learning new facts & gettin to see things through a 'different pair of glasses'.

 

Walaal about ur aim, damn dats enormous, huge and an un-obtainable! But I wish u all de best & 'where there's a will there's a way'. Perhaps u'll be able to add to or help bridging the gap but u'd need help & it looks like u've got it! (when u look at the many people who have replied)

 

Sumtimes is best to hurt sum1 by tellin them what u really think instead of sayin what u'd think they (girls) would like to hear.

 

Communication is a skill which is innate but only to a certain and very basic extend. Communication is learnt through one's environmental surrounding & have to be practiced throughout one's life.

 

The ability to communicate is more or less equal between men and women.

 

I think the problem with communication within the Somali community is the fact that many things are seen as inappropriate to discuss openly and somethings should never be discussed. But why is that? I would be very bored if I couldn't exercise my right to say what I wished to say! I think most of these things are the cause of ignorance & in some ways lack of knowledge.

 

But Insha Allah in time we'll learn to overcome this! All we need is faith & the will & most importantly patience!

 

Say what u wanna say, when u wanna say it, where u wanna say it-BUT make sure u say it with care, there is always other ways of explainin 1 thing just take a different road, but be sure dat u'll end up @ the same destination!

 

Let me know what u think.

 

Lots of luv ExDane ur sista

[blue]

[Hibo]

Bismillahi Raxmaani Raxiim

 

"The moral standards of the woman in a society are always an extension of the men's morals and behaviors"

 

If we accept that above statement then it is clear that the Somali men are to blame if the woman are bad as Jibriil claims. I would personally say that the failure of the Somali men is a fundamental change in Somali society.

 

Never before in our history have Somali men been this unproductive, this big drugabusers, this big Sineeystayaal, this big clan extremists etc etc. If this is true which it is then how can we as somali men not assume that our looserness is going to rubb of on the woman of our society?

 

Let us be true to ourselves, I was in Hargeysa this summer and I live in the US and let me tell you that in both places Somali woman are progressive while we men are degenerating into a state of nothingness(majority). The woman back home are the ones bringing in the money to the children while the men go and chew in the mafrish, the woman work for unity while the men are obsessed with politcs and clan divisions.

 

I have seen so many Somali guys here in the dispora who drink alcohol, do heavy drugs(let alone qaad), have earrings, have tattoes, have sex before marriage, fight with their parents, become criminals etc and I have myself done a few of those things when I was new to America(I was a Jahiil) but I learned the truth Alxamdulillah.

 

Therefore Jibriil I think it is unacceptable to mention Somali woman in a negative light when we as men are the root causes for this cultural demise. The Truth about Somali woman are that they are very strong and do not accept everything like gaalo woman and some Somali youths don't like that(I used to be one of them).

 

Somali woman are what saved the Somali people from complete annihilation which we at many points were near.

 

Asalamacaleykum

 

Janna-Doon