General Duke Posted March 22, 2006 Has the UN said it will not review the arms embargo? As for Horn how coem you know so much about what action and when the UN will take? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaylaani Posted March 22, 2006 Yeah bring more arms into Somalia. That is very smart move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 22, 2006 ^^^ No arm the police and troops so they can secure the country, thats the agenda and the smart move.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raadamiir Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Jaylaani: Yeah bring more arms into Somalia. That is very smart move. hey jaylaani arms are already coming in to somalia in the thousands why don't you think fighting in Mogadishu is still happening everyday huh? The lifting of the ARMS EMBARGO will only help the government no one else. Everyone got arms But not everyone will have the support of the international world and an international army. The arms embargo will do just that. Like I said before if you are against the lifting of the arms embargo than you are against the government and there is not need to debate with such a person.Just look at what's going on in our capital city. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fighting flares in Somali capital Militiamen in Mogadishu Mogadishu is controlled by thousands of gunmen Heavy fighting has broken out in the north of Somalia's capital, Mogadishu, with residents fleeing from the area. Eyewitnesses say at least 23 people have been killed, and more than 50 wounded have been taken to hospitals. Supporters of some of Mogadishu's militia leaders are clashing with an armed Islamist group seeking to establish law and order. The dispute has been over the port area, which is currently controlled by powerful businessmen. The country's parliament met recently for the first time on home soil since it was formed in Kenya more than a year ago. Facts and figures about life in Somalia At-a-glance Four days of fighting last month between the two sides was some of the heaviest fighting seen in the Somali capital for several years. Clashes between armed groups have been common in Somalia since former military leader Muhammad Siad Barre was overthrown in 1991. The country has been without a functioning government since then. The BBC's Mohamed Olad Hassan in Mogadishu says the fighting in the north of the city pits a new group, the Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terrorism, against the Islamic courts' militia. At least five warlords-cum-ministers in the transitional government are behind the new alliance, opposed to the Islamic courts. The courts have set up Mogadishu's only judicial system in parts of the capital but have been accused of links to al-Qaeda. Their critics accuse the courts of being behind the killing of moderate Muslim scholars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaylaani Posted March 22, 2006 ^^^^What government? Aren't you supposed to have listed, trained NATIONAL army before you hand out weapons? There were over 40, 000 international forces in Somalia at one point, what happened? How come that didn't work? Do you think the conflict of Somalia will be solved by some one else? It takes dialog to solve conflict not guns. Somaliland went through the same shyt. There was a civil war in every town in Somaliland at one point. Than the guurte and the intellectuals went to work. As a result, the arms were dropped and the reconstruction of the country begun. Somalia should take the same path and find a way to communicate instead of over powering each other in every chance they get. Any one who has the best interest of the people in heart wouldn’t suggest to bring more arms in to a country with no significant and affective central government. That is a recipe of disaster. Develop a formula that will work and satisfy most people and sell that concept to the warlords. That is what a real president would do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raadamiir Posted March 22, 2006 How can a government be affective when the government has no power, no money? Jaylaani you seem as thought you are looking after the interest of Somalidiid so there is not reason to debate with you. You are not looking for the interest of Somaliweyn.That's the problem with us Somali's we got to think outside the BOX!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xarago Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Somali_Weyn: How can a government be affective when the government has no power, no money? take a leaf from the history of the country in the north of your border, Somaliland. We had a government that had no ruling power nor finances but Alxamdullilah through willingness of our people, the commitment of those who chose to govern and the unity of all citizens we strived and made it on to stand on our own feet, without foreign troops, money from Igad, OAU , Islamic countries. See huuno we started from the roots and gradually progressed to the top, while you guys want to built the roof first without its supporting walls let alone the base. Sincerity is what is lacking in Somalia while we had that and still do in abundance in Somaliland, Alxamdullilah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaylaani Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Somali_Weyn: How can a government be affective when the government has no power, no money? Jaylaani you seem as thought you are looking after the interest of Somalidiid so there is not reason to debate with you. You are not looking for the interest of Somaliweyn.That's the problem with us Somali's we got to think outside the BOX!!! Guns or no guns in Somalia doesn’t really impact me at all. I just thought the idea of over powering people wasn’t good one and I presented my case accordingly. You're very simple man with a simple way of thinking..……..what is wrong with talking and sorting out your difference like civilized society? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Faarax Posted March 22, 2006 Somaliweyn- u got another kacaan for us eh? ..hehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raadamiir Posted March 22, 2006 Xarago Somalidiid is one of the problems facing the Somali Government at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pure blood Posted March 22, 2006 Somaliweyn reminds me of Mohammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, Iraq's information minister. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites