US says, The leadership of the TFG needs to change...Jendayi Fraser

[QabiilDiid]

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro:

adigu northwest wax la yidhaa baad cuqdad ka qabtaa sow maaha ??

You are just the laughing stock of the world if you always personalize the discussion. Debate or suht up. I am sure the gang’s losing their patience with you.

 

The gang that rules Hargeisa’s municipal council headed by the Somali National Security agent, Mr. Riyaale, has invested their last diminishing dollars in wrong internet talent. The gang lately came to the conclusion that the really reason the administration has been failing to gain an ear for their endeavor for international sovereignty for last 16 years is because nobody has succored them and defended their position in the cyber war in a logical and sincere debate. They could not pass the girls manned at the front reception desks of the foreigner ministers for the countries they had been visiting since the demon entered their skull. Please click this piece from Hargeisa posted on SoomaaliWeyn cite on May 8, 2007 to see how desperate the gang is to use the internet for their fantasy.

 

Wouldn’t you agree with me that Riyaale has chosen wrong talent when you see growing number of secessionists flying the darned flag and visiting Somali websites but sadly engaged in ad hominem discussions?

[General Duke]

Robleh, the lady means change as in after the 2009 transition period. If you listen closely she states it that this transition period will continue until every Somali can elect their new leadership. Thus the TFG will have to change.

 

The June confernece is not about electing a new governemnt, its reconciling the clans and c*****ng a course for the new federal institutions, and the upcoming national elections in 2009

 

Seconomist is right, the aim of this governemnt is to put the foundations for the new federal Somali republic.

[General Duke]

Here is the organiser of the national reconciliation conference regarding the topic of this thread. There will be no new governemnt untill 2009.

 

 

Muqdisho: "Shirka dib u heshiisiinta ma ahan mid lagu casilayo dowladda, dadka aaminsan in dowlad cusub lagu dhisayo niyadooda haka saaraan" Cali Mahdi

14. Maj 2007

 

 

 

Muqdisho(AllPuntland)- Siyaasiga Cali Mahdi Maxamed oo ah shir guddoonka shirka dib u heshiisiinta Qaran ayaa ka dhawaajiyay in shirka uu qabsoomayo 14-ka bisha Juun, isagoo sheegay in ay ka soo qeybgeli doonaan dhamaan qabaa'ilada Soomaaliyeed.

 

Cali Mahdi Maxamed ayaa sheegay in shirka qaab beeleed looga soo qeybgeli doono, wuxuuna meesha ka saaray in awooda shirka aysan laheyn dowladda KMG ah ee Soomaaliya balse wada tashi ay ku leeyihiin, wuxuuna Cali Mahdi uu tilmaamay in awooda shirka ay u madax bannaan yihiin.

 

Md. Cali Mahdi ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in shirka dib u heshiisiinta loo qabanayo beelaha Soomaaliyeed isla markaana uusan aheyn mid lagu casilayo ama lagu dooranayo dowlad kale, hase ahaatee wuxuu sheegay in beelaha Soomaaliyeed la isugu keenayo maadaama shirkii dib u heshiisiinta ee dowladda lagu soo dhisay ay ka qeybgaleen hoggaamiyeyaasha iminka dowladda ku jira.

 

"Shirka dib u heshiisiinta ma ahan mid lagu casilayo dowladda, dadka aaminsan in dowlad cusub lagu dhisayo niyadooda haka saaraan"

ayuu yiri Md. Mahdi oo intaa raaciyay in cid kasta oo Soomaaliyeed uu shirka u furan yahay.

 

Cali Muxiyaddiin Cali

AllPuntland, Muqdisho

 

 

[Garyaqaan2]

Originally posted by The Duke:

Robleh, the lady means change as in after the 2009 transition period. If you listen closely she states it that this transition period will continue until every Somali can elect their new leadership. Thus the TFG will have to change.

 

The June confernece is not about electing a new governemnt, its reconciling the clans and c*****ng a course for the new federal institutions, and the upcoming national elections in

2009

 

Seconomist is right, the aim of this governemnt is to put the foundations for the new federal Somali republic.

Mr. Duke I see alot ppl who have problem with understanding .

 

 

understanding the cognitive condition of someone who understands

 

understanding the statement (oral or written) of an exchange of promises

 

 

The adjective understanding has one meaning:

 

 

characterized by understanding based on comprehension and discernment and empathy

 

 

I would suggested ppl to go back and listen carefull to the interview

[General Duke]

She even states we work well with President Yusuf, that all those invited must attend the meeting to be held in Mogadishu.

 

She is also clear on Sharif Ahmed who she says is no longer considered as a moderate and she is scathing on Sharif Xasan and the Asmara group, who the US suspects are in cahoots with extremist grousp hell bent on creating trouble for the Somali people.

 

All in all this was a very posative interview for the TFG, of course it needs to change so does any adminstration.

 

We [TFG] supporters get from this, is a commitment for the US adminstation to flagship projects of the TFG. 1. The national reconciliation conference as well as 2. the upcoming national elections for 2009 insha Allah.

 

The secessionists get nothing, not a mention of Somaliland.

 

The antigovernment groups led by Sharif Ahmed & Sharif Xasan get nothing more than to be put on the terror list and furthered isolated in their hole in Asmara

[rudy-Diiriye]

that welfare queen from compton is clueless!! what, now she thinks worlords are ready for peace. dont she know that u cant teach an old dawg new tricks.

 

hopefully she be back in the welfare after 8 months where she belongs.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Yeey is almost 90 years old for heavens sake. He has achieved his dreams and he is very very sick. How could anybody expect this frail senior to hold on for another 7 years?

 

From what I have been hearing for a while, the man plans to retire after his term ends. No turning back for him.

 

On another thread we’ve discussed the person who is most likely to replace Yeey. My bet is still on the Interior Minister, Gacmodheere.

[Jacaylbaro]

Originally posted by Nayruus:

quote:Originally posted by Jacaylbaro:

adigu northwest wax la yidhaa baad cuqdad ka qabtaa sow maaha ??

You are just the laughing stock of the world if you always personalize the discussion. Debate or suht up. I am sure the gang’s losing their patience with you.

 

The gang that rules Hargeisa’s municipal council headed by the Somali National Security agent, Mr. Riyaale, has invested their last diminishing dollars in wrong internet talent. The gang lately came to the conclusion that the really reason the administration has been failing to gain an ear for their endeavor for international sovereignty for last 16 years is because nobody has succored them and defended their position in the cyber war

in a logical and sincere debate

. They could not pass the girls manned at the front reception desks of the foreigner ministers for the countries they had been visiting since the demon entered their skull.

Please click this piece from Hargeisa posted on SoomaaliWeyn cite on May 8, 2007 to see how desperate the gang is to use the internet for their fantasy.

 

Wouldn’t you agree with me that Riyaale has chosen wrong talent when you see growing number of secessionists flying the darned flag and visiting Somali websites but sadly engaged in ad hominem discussions?

Don't hijack the thread sxb ,,,,,,,,, start your own if you want ,,,,,,,,, Now tell grap your coffee and tell me when Somaliland and Somalia are starting talks ,,,,,,,,,,

[Fabregas]

Quote:The reality is if you do not use the power services Ethio is offering with the blessing of the US, someone else will and you will be marchinalised for a long time. And that is what you do not want to happen again.

 

 

Cajiib walahi!

[roobleh]

Nayruus,

Lets not abuse our privileges of posting opinions on SOL. JB was only commenting of your diversion from the subject matter. I agree with him that not only you're trying to distract my thread but you're not contributing to it. So relax, we are just one SOL family in here.

 

Duke,

Not only she said that "The TFG leadership needs to change" but she mentioned that the current government lead by Abdilahi Yussuf wont be able to stand. And of course, she was talking about this upcoming conference. So lets hope the next government from this conference to be one without any of the warlords that committed atrocities against its citizens.

 

You and I know that this conference is to change the TFG leadership, not to legitimize it. What is the point of doing this conference if the TFG leadership is to stay? There is no need that clans have to reconcile with each other. This is not what the Somali people need. They need a civilian government lead by Somali leaders who have clean records. What is wrong in Somalia is the lack of genuine leadership, not the people. Once the conference starts, it will be the people who are going to decide their new government. Neither Ali Mahdi nor Abdulahi Yussuf will be able to dictate the outcome of the conference.

[roobleh]

Geeljire,

 

Who are the anti-TFG?

 

Please read my comments with an open-mind. In case you want to know, the anti-TFG are the majority of the Somali people who do not want those warlords.

[Emperor]

^Are you sure they are not the Somali civil war beneficiaries...

[Fabregas]

Roobleh, the T.F.G leadership isn't being replaced in June nor is it going anywhere.Ethiopia, Kenya and America have already chosen their best people to run somalia, they are, the Somali warlods and other clan adovocates. Thus no changes will be made to these project which has been in the works for years. The Ethiopians can't afford to stay in Somalia, due to high level casualties and other insurgencies waging in Ocadenia and Oromia. On the other hand they can't afford to leave because there are no African union troops arriving anytime soon.

[Fabregas]

Originally posted by Emperor:

^Are you sure they are not the Somali civil war beneficiaries...

You mean Mohamed Dheere, Qeybdiid, Yalahow, Hiraale and other warlords?

[Emperor]

^No, Not at all money wise, they weren't rich neither have gained any benefit from the Somali disaster, but were tools used to prolong the Somali havoc to safegourd other people's interests, never restored peace, law and order and never taxed any Business man in their areas of control...

 

Yeah, Only tools used in a negative way and now can be used positively should they wish to do so or otherwise will hit the road as some of the mentioned names did...