TFG's flip-flop politics

[Jacpher]

While TFG is struggling to find military support from the International community, their flip-flop policies is becoming an everyday occurrence. They made a complete U-turn on the following issues.

 

• No foreign troops allowed [Defence Minister Hiiraale]

• Somali-Ethio Border eliminated, unite both countries under single passport [interior Minister Hussein Aideed]

• Disarm Moqdisho by force after three day deadline [Prime Minister Ali Geedi]

• US air strickes killed senior Al-Qaeda members in Southern Somalia [Abdirizak Hassan, president’s chief of staff]

• No negotiations with defeated “terrorists” ICU leadership [Prime Minister Ali Geedi]

What's next? More flip-flop?

 

Somalia: Islamists Invited Back for Dialogue

 

Cyrus Ombati

Nairobi

 

The Somalia Government wants Kenya to hand Union of Islamic Courts leader, Sheikh Sharrif Ahmed, over to them.

 

Prime minister Mohamed Ghedi said they want Sharif and his deposed supporters to participate in the ongoing reconciliation talks.

 

"We want

all UIC officials

and supporters including Sheiikh Sharrif to come to Mogadishu for the talks in Somalia," he said.

 

He said he believes Kenya will hand over all immigrants that have been arrested to participate in the ongoing talks.

 

Ghedi added that none of them would be persecuted in Mogadishu since his Government's aim is to restore peace and order rather than revenge.

The prime minister addressed several diplomats at a Nairobi hotel to highlight on what his Government has done since it landed in Mogadishu two weeks ago.

 

He made the address hours after the Kenya government admitted that it was holding the UIC leader who surrendered on Sunday.

 

Government Spokesman Dr Alfred Mutua said police are still interrogating Sharrif without disclosing his whereabouts.

 

Ghedi announced that the Transitional Federal Government is now in control of the entire country.

 

He said they have installed a mayor and his deputy in Mogadishu and plans are underway to appoint district commissioners across the country.

He said the country's new Speaker will be known in a week's time following the sacking of the former one.

 

Ghedi also appealed to the international community to assist Somalia restore order. He said the TFG police are now in at all police stations in the country and have exerted their authority.

Source

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

The TFG knows that they have no support from the people. none, zilch.

 

The ICU was telling the TFG to leave Baidio and come to Mogadishu so they could negotiate power sharing. But the TFG ignored that welcome and decided to enter Mogadishu with Ethiopian Tanks and helicopter.

 

I won’t mind if the ICU does the same thing now but for the sake of our country they should walk into Mogadishu with their Heads high, ready to negotiate.

 

Insha’allah the people will welcome them back with open arms, they should thank them for the six months of utopia the ICU brought.

[Taako Man]

Geedi is being politically correct. Smart move. Obviously welcoming back bits and parts of the ICU are a welcomed political manoeuvre. I hardly doubt the real muscle behind the ICU (AWEYS, INDHACADDE, CEYROOW) are going to be welcomed. I rather think it would be in their best interest that they stay in the a forein country seeking political asylum.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

^^^

 

Okay, my friend before I accuse you of lacking reading intellectual capacities. I will quote what the article states, so you could read it again. Maybe, just maybe you have missed that essential part of the article which will contradict your whole comment.

 

"We want

all UIC officials

and supporters including Sheiikh Sharrif to come to Mogadishu for the talks in Somalia," he said.

There, compare that to what you said. Gedi is welcoming all, which includes those men you have mentioned. They are the officials of the ICU. Not some bits or just several of them are being welcomed as you believe.

[Taako Man]

^ Reading is fundamental. I agree. But you've got to look further in his statement. Saying one thing and following it accordingly are two different animals. up untill the 11th hour the American government said it was not going to attack Iraq or it was not targeting terrorist hideouts in the South of Somalia, but we all know the aftermath.

 

 

I can gurantee you 100% Sheik Shariif and Sheik Cadoow are the only ones being welcomed. Remember 'moderates' is the stance of the international community.

 

You can hardly think a man on the US terror watch list like Aweys, Ceyroow etc would be welcomed openly LOOOOL. If you think otherwise then your up for a good smelling of the proverbial coffee.

[Taako Man]

Politics teaches most people to never believe what you hear/see at first sight . Almost always there is an underlying message of fallacity behind every political chess move. Everything is staged and everything is said for a REASON. What looks good to you today is tommorows gloom and doom.

[Jacpher]

Almost always there is an underlying message of fallacity behind every political

chess

move.

Everything

is staged and everything is said for a REASON. What looks good to you today is tommorows

gloom and doom.

Talow TFG included in that everything chess game move statement.

[Taako Man]

Originally posted by Jimcaale:

quote:Almost always there is an underlying message of fallacity behind every political

chess

move.

Everything

is staged and everything is said for a REASON. What looks good to you today is tommorows

gloom and doom.

Talow TFG included in that everything chess game move statement.

We will have to wait for tommorow and see. Quite possibly tommorows Somalia could be one in which we are sending peace-keeping troops to prevent the OLF and ONLF from killing off the smaller Tigrey

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Taako

 

Reading between the lines is something I know how to do, but you can’t state your assumptions of what Gedi meant. The man moved his lips. You should know that in politics people use the words you uttered against you.

 

And sxb, Gedi could have stated his statement in a certified manner, which could have easily underscored and distinguished between the ICU officials.

 

Besides America was planning to attack Iraq from the beginning and everyone knew that America has Special Forces in the Horn of African to track down terrorists. America never denied that. However Ethiopia and the TFGoons were denying that there were any Ethiopian troops present in Somalia soil! Some filthy liars they are.

 

So don’t compare the gifted illusory American Intelligence with that of the Goat Doc, who is rationally short of being proficient to use words in a political demeanor.

[Taako Man]

^ If you see Dahir aweys and Aden Hashi Ceyroow and Yusuf siyad welcomed or better yet just ONE of them welcomed I will become an ICU supporter ! OK?

 

his statement is to put down fears of his supposed north Xamar subjugation on the south of it. Do you understand? Politics is free weilding. his statements are a already making you optimistic. Which shows that Geedi is learning politics very well.

[Wisdom_Seeker]

^^^

 

Sxb, you don’t know what makes me pessimistic or what makes me optimistic, so easy with your silly assumptions. You will not easily make falsified observations about my feelings to praise the Goat Doc. I am the slightest bit optimistic about anything the TFG does or says. Nevertheless I try to remain optimistic about my country.

 

All the ICU members could come to Mogadishu and if Gedi arrests them or declines to negotiate with them then the notion of a peaceful Somalia will perish right there, right then. Sheikh Sheriff will not just abandon the other ICU members. He will make sure that his party gets the consideration they deserve. Besides you are underestimating Sheikh Sheriff, which will be a huge mistake on your behalf.

 

And one more thing, he has welcomed Aweys, Indha-Cadde and Co when he said he wants ALL OFFICIALS of the ICU to come to Mogadishu.

 

So define what you meaning by "welcome". Because Gedi wants them all to come to Mogadishu so they could converse.

 

"We want all UIC officials and supporters including Sheiikh Sharrif to come to Mogadishu for the talks in Somalia," he said.

 

The word “ALL” is very essential.

 

I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I am getting the feeling that you do indeed lack reading comprehension.

[Dhabat-Amaanreer]

Originally posted by Jimcaale:

 

 

• No foreign troops allowed [Defence Minister Hiiraale]

My dear lad, I have noticed that your anti-government stance started after Hiiraale fully got on board with the TFG. You were not an ICU supporter before the Kismayo invasion, and it quite obvious that you loathe this man, but for you own good get a grip on yourself before-- some would say it already has-- hate takes over your heart.

 

Also, if I do remember correctly, which I do, Hiiraale said that forign troops are not neccessary because we have enough qualified men in Somalia who can do the job. He sincerly believed that there could be a chance for reconcilation between the TFG and the ICU, mind you this was before the ICU became aggressors and attacked all most everywhere in Southern Somalia.

[Taako Man]

D/P

[Taako Man]

Originally posted by mystic:

^^^

 

Sxb, you don’t know what makes me pessimistic or what makes me optimistic, so easy with your silly assumptions. You will not easily make falsified observations about my feelings to praise the Goat Doc. I am the slightest bit optimistic about anything the TFG does or says. Nevertheless I try to remain optimistic about my country.

 

 

All the ICU members could come to Mogadishu and if Gedi arrests them or declines to negotiate with them then the notion of a peaceful Somalia will perish right there, right then. Sheikh Sheriff will not just abandon the other ICU members. He will make sure that his party gets the consideration they deserve. Besides you are underestimating Sheikh Sheriff, which will be a huge mistake on your behalf.

 

And one more thing, he has welcomed Aweys, Indha-Cadde and Co when he said he wants

ALL OFFICIALS

of the ICU to come to Mogadishu.

 

So define what you meaning by "welcome". Because Gedi wants them all to come to Mogadishu so they could converse.

 

"We want

all

UIC officials and supporters including Sheiikh Sharrif to come to Mogadishu for the talks in Somalia," he said.

 

The word “ALL” is very essential.

 

I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I am getting the feeling that you do indeed lack reading comprehension.

If you believe everything you read and hear from politicians, then you'll come to realize that taking everything literal is to your detriment and your health. The ICU as a whole is done. Never will you see Aweys, Ceyroow and Co welcomed by a government. If you choose to take literal what Geedi says then so be it. TIME WILL TELL. Surely I WILL REMIND YOU OF THIS POST WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.

[Captain Xalane]

Those are not flip flops,u are being told only what u would want to hear.Things are not easy and Somalia is absolutely not easy to Govern.Again,those are not flip flops.