Samafal Posted February 8 ^Lol waa saad jeclaanlahayd. Puntland has the upperhand. The PDF have killed 200 to 300 of them and wounded many more. The estimated number of these Daacish are about 700 to 1000 men. As we speak most of them are holed up in small strip of mountaineos caves. Their food and water are scarce and in the next few days will run out. They will either be forced to surrender or massacred. Watch this space. Maakhir, what are you exactly blaming Dani for? Ma labo wiil oo reerkiina ah baa ku dhintay marka strategy is wrong?? Meesha badar lama cunayo waa la dhimanayaa calaalka jooji. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 8 11 hours ago, maakhiri1 said: I think a lot of questions about the preparation for this, showing off, a lot of underestimate, 9 hours ago, galbeedi said: Puntland forces should not rush to these caves. They should take their time, isolate Dacish and bomb them from above. IT is war and successful wars are fought by men sacrifising their lives and boots on the front, but since these men are suicidal , you need a military strategy to minimize casualty. 6 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: They are not gonne be defeated thst easily. They have good logistics they operate well the have the mountains on their side . And they have resources Valid observations, criticism, and warnings. In Corporate America, we hold a "hot wash" after an incident for evaluation and after-action discussions. In that, I would prefer to wait till the battle has been concluded when we could discuss strategic mistakes, lessons learnt etc. It is down to a 20 km sq area where Dacish remnants are now holed up. Their main ration and medical reserves where they left behind medical supplies and a dozen or so dead bodies had been located. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Samafal said: ^Lol waa saad jeclaanlahayd. Puntland has the upperhand. The PDF have killed 200 to 300 of them and wounded many more. The estimated number of these Daacish are about 700 to 1000 men. As we speak most of them are holed up in small strip of mountaineos caves. Their food and water are scarce and in the next few days will run out. They will either be forced to surrender or massacred. Watch this space. Maakhir, what are you exactly blaming Dani for? Ma labo wiil oo reerkiina ah baa ku dhintay marka strategy is wrong?? Meesha badar lama cunayo waa la dhimanayaa calaalka jooji. Labo reer maakhir ah? It seems you are one of those , attend every Pl party, not aware what is going on,, believe everything from Deni, thinking they own PL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 8 Somebody place embers under Deni fatty hooves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 8 Reer MN rising to their communal obligation https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1DgcYungMD/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 8 Abwaan Dhagaafe and reer Jigjiga doing their part on the front. Dhaanto by Idil Ayrush & Filsan https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18yHgBzK4e/ Dhaanto by Puntland Band https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FFHLu6CD8/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 8 Al Arabiya says ABC confirmed Daacish's leader killed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 8 These natural caves and tunnels are amazing, yet dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 8 Videos of the dead https://x.com/SomalisVoices/status/1888289594199998514?t=AJxHIhNgomXUFwKUfGsO2Q&s=19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted February 9 15 hours ago, maakhiri1 said: Labo reer maakhir ah? It seems you are one of those , attend every Pl party, not aware what is going on,, believe everything from Deni, thinking they own PL. Far from it, I am not one of those who attend such parties. But if you are criticizing Dani, you can criticize him for anything but not how he managed this war. The preparation for this offensive started a year ago making sure all the soldiers were well trained and paid. He put together all the logistics that they could need and available. Also, he managed well how he rallied different clans and showed leadership by temporarily moving the government seat to Bosaso. At the moment he has the highest popularity rating he ever had. From corner to corner people are showing unity and solidierity for the ciidanka. Marka waxaan ku waydiiyay meeshaad wax ka aragtay bas? I know Daacish should have been finished in 2016 when they captured Qandala under Abdiwali Gas's weak leadership. But Puntland had other challenges such as the Tukaraq war, Galmudug war and it is around that time Daacish establish foothold in Bari region. Puntland was fighting many fronts: Somaliland, Galmudug, Alshabab in Galgala and then Daacish with so little resources. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illyria Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Samafal said: Far from it, I am not one of those who attend such parties. But if you are criticizing Dani, you can criticize him for anything but not how he managed this war. The preparation for this offensive started a year ago making sure all the soldiers were well trained and paid. He put together all the logistics that they could need and available. Also, he managed well how he rallied different clans and showed leadership by temporarily moving the government seat to Bosaso. He is raising valid questions, and the buck always stops with the Leader in charge even when Commanders leading the battle commit strategic missteps, misread the adversary, or are outmanoeuvred in tactics. It happens in war. On Feb 4th, the toughest day of the conflict thus far, a few strategic missteps had been taken (not so much, Daacish fighters had better positions, adopted tactics unfamiliar to PL Commanders, and hardly engage in direct face-to-face battle unless forced), which resulted in high number of casualties, yet in the end, PL Commanders adapted, won the battle and positions. DM me if you want the gory details. By the way, Maakiri is the "mulkiilaha" PL, and just 'cos we criticise Deni, it does mean we are against PL. We are it! No denying of Deni's astute leadership, brinkmanship, and politicking, and I would rather have him in charge than Gaas or Faroole, but like all men, the man has flaws and limitations. Now is not the time to be focusing on him! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted February 9 26 minutes ago, Illyria said: He is raising valid questions, and the buck always stops with the Leader in charge even when Commanders leading the battle commit strategic missteps, misread the adversary, or are outmanoeuvred in tactics. It happens in war. On Feb 4th, the toughest day of the conflict thus far, a few strategic missteps had been taken (not so much, Daacish fighters had better positions, adopted tactics unfamiliar to PL Commanders, and hardly engage in direct face-to-face battle unless forced), which resulted in high number of casualties, yet in the end, PL Commanders won the battle and positions. DM me if you want the gory details. By the way, Maakiri is the "mulkiilaha" PL, and just 'cos we criticise Deni, it does mean we are against PL. We are it! No denying of Deni's astute leadership, brinkmanship, and politicking, and I would rather have him in charge than Gaas or Faroole, but like all men, the man has flaws and limitations. Now is not the time to be focusing on him! Sxb horta I have not seen any questions he has raised. All I have seen is empty criticsm and I have all the right to ask him what he was actually accusing him of. I am not here to defend Deni nor do I believe giving leaders a blank check albeit Somali ones. But that does not mean anyone whether a supporter or opposition cannot be scrutinized and their statements and stances questioned. In regards to the missteps or mishaps you mentioned I am not disputing or confirming though I am in touch with people on the ground. However, neither me nor you are military strategist or specialist in the mountaineous rough terrain warfare, but my little brain tells me such terrain will always cause heavy casaulties if you really wanted to flush them out. So if you and Makhir are coming all guns blazing, bringing forth Dani's blunders everytime there are some Puntland casualties on the battlefield, brace yourselves because if we really want to be victorious we will have to commit solidiers out in the open and fight. Otherwise, years down the line we will be talking about why something has not been done. Also, it is not possible you kill more than 200 soldiers, capture 250 k square km and you hardly suffer any casulties. Americans with all their military gear could not face Taliban in Torah Borah mountains and mainly relied on bombing from sky and footsoldiers of Northern Alliance. Why? Because they knew there will be heavy casualties. By the way I am not questioning Makhir's Puntland credentials though I am always perplexed the halfhearted commitment and loyalty demonstrated by some from Sanaag community who entertain themselves ever elusive glorious regional state called "Makhir". If you are part of something you commit to it and throw all your weight behind that cause. Rather all I ever see is moaning from sidelines and acting if you are just honored guests. Didn't Ilka Jiir nearly win Puntland presidency and lost by small margin? Why then cause confusion and seek division with non existent entity that never materialise? Sanaag traditional leaders signed the Puntland creation as all the other tradional elders from Mudug, Bar, Nugal and SSC and I think it is about time they take their position as fully fledged part of the union and leadership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
