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Ismail Buubaa: The division of Somali TFG is media hype and Somaliland's recognition is fantasy

 

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Awdalnews Network

 

 

Ismail Mahumd Hurre (Buubaa) Somali Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of International Cooperation "There is no division within the Somali Transitional Federal Government, TFG, but there is a difference of opinion"

Abu Dhabi, 16 Sept. 2005--"It is unfortunate that the Somali media which also feeds the international media has to exaggerate a non-existing reality. There is no division within the Somali Transitional Federal Government, TFG, but there is a difference of opinion. The government is one, there is no division and no party has declared to have withdrawn from it but the dispute is whether to move the seat of the government to Mogadishu straightaway or through a corridor. The cabinet has made a decision that the government should make a stopover in Baidhoba and Jowahar before it relocates permanently to Mogadishu."

 

The statement was made by Ismail Mahmud Hurre (Buubaa), Somali Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of International Cooperation, during an interview with Bashir Goth, editor of the independent online news service Awdalnews Network in Abu Dhabi (on Thursday 15th Sept. 2005) where the Minister was on a working visit.

 

Ismail Buubaa said that some of the warlords in Mogadishu were saying that the government should go to Mogadishu and the rest of the government bodies were saying "Yes, it is the right thing that the government should go to Mogadishu but it is a right thing being used for the wrong purpose'. He asserted that the real intention of such individuals was to kill the government in Mogadishu.

 

"This is why it is necessary for the Somali media to correct itself and study the realities on the ground," he said, noting that many people have now awoken to the reality including the Parliament Speaker who was one of the advocates of the immediate government relocation to Mogadishu.

 

He noted that the Speaker had realized that no one was interested to remove the illegal and coercive checkpoints in the capital and that the real objective behind the call for the relocation to Mogadishu was a trick aimed at persuading the government to go to Mogadishu then to stifle and kill it.

 

Ismail Buubaa asserted that the Prime Minister would open his office and start his official duties in Mogadishu next week and that the Cabinet Ministers would follow him.

 

Answering a question on when he expected the dispute to be overcome, he said: "You are talking about a dispute between the President and the Parliament Speaker. But you have to know that the majority of the parliament is not with the Speaker. If there is any problem at all it must be within the parliament itself. What is needed, therefore, is the parliament to work to correct itself and the Speaker should abide by the majority rule."

 

He also noted that the whole issue should be discussed and solved within the government bodies and not by settling scores through the media. On his visit to the UAE, Ismail Buubaa said that the Arab leaders had decided in their Summit in Algeria to allocate US$26 million to the TFG and that his visit was to find out the share that every country was willing to contribute and what sectors of the country's rebuilding they were interested to participate.

 

He added that the TFG had laid down a strategy which includes the relocation of the government, the establishment of government federal system starting from district level to regional level, the resettlement and rehabilitation of the various militia forces, the creation of a police force and the reconstruction of the country with a Rapid Assistance Progam (RAP).

 

Somaliland:

 

Commenting on Somaliland's preparation for the parliamentary elections due to be held on September 29, Ismail Buubaa, who himself hails from Somaliland, said that holding an election would not endorse a secession, saying: " I will like the Somailand people to know that an election held in Hargeisa and Borama will not lead to a secession from the rest of Somalia just like the elections held in Aw Barre (Tafri Bar) or Goday didn't not lead to a secession of the Somali region in Ethiopia."

 

Lamenting what he thought was the illusion in which Somaliland people lived over the last 15 years, Ismail Buubaa said: "the people have been entertained over the last 15 years that recognition was coming. Therefore, when the elections are held and recognition doesn't come what will they tell the people. What other lie will they tell the people to convince them that recognition was still on the way. A wish that cannot be fulfilled is just a fantasy. You cannot govern people by fantasies; you have to govern them by reality. There is a difference between a wish or a belief and a tangible reality. The wish is ideological but politics is based on the art of the possible."

 

He asserted that it was ludicrous to entertain people with something that was not going to happen, noting that the President of Somaliland knew and that his cabinet ministers knew as well that there was no promise of recognition coming from any of the European countries, the Arab League or even Africa. Ismail Buubaa who was a Minister in the first Somaliland government that declared the region's secession from the rest of Somalia said: "I was a Minister in the first cabinet of Somaliland but in 1994 the first Somaliland President and I had told the people that secession was not in the interest of the Somaliland people," pointing out that they had reached that conclusion after studying the international law and the political reality in the Horn of Africa.

 

"It is true that Somaliland has special demands and interests. I am one of the founders of Somaliland, I belong to Somaliland and will remain a Somalilander, but I say that it is the interest of Somaliland that it should remain part and parcel of Somalia," he re-iterated.

 

Answering a question on whether his TFG government would study the possibility of holding a referendum in Somaliland to endorse the people's wish according to recognized international laws, Ismail Buubaa said: "First we have to know that there is no compulsion and no one can be forced to do something they don't like to do. And I believe if someone is being compelled here it is the people of Somaliland that are being compelled, because you are not allowed to discuss your view in public. If I go to Hargeisa and voice my opinion on this issue people will tell me that my opinion will cause a conflict and disintegration."

 

He wondered whether Somaliland was ready to create a democratic atmosphere where both the unionist person and the secessionist person could advocate their positions.

 

"If they are ready to create such a democratic atmosphere, I am ready the whole Somali nation will be ready to listen to their wishes," Ismail Buubaa said.

 

On whether the election of Abdillahi Yusuf, former leader of Puntland who had territorial dispute with Somaliland, as a President for Somalia had further hardened Somaliland's position of not holding any kinds of talks with the South, Ismail Buubaa denied that such was the case.

 

"I was one of the people that supported Abdillahi Yusuf's election. I knew him since 1980. Abdillahi Yusuf like any other leader elected by the people is obliged to abide by the people's consent. The issue is not one of a person it is an issue of a whole state with all its bodies, policies and legislature based on democracy and the rule of law. The decision is not in the hands of one person only and no one person can dictate the destiny of the nation by himself alone. Therefore, I don't see this as a problem at all," he said.

 

Voicing his concerns about the upcoming Somaliland elections, Ismail Buubaa urged the people to allow the elections to be held peacefully and to respect the system put in place by the election commission.

 

"When an elected parliament comes to the house, I hope they will face the truth and discuss the realities that are now being put aside in a democratic and free atmosphere," he said.

 

Answering a question on whether the TFG had any dialogue with Somaliland, he said there were no official talks but officials from both sides often met in international forums and exchanged views in an unofficial manner, noting that they always conclude that it is necessary for the TFG to speed up its efforts to establish a stable government and that Somaliland should be spared from any problems from the TFG side.

 

"Therefore, we make a full promise from our side that we will not take any action that may jeapardize the peace and stability of Somaliland. But we have fears that disturbances may flare up from inside Somaliland given the situation there. We have to be prepared for any such eventuality, because any problem that takes place in Somaliland will affect us also and the world will expect us to do something about it. Therefore, we don't like to see any problems in Somaliland at all no matter the source."

 

Editor's note: Somali speaking readers can find the full interview published in Somali.

 

Source: Awdal News Network, Sept 16, 2005

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Ismaaciil Maxamuud Hurre (Buubaa), Ku-Xigeenka-Wasiirka Kowaad ee Xukuumadda Federaalka

 

 

Waxa ayaan darro ah warbaahinta Soomaalida oo

iyaduna habaysa warbaahinta adduunka in ay buunbuuninayso wax aan jirin.

Waxa jirtay odhaah uu Cali Bin Abii Taalib waqtigii iska-hor-imaadka

muslinka uu yidhi Kalimtu Xaq Yuraadu Bihaa Baatil (kalmad xaq ah oo baadil

loogu adeegsanayo). Haddaba kala qaybsanaan jirtaa ma jirto waxase jira

aragtiyo kala duduwan. Dawladu waa mid, ma ay kala jabin, cidi ma ay

caddaysan in ay dawladdii ka baxeen. Nin walba wuxu leeyahay dawladda ayaan

ka mid ahay, laakiin waxa la isku hayaa waxa weeyaan, dawladu miyey toos

Xamar u tagtaa mise intaanay Xamar tegin meel bay sii martaa. Golaha

Wasiiradu go'aan buu gaadhay odhanaya in dawladu Xamar tegideeda u sii marto

laba meelood oo kala ah Baydhaba iyo Jowhar," sidaa waxa yidhi Ismaaciil

Maxamuud Hurre (Buubaa), Ku-Xigeenka-Wasiirka Kowaad ee Xukuumadda

Federaalka Ku Meel Gaadhka Soomaaliyeed isla markaana ah Wasiirka Iskaashiga

Dibedda:

 

Hadalkaas oo ku jiray waraysay uu Bashir Goth oo ka tirsan shabakada

Awdalnews Network kula yeeshay magaalada Abu Dhabi (Khamiistii 15th Sept.

2005) oo uu wasiirku ku marayey socdaal shaqo, wuxu Ismaaciil Buubaa

raaciyey in Qabqablayaal Dagaal oo Xamar jooga ay leeyihiin waan in Xamar la

tagaa, anaguna waxan leenahay Haa waa in Xamar la tagaa waa Eray Xaq ah oo

loo adeegsanayo Baadil oo ah in dawladda lagu baabiiyo. Sidaa awgeed waxa

loo baahan yahay in ay isa saxaan warbaahinta Soomaalidu oo ay eegaan

waaqica jira.

 

Isagoo arrintaa ku tiigaalaya, Ismaaciil Buubaa yidhi: " Markaa ma jiro

dawlad kala qaybsan, waxana jira in dad badani immika ay soo tooseen, oo

Guddoomiyaha Baarlamanku hadda wuu u sheegay in aan Xamar immika sida ay

tahay aan la tegi karayn isaga oo ahaa dadkii ku dacwiyayey in Xamar la

tago. Markaa Guddoomiyha Baarlamanku wuxu gartay in aan isbaarooyinka in

laga qaado aan la doonahayn, waxba aan laga qabanahayn ee ay tahay khiyaamo

la doonayo in dawlada inta halkaa lagu keeno cunaha lagu qabto oo lagu

baabiiyo. Wuu arkayaa oo waxad mooddaa in uu qudhiisu immika ku jiro isa

sixid."

 

Somaliland:

 

Ismaaciil Buubaa isagoo doorashada dadka reer Somaliland u diyaar

garaoobayaan ka hadlaaaya wuxu yidhi: " Doorashaan samaynay kala go' ma

keenayso. Sida aanay doorashada Aw Barre iyo Goday ka dhacday aanay u

keenahayn in dhinacaasi ka go' dalka Itoobiya ayaan doorashada ka dhacda

Hargeysa iyo Boorama u keenahayn in waddanku kala go'.

 

Isaga oo ka faaloonaya muddada badan ee dadka reer Somaliland sugayeen

ictiraaf, Ismaaciil Buubaa wuxu yidhi: "Shan iyo Toban sano ayaa la lahaa

haddaynu sidaa yeelo berrito ayaa la ina ictiraafayaa. Kolka ay doorashadu

dhamaato ee ictiraaf la waayo dadka maxaa loogu warrami doonaa berrito.

Beenta dambe ee la samayn doono ee la odhanayo waxa ku imanaya ictiraaf waa

tee." Wuxu hadalkiisa ku murtiyeeyey isaga oo leh: :" Wax aan suurogal

ahayn, dheri aan bislaanahayn looma saaro ummada oo lama yidhaahdo wax baan

kuu bislaynayaa aan bislaanahayn. Waa ogsoon yihiin Madaxweynaha iyo

Wasiirada Somaliland in aan Somaliland maanta Yurub, Carab, Afrika cid leh

waanu ictiraafaynaa in aan la hayn."

 

Haddaba waraysigiii oo buuxaana waa sidan soo socota:

 

1- Mudane Ismaaciil socdaalkaaga ujeedadiisu maxay tahay, maxaadse ilaa

hadda taageero siyaasadeed iyo mid adduun ka hesheen adduunba ka hesheen

dalalka Carabta?

 

Socdaalkaygu wuxu la xidhiidha qaraarkii lagu gaadhay shirkii Carabta ee

lagu qabtay dalka Algeria oo lagu gaadhay in lagu caawiyo Xukuumadda

Soomaaliyeed US$ 26 malyuun sidii loo dhaqan gelin ahaa oo dawlad waliba

wixii ku soo hagaagay ay bixiso, taasi waa ujeedada kowaad. Ta labaadna waxa

weeyi in aan dawladaha aan kulmayno aan u sharxo dawladda Federalka

Ku-Meel-Gaadhka ahi qaabka ay ku shaqaynayso. Khaastan marxaladda ugu

horreysa ee waddankii ay dib ugu soo noqotay shaqada ay qabanaysaa waxa ay

tahay.

 

Qaabkaas oo la yidhaahdo Dib-u-guuristii dawladda wuxu ka kooban yahay afar

qodob oo kala ah:

 

Kow: Dadkii shirkii Nairoobi ka soo qayb galay dib u celistoodii iyada oo

cid walba lagu celinayo goboladii iyo degmooyinkii ay ka yimaadeen.

 

Laba: Sidii waddanka loogu samayn lahaa nidaam deggan oo ka bilaabma

degmooyinka oo degmo walba laga dhaliyo dib-u-heshiisiin iyo is-af-garad

dabadeedna loo sameeyo maamul, degmo walbana gobolkii ay ka midka ahayd ay

ku biirto iyada oo gobolkana sida degmada oo kale loogu sameeyo maamulkii

iyo hanaankii lagu xukumi lahaa. Waxanan jecelahay in la fahmo in nidaamkii

ay dawladii hore ku shaqaynaysay uu ahaa nidaam dawladda dhexe wax walba

gacanta ku hayso oo afka qalaad loo yaqaan (Centralized) nidaamka hadda la

qaatayna uu yahay nidaam furfuran oo xukunku intuu hoosta ka yimaado uu sare

u socdo oo la yidhaahdo (bottom up) mase aha kii intuu dusha hoosta u

socday.

 

Saddex: Waddanka waa ka war haysaan mudadii dawlad la'aantu ay jirtay

maleeshiyooyin fara badan baa jiray oo qaar wanaagasan oo nidaamka meesha

jira wax ka qabanayey iyo qaar xun oo dadka boobayey labaduba ay jireen.

Markaa qodobkaasi wuxu odhanayaa in Maleeshooyinkaa iyada oo laga bilaabayo

heerka degmada loo sameeyo meelo la dejiyo, dhaqan celis iyo tababar.

 

Afar: Iyadoo haddana laga bilaabayo heer degmo ilaa gobol in lagu kaco sidii

loo dhisi lahaa nidaamkii ciidamada Booliska.

 

Markaa afartaa qodob oo uu dhammaaday qodobka kowaad ee ah dib-u-guurista,

oo qodobka labaad aad mooddo in degmooyinka qaarkood ay dubra shaqadaasi

socoto, qaarkoodna aan dibada uga raadinayno maalgelintii shaqadaa lagu

qaban lahaa ayaa ah mashruuc aanu u bandhigayno dawladaha si dawlad waliba

halka ay iyadu aragto in ay kaalmo ka bixin karaan ka bixiyaan ha noqoto mid

dhaqaale, mid tiknika ah, mid cunta ah, mid dhar amaba mid qalab.

 

Waxa kale oo jira nidaam la yidhaahdo Barnaamija Kaalmada Degdga ah

afka-qalaadna loo yaqaano Rapid Assistance Program (RAP) oo haddii uu

nidaamka Dib-u-Dejintu uu yahay dhigitaankii seeska kan kalena waxa weeyi

dhismihii awoodda oo ah sidii seeskaa loogu dhisi lahaa derbiyadii ee uu u

noqon lahaa wax dhisan oo shaqeeya wuxuna ku fulayaa 12 bilood gudahood.

Mashruuca hore ee Dib-u-Dejintu wuxu ku fulayaa 60-90 maalmood, ka RAP kuna

waxan ugu talo galay sidii 12 bilood gudahood uu nidaamkii dawladnimo uga

shaqayn lahaa dawladda hoose iyo ta dhexe labadaba iyo sidii loo soo celin

lahaa kaabayaashii dhaqaalaha, bulshada, tacliinta, caafimaadka iyo nidaam

dhaqaale oo ku salaysan suuqa xorta ah.

 

Haddaba marka uu mashruuca RAP dhammaado oo 12 bilood la gaadho oo saabka

dawladnimo heer walba uu gaadho in dabadeed la bilaabo mashruucii saddexaad

oo ah Dib-u-Dhiskii waddanka (Reconstruction). Mashruucaas waa daraasad

ballaadhan ah oo iyadoo dawladu eegaysa degmooyinka kala duduwan, manaadiqa

kala duduwan, iyadoo la eegayo waaqica jira oo la ogsoon yahay in qaybo

waddanka ka mid ah oo ay ka mid tahay Somaliland oo ay ka mid tahay Puntland

ay iska leeyihiin maamuladooda in arrinta la bilaabo iyada oo ay ka qayb

qaadan doonaan Bangiga Adduunka, Bangiga Islaamiga ah, Jaamicadda Carabta,

sanaadiiqda Carabta iyo mu'sasaad badan oo caalami ah.Intaa dabeed la qabto

shirkii caalamiga ahaa ee dalka lagu kaalmayn lahaa iyada oo la haysto

macluumaadkii loo baahnaa oo dhan. Arrimahaas ayaan halkan u imid.

 

2- Dawlada TFG way kala jaban tahay. Waxana jirta in garabka Xamar joogaa ay

Cabdillaahi Yuusuf ku eedaynayaan in uu ciidamo Itoobiya dalka keenay oo uu

doonayo in uu Xamar ku qabsado arrintaa siday wax uga jiraan?

 

Arrintaas waxa ayaan darro ah warbaahinta Soomaalida oo iyaduna habaysa

warbaahinta adduunka in ay buunbuuninayso wax aan jirin. Waxa jirtay odhaah

uu Cali Bin Abii Taalib waqtigii iska-hor-imaadka muslinka uu yidhi Kalimtu

Xaq Yuraadu Bihaa Baatil (kalmad xaq ah oo baadil loogu adeegsanayo).

Haddaba kala qaybsanaan jirtaa ma jirto waxase jira aragtiyo kala duduwan.

Dawladu waa mid, ma ay kala jabin, cidi ma ay caddaysan in ay dawladdii ka

baxeen. Nin walba wuxu leeyahay dawladda ayaan ka mid ahay, laakiin waxa la

isku hayaa waxa weeyaan, dawladu miyey toos Xamar u tagtaa mise intaanay

Xamar tegin meel bay sii martaa. Golaha Wasiiradu go'aan buu gaadhay

odhanaya in dawladu Xamar tegideeda u sii marto laba meelood oo kala ah

Baydhaba iyo Jowhar.

 

Arrintaas dad baa ka soo horjeestay oo yidhi waa in Xamar la tagaa.

Dadkaasina waxay isugu jiraan laba qaybood. Qayb daacad ah oo aan Xamar

dhibaatada taalla aan aad u aqoon, aadna u dersin oo caadifad uuni ay waddo.

Qaarna waxay doonayaan in dawladda sidii tii Carta iyada oo aan diyaar

ahayn, iyada oo aan weli xoogaysan in ay halkaa timaado oo cunaha lagu qabto

oo halkaa lagu baabiiyo. Horta labadaas bay u qaybsan yihiin. Waaqicuna waxa

weeyi dawladu way shirtay toddoba bilood oo ay Nairoobi joogtay, daraasad

bay samaysay, waxayna garatay in aan ahmiyadu ahayn Xamar tegida ee ahmiyadu

tahay in Dib-u-Noqoshada dawladu ka bilaabanto degmooyinka iyo gobolada.

Waayo dawladii Carta iyada oo aan waxba dersin ayey Xamar tegtay, mashaakil

badan bay la kulantay, ammaan darro badan baa jirtay oo sidaa ayey ku

baaba'day. Tanina in ay sidaas ku baaba'do ma rabno.

 

Haddaba Qabqablayaal Dagaal oo Xamar jooga ayaa waxay leeyihiin waan in

Xamar la tagaa, anaguna waxan leenahay Haa waa in Xamar la tagaa waa Eray

Xaq ah oo loo adeegsanayo Baadil oo ah in dawladda lagu baabiiyo. Sidaa

awgeed waxa loo baahan yahay in ay isa saxaan warbaahinta Soomaalidu oo ay

eegaan waaqica jira.

 

Markaa ma jiro dawlad kala qaybsan, waxana jira in dad badani immika ay soo

tooseen, oo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamanku hadda wuu u sheegay in aan Xamar immika

sida ay tahay aan la tegi karayn isaga oo ahaa dadkii ku dacwiyayey in Xamar

la tago. Markaa Guddoomiyha Baarlamanku wuxu gartay in aan isbaarooyinka in

laga qaado aan la doonahayn, waxba aan laga qabanahayn ee ay tahay khiyaamo

la doonayo in dawlada inta halkaa lagu keeno cunaha lagu qabto oo lagu

baabiiyo. Wuu arkayaa oo waxad mooddaa in uu qudhiisu immika ku jiro isa

sixid.

 

Anagu waxan leenahay dawladu waxay leedahay golayaal. Golaha baarlamanku waa

ka ugu muhiimsan, golaha wasiiradu waa gole culus, markaa waxan qabnaa in ay

tahay in dawladu ku wada hadasho golayaasha dhexdooda ee ma aha in ay

warbaahinta iska weerarto amaba wax iskugu sheegto. Sidaa awgeed dawlada

garabkeeda fulistu wuxu goostay in uu Jowhar u guuro, sidaana way ku

guurtay, waanay ku deggan tahay, Jowharna waa meel aad u deggan oo aan

dhibaato lahayn, waana qayb ka mid ah Xamar, waa Banaadir, markaa anagu

umaba aragno in dawladu ay ka maqan tahay Xamar.

 

Usbuuca soo socda Wasiirka-Kowaad xafiiskiisii Xamar iyo shaqadii uu Xamar

ka qaban lahaa ayuu bilaabayaa. Wasiiradu way tegayaan. Waxaan markii hore u

tegi weynay in la sameeyo meel ay dawladdu ka hawl geli karto oo haddii ay

dhibaato dhacdo ay ku shaqaysan karto. Markaa Jowhar immika waa diyaar,

waddooyinkeedii iyo maamulkeedii. Markaa waxay dawladu hadda bilaabaysaa in

ay gasho Xamar. Sidaas oo kale waxa loo baahan yahay in Baarlamankuna sida

garabka fulinta oo kale uu Baydhaba u guuro, hawshiisii iyo guddiyadiisii

dhisto, Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaankuna shaqadii loo igmaday ee ahayd in uu

Baarlamaanka maamulo ma aha in uu dawladda maamulo in uu galo. Haddii uu

leeyahay Xamar bay iigu suurtoobaysaa anagu ma aragno in taasi waaqic tahaye

waa mid la eegi karo. Markaa waxa immika aad loo hadal hayaa in beeshii uu

ka dhashay u yeedho oo Baydhabo loogu yeedho oo uu Barlamaankii laamihiisii

iyo guddiyadiisu dhiso oo isaga oo kobcay oo xoogle uu Xamar tego.

 

3- Dawladaada Jowhar joogtaa ma Maxamad Dheere ayey marti u tahay mise

magaalada iyada ayaa maamusha. Waayo maalin dhaweyd kolkii ay shaqaalaha

Qaramada Midoobay magaalada ka baxeen Maxamed Dheere xafiisyadii ururrada

caalamiga ayuu la wareegay oo mar dambe uu soo celiyey, taasina waxay

dawladaada u keenaysaa magac xumo, markaa Maxamad Dheere waa maxay kaalintuu

kaga jiraa maamulka dawlada?

 

Horta nidaamka dawladeed ee aan qaadanay waa nidaam siinaya dawlada sare in

ay dhisto nidaamkii iyo qawaaniintii guud ee dalka. Degmada Jowhar ma aha

meel ay xukunto dawlada dhexe, maamul baa ka jira, maamulka way

ixtiraamaysaa. Maamulka dhexe in yar buu joogayaa, wuu ka guurayaa, wuxu ku

socdaa Xamar. Xamar qudheedu waxay ka kooban tahay 16 degmo oo aan doonayno

in mid walba maamulkeeda loo sameeyo. Degmooyinkuna ay hadhow doortaan Duqii

magaalada. Dawladda dhexe waxa go'aamadeeda ku qeexan in ay dawladaha hoose

uga dambayso xukunkooda oo dawlad dhexe oo cabudhisa maamulka degmooyinka

iyo gobolada anagu ma rabno. Markaa Maxamad Dheere xaq buu u leeyahay in uu

kala dambayntii iyo maamulka gobolka uu madaxda ka yahay gacanta ku qabto.

Hase yeeshee wada shaqaynta ururrada adduunka waxa ku shaqo leh Dawlada

Dhexe laakiin Maxamad Dheere amniga isaga ayaa ku shaqo leh.

 

4- Dad badani waxay u arkaan in ay dawladani u muuqato in ay marayso

dariiqii dawladii Carta lagu dhisay oo ay fashilantay, mar haddii aan maanta

aragno Madaxweynihii iyo Guddoomiyihii baarlamanka oo iyaga oo kala socda

midba gaarkiisa u tegay qaramada midoobay?

 

Arrintaa in khilaafkaasi uu jiro cid waliba way qiraysaa. Laakiinse dawladan

iyo tii Carta lagu soo sameeyey aad iyo aad bay u kala duwan yihiin.

Dawladani waxay la timid hab cusub oo nidaamkii dawladii Carta ku

shaqaynaysay wuu socon waayey. Iyada oo ay sidaa tahay ummada Soomaaliyeed

sagaalkii sano ee ugu horreeyey ee aynu nidaamka baarlamaanka ku soconay

mooyee intii ka dambaysay nidaam diktaatoori ah ayaa waddanka haystay,

waxana loo haystay madaxweynuhu wuxu yidhaahdo cid ka daba hadli kartaaba in

aanu jirin.

 

Nidaamkaan immika wadnaa waa mid furfuran oo mar dhaw ay waddanka axsaaba

badani ku loolami doonto. Waa nidaam qiraya baarlamaanka ninka ka madaxda

ahi, maamulka baarlamaanka iyo shaqadiisuba in aanay ahayn mid hoos timaada

garabka fulinta. Nidaamkani waa hab dadka ku cusub oo wax adduunka caadi ka

ah ayaan xaggeena caadi ka ahayn. Kolkaa nin baarlamaanka ka mid ahi kolkuu

la hadlo madaxweynaha dadka Soomaalidu way la yaabayaan oo waa wax ku cusub.

Sidaa awgeed waxyaabaha idiinku muuqda wax gurracan anagu uma aragno wax

gurracan ee waa nidaam cusub oo qaybaha kala duwan ee dawladdu qayb walba

wax ay xaq u leedahay ay wadato. Markaa nidaamkii shumuuliga ahaa ee

madaxweynhuhu maxkamadda u sheegayey waxa qofka lagu xukumayo waa la soo

dhaafay.

 

5- Inteed u malaynaysaa in ay qaadanayso khilaafka labda dhinac ka dhexeeya

in la soo af-jaro oo meel dhexe la isugu yimaado?

 

Mashkalada ugu weyni waxa weeyi waxad ka hadlaysa khilaaf ka dhexeeya

Madaxweynihii iyo Guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka. Baarlamaanka badidiisu lama

joogo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka. Haddii khalal meesha ku jiro waxan odhan

karnaa Baarlamaanka dhexdiisa ayuu ku jiraa markaas. Haddaba baarlamaanka

waa in laga shaqeeyaa oo la hagaajiya oo Guddoomiya qudhiisu uu u

hoggaansamaa aqlabiyadda Baarlamaanku waxa ay doonayaan.

 

Waa arrimo inagu cusub oo aan maalin iyo laba sidii la doonayey aan ugu

shaqaynahayn oo tijaabo ku jira, laakiin Baarlamaanka aqlabiyadiisu isma

hayo, haddii la isugu yeedhana diyaar buu u yahay in uu isu

yimaado.Laakiinse waxa isugu yeedhi kara Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka.

Baarlamaanka badidiisu waxay arkaan Xamar in aanay diyaar ahayn oo meel

Baarlamaan lagu shiriyo hadda in aanay ahayn. Kolkaas arrintaasi waxay u

baahnaanaysa baarlamaanka dhexdiisa in lagaga wada hadlo.

 

6- Adigu waxa tahay nin u dhashay Somaliland/ ama gobolada woqooyi haddaba

kii aad rumaysan tahay, waxaanad ogtahay in Somaliland maanta ay u diyaar

garoobasyo doorashadii baarlamaanka oo ah meeriskii ugu dambeeyey ee

dimoqaadiyaynta dalka, markaa ma dawlad la'aanta iyo qaska Muqdishu ka jira

ayaad ka door bidaysaa hanaanka dawladeed iyo horumarka Somaliland ka jira?

Mase qiraysaa in dadka Reer Somaliland wax lagu faano ay qabsadeen?

 

Cid aan hambalyeynayn in uu nidaam iyo kala-dambayni jirto ma jro ama ha

noqoto Somaliland, ama Xamar ama Garoowe ha noqoto, ama Baydhaba ha noqoto.

Waddanku in uu dego oo uu ku shaqeeyo hab dimoqraadiya waa ta la wada

doonayo. Arrintuse maaha taasi. Arrintu waxa weeyi waddanku ma mid baa mise

waan kala goynaynaa. Anigu waxan u arkaa danta ummada Soomaaliyeed ama

qaybaha Soomaaliyeed ee ku nool Somaliland in ay dantoodu ku xidhan tahay

ummada Soomaaliyeed in ay ka mid noqdaan. Taasna waxa caddaynaysa 15

sannadood oo laga soo wareegay immika wax barnaamij ah oo dib u dhis ah oo

hagaagsan oo laga qabtay Somaliland ma jirto.

 

Nidaam dawliya ayeynu ku noolahay, wasiir baan ka ahaa dawladii ugu

horreysay ee Somaliland, haddana 1994kii ayaan ka mid ahaa in aan aniga iyo

Madaxweynihii ugu horreeyey is taagno oo aan nidhaahno nidaamkan kala gu'u

dan uma aha ummada kun nool Somaliland, waxase dan u ah in la yeesho nidaam

waxna la wada yeesho waxna la kala yeesho lagu noolaado. Nidaamka aan

aaminsanahay in lagu shaqeeyo waa kaas oo si dimoqraadi ah loogu shaqeeyo.

 

Midna waxan jecelahay dadka in aad iyo aad loogu wacyi geliyo. Doorashaan

samaynay kala go' ma keenayso. Sida aanay doorashada Aw Barre iyo Goday ka

dhacday aanay u keenahayn in dhinacaasi ka go' dalka Itoobiya ayaan

doorashada ka dhacda Hargeysa iyo Boorama u keenahayn in waddanku kala go'.

 

Waa dhab oo waddanka oo dhan in ay doorasho ka dhacdo waanu doonaynaa, in

nidaam dimoqraadiya lagu shaqeeyo waan rabnaa. Laakiin waaqica siyaasiga ee

igu xeeran, mandaqada aan ku noolahay sida ay u noolaanayso, dadkayga

dantiisu waxa ay tahay, ayaa ka horreeya rabitaan siyaasadeed. Rabitaan aan

helitaan lahayn waa riyo, dadkana riyo laguma maamulo ee waaqic baa lagu

maamulaa. Sidaa awgeed baan ugu kala soocayaa hab dimoqraadiga qaadashadiisa

iyo aayo ka talinta iyo Somaliland sida ay noqonayso. Ma aha in had iyo goor

loo hadoodilo dadka, oo loo sameeyo wax aan jirin.

 

Shan iyo Toban sano ayaa la lahaa haddaynu sidaa yeelo berrito ayaa la ina

ictiraafayaa. Kolka ay doorashadu dhamaato ee ictiraaf la waayo dadka maxaa

loogu warrami doonaa berrito. Beenta dambe ee la samayn doono ee la odhanayo

waxa ku imanaya ictiraaf waa tee. Anagu 1994kii kolkaanu dunida si wanaagsan

ugu wareegnay, kolkaanu aragnay sida ay wax yihiin, waaqica Geeska Afrika

sida uu yahay kolkaan u fiirsanay, waxaan aragnay arrinta kala gu'u in ay

tahay arrin aan meel marahayn. Sidaa awgeed waxan nidhi waxa wanaagsan danta

in loo soo noqdo.

 

Waa run dano gaar ah ayey Somaliland leedahay, Somaliland anaga ayaa

samaynay, anagu reer Somaliland baanu nahay weligeedna waanu noqon doonaa,

laakiinse waxaanu leenahay danta Somaliland waxay ku jirtaa in ay Somali ka

mid noqoto.

 

7- Marka Ismaacill adiga oo Wasiirba ka ahaa Somaliland ma waxad leedahay

gooni-isku-taagga Somaliland ma aha rabitaanka dadka Somaliland ee dad gaar

ah ayaa wata?

 

Maya rabitaanka iyo helitaanka kala saar. Rabitaan waxa weeyi aragti

(ideological), waxa weeyi waxan rumaysanahay amaba doonayaa, laakiinse waxa

weeyi maxaa suuro gal ah ayey siyaasaddu ku salaysan tahay. Waxa lagu

yidhaahdaa afka qalaad ( art of the possible), waa hal abuurka wixii suuro

gal ah ayaa dadka lagu dhaqaa, laakiin wax aan suurogal ahayn, dheri aan

bislaanahayn looma saaro ummadda oo lama yidhaahdo wax baan kuu bislaynayaa

aan bislaanahayn. Waa ogsoon yihiin Madaxweynaha iyo Wasiirada Somaliland in

aan Somaliland maanta Yurub, Carab, Afrika cid leh waanu ictiraafaynaa in

aan la hayn.

 

Waxa keliya ee dadka lagu maaweeliyaa waa kolkay kuwaasi wax noqon waayaan

baa inaga la ina ictiraafi doonaa, dhibaato dad kale wax laguma noqdo. Waxa

la yidhaahdaa kolkay wax noqdaan baynu la fadhiisan doonaa, runtuna waxa

weeyi dawladdani kolka ay dhammaato ee ay bislaadaato, waxa jira dad ka

shaqeeyey in ay waxany sidaas noqdaan. Iyagaa ah dadkii shiraakada ku ahaa,

iyagaana dawladdii samaynaya. Markaa ma waxay doonayaan in aan ku noqono

arrintii 1960kii ina qabsatay oo kale. Haddii aynu doonayno in aan aayaheena

inagu samayno kolka aayaha la samaynayo waa in aad ka qayb qaadataa.

Laakiinse ka qayb qaadan maayo ee waxan doonayaa kolka ay waxaasi

dhammaadaan in aan ka qayb galo waxay la mid tahay tii carruurtu odhan

jirtay Aabbo ka yar iga celiyoo ka weyn igu soo daad.

 

8- Dad reer Somaliland ah baa waxay arkaan in horta la dhammeeyo koonfur

umushkeeda iyo mashaakilkeeda dabadeedna ay suurto gal noqon karto in labada

dhinac ay wada hadlaan, arrintaas ma u aragtaa in ay suurto gal tahay?

 

Waa suurto gal, laakiin ma markaan siyaasi ahaan u fikiro mise kolkaan sidii

qof Soomaali ah oo doonaya degaansho iyo wanaag u fikiro. Kolkaan

siyaasinimo u fikiro waxan u arkaa dadka sidaas ku talinayaa in ay dadka

hodayaan, laakiin kolkaan Soomaalinimo iyo u fikiro qof iska muslin ah oo

suuqa iska jooga in la yidhaahdo markay wax noqdaan baan la hadli doonaa

waxan u arkaa in ay macno leedahay.

 

Laakiinse kolkuu qofku wax noqdo oo waxa laga hadlayaa ay tahay dawlad

samaynteed, waa aayo dhisid, ciddii waxan samaysay baa iska leh, kolkaa aqal

qof samaystay baad leedahay waan soo galayaa. Isagaa samaystay adigu miyaad

ka qayb qaadatay in aad wax ka samayso. Anigu waxan leeyahay inta la

samaynayo ee wax la dejinayo, waa in aan ka qayb qaadanaa dejinta iyo waxa

la samaynayo iyo haykalka dawladnimo.

 

9- Dadka Reer Somaliland waxay qabaan in ay iyagu gooni isu taagga doorteen

oo aanay ka noqosho lahayn, haddaba adigu ma qabtaa in marka arrinta

koonfureed degto in dadka Somaliland afti la weydiiyo oo haddi rabitaankii

dadku sidan yahay si sharciga iyo nidaamka dawliga waafaqsan cod lagu

weydiin karo?

 

Horta sideedaba cid la khasbayaa ma jirto. Cid la khasbi karaana ma jirto.

Haddi cid immika la khasbayana dadka Somaliland jooga ayaa la khasbayaa.

Maxaa yeelay loomaba oggola in aragtida aad ka hadlayso suuqa la keeno oo

lagaba wada hadlo. Hargeyso haddaan tago oo aan arrintan ka hadlo waxa la

odhanayaa waa la isku dilayaa oo waa lagu kala yaacayaa. Waxa aad leedahay

waan doonayaa adigii baan oggolayn. Somaliland ma laga helayaa kolka hore

arrintaa aad sheegayso. Somaliland diyaar ma u tahay in jawi dimoqraadiya oo

xor ah oo qofkii midnimo doonayaana midnimadii sheegto, qofkii kala-go'

doonayaana kala-go'a sheegto diyaar ma u tahay. Kolka ay diyaar u noqoto

anigu waxan hubaa ummadda oo dhami in ay diyaar u noqon doonto. Haddaba waxa

weeyi jawigaa dimoqraadiga ah horta ha laga helo Somaliland.

 

10- Waxan ognahay Cabdillaahi Yuusuf in uu ahaa hoggaamiyaha Puntland,

Puntland oo Cabdillaahi hoggaaminayo iyo Somalilandna ay kala dhex taalay

dhibaato weyn oo dad iyo dal ku saabsan. Haddaba ma laga yaabaa doorashada

Cabdillaahi Yuusuf loo doortay Madaxweyne Soomaaliyeed in ay sii

carqaladaysay wada hadalo iyo waanwaan lala geli kari lahaa Somaliland?

 

Maya. Maxaa yeelay anigu waxan ka mid ahaa dadkii Cabdillaahi Yuusuf inu

yimaado ka qayb qaatay. Uma arko arrintaa sidaas. Cabdillaahi Yuusuf anigu

ilaa 1980kii waan aqaanay, haddana waan aqaanaa, waxan hubaa wixii dadku ku

heshiiyo ay ummadda Soomaaliyeed tidhaahdo aan ku dhaqno in ay tahay isaga

iyo qayrkiiba in ay u hoggaansamaan. Kolkaa arrintu ma aha arrin qof shakhsi

ah ku saabsan, waa maamul dhan iyo hab siyaasadeed oo ku salaysan

kala-dambayn iyo dimoqraadiyad in la dhiso. Taasina ma aha mid uu

go'aankeeda qof keliya gacanta ugu jiro. Kolkaa anagu waxan qabnaa in aanu

qof keli ahi aayaha ummadda wuxuu doono ka yeeli karin. Kolkaa anigu

shakhsiyan uma arko in arrintaasi arrin dhibaato keenaysa tahay.

 

11- Ismaaciil waxa weeyi adiga oo ah nin muuqda oo u dhashay Somaliland,

maxaad talo odhan lahayd dadka reer Somaliland ee maanta doorashada u diyaar

garoobaya?

 

Taladayda ugu weyni waxa weeyi si deggan oo waafaqsan nidaamka guddiga

doorashooyinku ay dejisay iyo kala-dambaynta waddanka iyo degenaanshiihiisa

in arrintaasi ay u dhaco. Waxanan rajaynaa kolka baarlamaankaasu yimaado ee

uu yahay baarlamaan dadku uu soo doortay xaqaa'iqa immika la iska qarinayo

in ay is hordhigaan oo runtii aayo-ka-talin hagaagsan oo furfuran oo ku

salaysan jawi dimoqraadi ah, aan cidna ra'yigiisa lagu cabdudhin ay noqoto

mid ay ka suuroobaan.

 

12- Ugu dambayn wax wada hadal ah ma yeelateen madaxda Somaliland ama wax

xidhiidh ah oo idiin socdaa ma jiraa?

 

Wax rasmi ah oo wada hadal ah oo jira weli lama gaadhin, laakiin wax aan

rasmi ahayn waa jira oo dadku waa wada hadlaan, dadka ka mid ah xukuumadda

Somaliland in aan isugu nimaadno fagaarayaal kala duduwan oo aan

sheekaysano, waxa jira isu sheegno way dhacdaa. Runtii waxay u badataa uun

in aan anaguna wadno hawsha aan ku jirno oo aan dedejino wax deggan in aanu

keeno, Somalilandna in wax fadqalalo ah dhexdeeda laga ilaaliyo.

 

Sidaa awgeed baanu anagu dhinacayaga ballan qaad buuxa aanu ka samaynaynaa

wax haba yaraatee fadqalalo geliya Somaliland in aanaan ku dhaqaaqin. Haddii

aanu wax ka yara shikisanahay waxanu ka baqanaa gudaha sida wax u socdaan in

tareenku sakadda ka yara boodo, oo aanu nidhaahnaa tolow hadday taasi idinku

dhacdo maxaa yeeli doontaan. Waayo waa in aanu ka firkirnaa haddii

Somaliland dhibaato ka dhacdo waa mid na soo gaadhaysa oo dunidu waxay na

odhanaysaa oo maxaad wax uga qaban weydeen. Sidaa awgeed anagu ma jeclin in

ama dhinacayaga dhibaato ka timaado ama waddanka gudihiisa ka timaado.

 

 

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Shan iyo Toban sano ayaa la lahaa haddaynu sidaa yeelo berrito ayaa la ina ictiraafayaa. Kolka ay doorashadu dhamaato ee ictiraaf la waayo dadka maxaa loogu warrami doonaa berrito. Beenta dambe ee la samayn doono ee la odhanayo

waxa ku imanaya ictiraaf waa tee. Anagu 1994kii kolkaanu dunida si wanaagsan ugu wareegnay, kolkaanu aragnay sida ay wax yihiin, waaqica Geeska Afrika sida uu yahay kolkaan u fiirsanay, waxaan aragnay arrinta kala gu'u in ay tahay arrin aan meel marahayn. Sidaa awgeed waxan nidhi waxa wanaagsan danta in loo soo noqdo.

 

waxaanu leenahay danta Somaliland waxay kujirtaa in ay Somali ka mid noqoto

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Maya rabitaanka iyo helitaanka kala saar. Rabitaan waxa weeyi aragti

(ideological), waxa weeyi waxan rumaysanahay amaba doonayaa, laakiinse waxa

weeyi maxaa suuro gal ah ayey siyaasaddu ku salaysan tahay. Waxa lagu

yidhaahdaa afka qalaad ( art of the possible), waa hal abuurka wixii suuro

gal ah ayaa dadka lagu dhaqaa, laakiin wax aan suurogal ahayn, dheri aan

bislaanahayn looma saaro ummadda oo lama yidhaahdo wax baan kuu bislaynayaa

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Waxa keliya ee dadka lagu maaweeliyaa waa kolkay kuwaasi wax noqon waayaan

baa inaga la ina ictiraafi doonaa, dhibaato dad kale wax laguma noqdo. Waxa

la yidhaahdaa kolkay wax noqdaan baynu la fadhiisan doonaa, runtuna waxa

weeyi dawladdani kolka ay dhammaato ee ay bislaadaato, waxa jira dad ka

shaqeeyey in ay waxany sidaas noqdaan. Iyagaa ah dadkii shiraakada ku ahaa,

iyagaana dawladdii samaynaya. Markaa ma waxay doonayaan in aan ku noqono

arrintii 1960kii ina qabsatay oo kale. Haddii aynu doonayno in aan aayaheena

inagu samayno kolka aayaha la samaynayo waa in aad ka qayb qaadataa.

Laakiinse ka qayb qaadan maayo ee waxan doonayaa kolka ay waxaasi

dhammaadaan in aan ka qayb galo waxay la mid tahay tii carruurtu odhan

jirtay Aabbo ka yar iga celiyoo ka weyn igu soo daad.

 

Haddi cid immika la khasbayana dadka Somaliland jooga ayaa la khasbayaa.

Maxaa yeelay loomaba oggola in aragtida aad ka hadlayso suuqa la keeno oo

lagaba wada hadlo. Hargeyso haddaan tago oo aan arrintan ka hadlo waxa la

odhanayaa waa la isku dilayaa oo waa lagu kala yaacayaa. Waxa aad leedahay

waan doonayaa adigii baan oggolayn. Somaliland ma laga helayaa kolka hore

arrintaa aad sheegayso. Somaliland diyaar ma u tahay in jawi dimoqraadiya oo

xor ah oo qofkii midnimo doonayaana midnimadii sheegto, qofkii kala-go'

doonayaana kala-go'a sheegto diyaar ma u tahay. Kolka ay diyaar u noqoto

anigu waxan hubaa ummadda oo dhami in ay diyaar u noqon doonto. Haddaba waxa

weeyi jawigaa dimoqraadiga ah horta ha laga helo Somaliland.

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Maya. Maxaa yeelay anigu waxan ka mid ahaa dadkii Cabdillaahi Yuusuf inu

yimaado ka qayb qaatay. Uma arko arrintaa sidaas. Cabdillaahi Yuusuf anigu

ilaa 1980kii waan aqaanay, haddana waan aqaanaa, waxan hubaa wixii dadku ku

heshiiyo ay ummadda Soomaaliyeed tidhaahdo aan ku dhaqno in ay tahay isaga

iyo qayrkiiba in ay u hoggaansamaan. Kolkaa arrintu ma aha arrin qof shakhsi

ah ku saabsan, waa maamul dhan iyo hab siyaasadeed oo ku salaysan

kala-dambayn iyo dimoqraadiyad in la dhiso. Taasina ma aha mid uu

go'aankeeda qof keliya gacanta ugu jiro. Kolkaa anagu waxan qabnaa in aanu

qof keli ahi aayaha ummadda wuxuu doono ka yeeli karin. Kolkaa anigu

shakhsiyan uma arko in arrintaasi arrin dhibaato keenaysa tahay.

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