Future of Somalia and her people.?

[Khalaf]

When you look at the situation of our homeland and peoples, one we are scattered throughout the world, in different countries, different environments, different languages, and different cultural influences! Two in the homeland front, Somalia is separated along clan lines, clan cities, clan states, clan regions, clan divisions, mistrust some may say hate. This makes it easy for the enemies of Somalia, though somalis are each others worst enemies. Somalia is what? 10 million peoples? Before there were clan wars and conflicts, and now a proxy war between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Trust me those who think Ethiopia is trying to build a government in Somalia, not gonna happen they are there for their interests, nor are those who think Eritrea will somehow help Somalia become "liberated", they are only trying to frustrate the plans of Ethiopia. A classic case of proxy war in which our people will suffer the most, there are no leaders who care about somalia and certainly no love between Somalis.

 

What does the future hold you think therefore? I mentioned how we are scattered throughout the world precisely because I can not think of any peoples in our situation, that have kept their culture, language other then the jews. That is if culture/language/history is important, some believe it is not at all important, but if so then somali’s are highly likely candidates to lose in this battle, and the battle of the homefront well its ongoing war and conflict. It seems like there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

 

Looking forward to thought provoking comments. I know we are capable and can step up to this challenge.

[Che -Guevara]

A nation wada experts ah iyo mucaarnimo without cause not mention poverty stricken masses whose loyalty is to the clan led by self-enriching corrupt and extremely unpatriotic leaders who are easily manipulated and outsmarted by foreigners that are completely indifferent or outright hostile to the Somali people has little chance of redeeming its self as it is self evident on these SOL pages.

 

It will take men with principles and masses that will empathize with their own misfortunes to break the cycle of this fratricidal orgy. For any change to occur in Somalia, the Somali character must go through transformation- from that of ignorant souls whose boasts about killing their brothers,pillaging towns and cities, garnering pride from superficial tribal attributes, and unapologetically discriminating against their very brethren to that of people of principles and Iman willing to fight against injustices against them and their brethren.

 

The root cause of the Somali problem is the abject poverty and the utter disregard or sometimes complete subjugation of "minority" Somalis. Redemption will come only if we acknowledge the injustices faced by some Somalis, and also realize that it is poverty that's hindering the amalgamation of the Somali people into one cohesive cultural, political, and economical force. It is only through this individual or collective self-realization that we will be to deliver ourselves from the hole we have dig ourselves for.

[Khalaf]

Very well put bro.

 

It will take men with principles and masses that will empathize with their own misfortunes to break the cycle of this fratricidal orgy.

Where are those men you think Che? How come the masses are idle? And what do you think all though Allah knows best, the future holds for Somalia and her people?

 

I see topics like these are mostly ignored and dont get much contribution from nomads, because it challenges us to think and to think deep, and that is hard to do, while the other usual topics that involve bickering, finger pointing, SNM this, SSDF that, your uncle did this, empty boastings, you know the usual, dont require much thought. I wish more nomads would contribute to this important topic. Bring it people. Thanks Che for setting the bar.

[General Duke]

Somalia's history is being writen as we speak. One has to wait on how we deal best with this fact, this problem. There will be no panacea but a number of alternative routes available.

[Khalaf]

Duke will it be too much to ask of you, if you can outline what you believe the future holds for somalia and her people? (And of course Allah knows best)

 

Start with an outline of the government you would support. Will it be Federalism based on clan shared seats/power? Duke and others, this thread will be permanent and God Willing in the future we can come back to it maybe and see how our political analysis materalized.

[Khalaf]

Future of Somalia and her people.?

Heh! (um starting digging that pharase yaa NG, and hint hint for u to drop a scholary piece awoowe that is if u still got it in you). I see No volunteers want to tackle this topic? No "scholary" analysis. I see I see.

 

If you choose to comment (yeah um doing litle homework n interested), no one liners are wanted or needed, but a concrete, intelligent piece about the topic at hand: Future of Somalia and Her people?

[RedSea]

This is boring topic I THINK.

[Khalaf]

Make it hot marka. But i dont see how Red. Because it doesnt involve bickering, bashing, blaming, empty boasting, or past events? That doesnt require much thought. I think its important topic that requires a lot of thought on what we think Somalia's future holds, for the people, governance, future of the North, relations between SL/PL, this new state makhir, ethiopia's influence in the Horn, and that status of the Union ect ect. You have no comments on these matters? was looking for the "boring" intellectual analysis pieces of the Baashis, NGs, Xiins, Jims Thepoints, Paragons, Horns, Caamirs, ect ect.

[Malika]

Hear,Hear Che!

 

There can only be a future,when we truly examine what went wrong from the word go, I mean after independece and the union of Somalia.By understanding the past,its history,then only can we move forward.Moving forward would need us to examine how and what sort of governing body would work in Somalia,there is no need to deny that we are and had always been a society that based its political and social affairs on clan system.Some will say,arent we supposed to catch up with the rest of the world and creat a democratic nation.Oh yeah that would be ideal,but not realistic solution,its tribal affiliation that is holding us back from being a part of the wider world.So back to under the tree sort of governing and let the old men of yester year determine our future,by heck the intellectuals,those whom who would have lead ppl from the darkness into the light with knowledge seem to be unable to do so,busy argueing for "their" war lords.

 

OR

 

Its about time you "MEN" stand aside,and let us women lead you...upto now you lot have been disappointing to say the least!

 

OR

 

If there is a cure for hypocritism,selfishness,carelessness,arrongancy,*********,ignorance etc etc...only then we shall move forward.. [thats a joke now,before you lot lynch me]

 

Khalaf,will come back to this in a serious note next time. Insha'allah!

[RedSea]

khalaf abti..

 

waxan kawadaa wixii hadaynaan hada ku dhaqaaqayn, muxuu hadal tarayaa?

 

 

action speaks louder than words.

[Khalaf]

If there is a cure for hypocritism,selfishness,carelessness,arrongancy,*********,ignorance etc etc...only then we shall move forward.. [thats a joke now,before you lot lynch me]

I believe those are accurate characteristics of "the somali". People who don't love each other, how you expect them to build anything productive? I honestly think it will take decades, if not more to have a country again....

 

Originally posted by Dahia al Kahina:

Khalaf,will come back to this in a serious note next time.

[/QB]

Inshallah my sister, come wit it! your political analysis I think i speak for a lot people when i say: It seems like there is no light at the end of the tunnel, and that is why we are stumped for answers.

[Khalaf]

Red akhi be cool wit the hadal muxu taraaya, mr. slay the dirty xaabshis, ahhhhhhhhh, scream scream! My brother I have yet to see from any of your posts on the current state of the union any serious analysis other then well your usual screaming, blaming, and what not. Violence begets violence dont you think? We can't solve our problems with those sort of views. Sxbow, since this is a discussion forum, whose members are, i suspose intellectual and across the world and whom hold different perspectives we can discuss the issues facing our nation and what we believe the future holds, including the relationship in the North, and how to bring about that change. It takes thought, and ive read thought provoking pieces from several nomads in my stay on SOL. I enjoyed that, and we lost that touch somehow, into the usual bickering, blaming, shouting, cursing ect ect. What you say Red? Can you step up to the plate, or are u stumped like me on the topic?

[General Duke]

Duke will it be too much to ask of you, if you can outline what you believe the future holds for somalia and her people? (And of course Allah knows best)

I believe personally that Somalia as a nation state is on the road to recovery. We are past the days of the war, but we have not recovered fully, the war wounds have yet to be healed. The idea of war is still fresh.

 

In this response I will not outline what the ideal situation or a utopia. What I will try to convey rather is the prospects ahead of us considering the imitations of our system.

 

1. The best deal is to continue with the present system and to give federalism the chance since this will appease Somaliland, Puntland as well as Bay and Bakool or what will be the Southwestern regions. There is already talk of a regional federal entity in the works comprising Banadir, Upper and Lower Shabbele and maybe Hiiraan. Yes these regions will be made of clans but once organized these clans will no doubt bring order and development as their kinsmen have achieved in Somaliland and Puntland. Also note that as a citizen of the federal state one can reside in any of these states as one can reside in any state of the US. Thus in terms of security, meeting local proprieties and even creating checks and balances the centralized region must be done away with and devolution real ones must be given to the regions.

2. Somalia must play a key role and maintain diplomatic relations and become members of as many world clubs as possible. The Islamic world, AU, Arab League, IGAD, Indian Ocean, Horn and so on. With many allies we will reduce conflicts with any party and hedge risk.

3. Somalia I would say will become a more religious society and hence the Shariah law should be the one that runs the nation. This will come when there is security and order and the people are taught their rights within the law.

 

What I would like to see, as Duke is. Creation of national parks, in the south. In order to better protect the environment.

A national audit office to oversee corruption in public as well as private sector. Transparent accounts for every official at every level. I want to know how much these people earn and it should not be millions.

Creation of a national voluntary sector which helps with urban clean up.

I would like to see big ideas in terms of providing clean water, sewage and education for every child.

 

That’s my two cents for today ya Khalaf.