General Duke Posted October 18, 2010 MM: They dont control much, but thats not the point, the PM, came through this same formula and has not changed it through legislation, thus how does he actually carry it out? Or was he just sounding nice to the women he was meeting? Interesting stuff, and we shall see how things turn out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A_Khadar Posted October 18, 2010 Originally posted by Sabriye & co.: I am beggining to feel optimistic about Mr Farmaajo. Never expect and wait optimistic attitude towwards somalia from successionists.. Waxay ugu badisaa somalia misery... They pray and cross their fingers total failure for somalia so one day they may have the chance to be reconginzed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sophist Posted October 18, 2010 Noble but illegal statement- against the current most supreme law of the TFG; the charter! The whole system is based on 4.5. S Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabriye amp co. Posted October 18, 2010 Originally posted by A_Khadar: quote:Originally posted by Sabriye & co.: I am beggining to feel optimistic about Mr Farmaajo. Never expect and wait optimistic attitude towwards somalia from successionists.. Waxay ugu badisaa somalia misery... They pray and cross their fingers total failure for somalia so one day they may have the chance to be reconginzed. Is this the continuation of a different discussion all together? la xowla ..... War heedhahaya hadii aanu isku fahmi weyno halkaani maxaa ka sugi kuwa dalkii jira?? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 18, 2010 there is nothing legal about 4.5 in the cabinet parlaiment reps are selected based on this formula but the cabinet should have nothing to do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted October 18, 2010 So call 4.5 is not only based on haraam intentions but is unjust and uncivil thus, its success is almost impossible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted October 18, 2010 There are certain things you don't tamper with. But will see what this new PM has in stored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qandalawi Posted October 18, 2010 The whole TFG since from its inception was on the TFG. It's a good idea to stop this formula and change the system but its not a job only a PM can undertake. The greater majority of the Somalis are against the 4.5 power share, even President Faroole had aired his dislike but how practical it is to avoid at this critical moment specially when the Somalis have learnt to use for the past decade as the measuring scale of a fair and balanced government. Any list of names announced for a cabinet post will also include the clan names to see if it meats the 4.5, Dayniile style Qola kastaa waa iska eegaysaa meesha, laf-laf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 18, 2010 ^^^Thats the problem, the new PM sems to be making the nice statement. Now lets say he names a cabinet of the 10 most competent Ministers that he believes can do the job, and 6 out of the seven happen to be from his clan. What would our Dalabay, Niinac and Co say? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 18, 2010 ^^ That is a gouge, some one needs to tackle that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 18, 2010 There is no way that one can go around the 4.5 formula without changing the whole thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Som@li Posted October 18, 2010 Actually this will work, with few Ministers,(not more than 10) more productive, the next step is to reduce the number of MPs. A bold move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted October 18, 2010 I am not sure what Mr. Farmaajo was referring to. I am of the opinion the case against the 4.5 is not to dispose of power distribution based on clan (what else is he going to do? name all ministers from one clan?), but rather the bellyache is directed at the humiliating 0.5 allocated for "others". Most Somalis view the 0.5 tag itself as the true manifestation of all that is defective of the current TFG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted October 19, 2010 MPs became parliamentarians under this useless 4.5 formula, however, the selection of cabinet ministers are quite different and entirely up to the PM and how he wants to shape it. And then it is up to the parliamentarians to pass it or ditch it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted October 19, 2010 Let's wait to see Mr Farmaajo's cabinet and return to this topic then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites