raadamiir Posted March 21, 2006 Seven countries yesterday agreed to deploy security forces to Somalia to help find lasting peace in the country. Under the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development, the countries also agreed to establish a regional emergency fund involving the private sector to fight ravaging famine in the Horn of Africa. In a 56-point communiqué released after a one-day Summit in Nairobi, Presidents Kibaki, Omar El Bashir (Sudan), Abdullahi Yusuf (Somalia), Yoweri Museveni (Uganda) and Ismael Omar Guelleh (Djibouti) further welcomed the progress made in the implementation of peace deal for Sudan. Ethiopia's Prime Minister, Mr Meles Zenawi and an Eritrean Government official, also signed the agreement reached at Grand Regency Hotel, which saw the leaders cut a cake to celebrate Igad's 20th anniversary. The resolutions, read by Foreign Affairs minister Raphael Tuju, also urged the international community to help Southern Sudan and Somalia recover from many years of war. Pledges made during a donors' meeting in Oslo, Norway, last year, should be honoured to help in the reconstruction of Southern Sudan, they said. However, leaders said aid for the implementation of a Comprehensive Peace Agreement between the Khartoum Government and Sudan People's Liberation Movement/Army should not be tied to the success of the Darfur peace process. If the CPA succeeds, it would help in the search for peace in Darfur and President Bashir promised cooperation in the efforts. The leaders, most of whom jetted back home immediately after the Summit, also called for an immediate start of repatriation and resettlement of refugees and other displaced persons in Southern Sudan. The leaders said the deployment of a peace mission to Somalia should be followed by an African Union team, but were unclear when it would be done. They also urged the United Nations to lift an arms embargo on Somalia and supported the body's appeal for food for the country. The leaders expressed concern over the upsurge of piracy and terrorism on the Somali coastline and vowed to fight the vice. The governments further promised to increase allocations to agriculture to 10 per cent of national budgets to help find lasting solutions to persistent famine in the region. Food shortages President Abdullahi Yusuf of Somalia, Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi with Presidents Yoweri Museveni (Uganda), Kibaki and Omar El Bashir (Sudan) at the IGAD meeting in Nairobi. Photo/Fredrick Omondi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- President Kibaki took over from President Museveni as Igad chairman during yesterday's meeting. Some 11 million people in Kenya, Ethiopia, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea and Djibouti are faced with serious food shortages due to drought and conflicts and the fund is to target donors "who would like to deal with the region as a unit as opposed to individual countries," Mr Tuju said. The minister said the international community preferred to deal with a fund and that if formed, relief rations would be distributed across borders. They also appealed to donors to help address threats of bird flu in the region. President Kibaki took over from President Museveni as Igad chairman during yesterday's function. Source: Daily Nation, Mar. 21, 2006 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raadamiir Posted March 21, 2006 "On March 17, 2006, Francois Lonseny Fall, the UN secretary-general's special envoy for Somalia implied that the UN Security Council will lift the arms embargo on Somalia , if the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) makes such a request." They "IGAD" also urged the United Nations to lift an arms embargo on Somalia and supported the body's appeal for food for the country. THERE YOU HAVE IT PEOPLE THE ARMS EMBARGO ON SOMALIA IS GOING TO BE LIFTED. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted March 21, 2006 ^Explain to me how the arms embargo is going to be lifted. No really, I am interested.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 21, 2006 Why Horn it can be lifted by those who have imposed it. Who does this arms embargo benefit any way? Since every warlord, faction and so called buinessman can get wepons into the country when ever they want. So far its good news coming from Nairobi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted March 21, 2006 ^That's not what I ment. The nomad above us predicted the arms embargo will be lifted. I asked him how? Does Igad "urging" the arms embargo be lifted constitute a promise the arms embargo will be lifted? Who does this arms embargo benefit any way? Since every warlord, faction and so called buinessman can get wepons into the country when ever they want. It's amazing how you have politically matured. I hope you extend that maturity to your fellow compatriot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 21, 2006 ^^^ Why thanks horn, I must be learning allot from you right. As for the arms embargo, the brother was pointing towards all the signals being sent from the UN. Now we have seven countries who ocupy the horn willing to send troops and to suppor the operation. On the other hand you have seven warlords in Xamar who want to keep the embargo in place, who do you think the world will listen to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted March 21, 2006 UN to reconsider lifting arms ban on Somalia The United Nations Security Council would reconsider lifting the decade-old arms embargo against Somalia to facilitate the deployment of a regional peacekeeping force in the Horn of Africa country, a top UN envoy said in Nairobi Friday. Francois Lonseny Fall, the UN Secretary-General's Special Envoy for Somalia, said the UN Security Council was still willing to approve the deployment of peacekeepers to Somalia despite an earlier rejection of a request by the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD), peace mediation body, for the lifting last year. "The council is ready to lift the arms embargo once a request is received from the African Union. It would consider lifting the arms embargo," Fall said. The 1991 UN arms embargo was slapped when Somalia slipped into anarchy following the violent ouster of military dictator Siad Barre. Previous attempts to reconstitute a government in Somalia had failed 15 times until June last year. The African Union said it is stepping up efforts to restore peace in Somalia with the opening of an office in Somalia last year. The UN is also planning to train local army officers to establish a national army and police force. Somalia has been torn by factional fighting since the collapse of President Muhammad Siad Barre's regime 15 years ago. Clashes erupted last month in Mogadishu, the capital, and pirate attacks against aid ships have hampered UN efforts to provide emergency food at a time when severe drought has affected nearly 2 million people. Source: Xinhua Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raadamiir Posted March 21, 2006 Brother Horn your question was:Does Igad "urging" the arms embargo be lifted constitute a promise the arms embargo will be lifted? read the sentence in bold and you tell me. "On March 17, 2006, Francois Lonseny Fall, the UN secretary-general's special envoy for Somalia implied that the UN Security Council will lift the arms embargo on Somalia , if the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) makes such a request." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted March 21, 2006 Mark my words, the United Nations arms embargo on the Republic of Somalia will not be lifted. Also, "Somali_weyn" why this obsession with the arms embargo? Does not Abdulahi Yusuf's transitional administration already receive arms from Yemen and Ethiopia, among other nations, unofficially? How is the lifting of the arms embargo in the interest of the Somali nation when the sound effects of the old bunch are still ringing? In your infatuation with the lifting of the arms embargo, do you believe only the TFG will be allowed weapons as opposed to any warlord that can afford to buy them? In this instance, I do believe that wasiirada hubeysan have shown more political shrewdness and "love" of the Somali nation then our president by standing against the lifting of the arms embargo, even though its lifting will also send a green light to the various warlords and their international supporters to import weapons officially. Remember, if Ethiopia gives weapons to Abdulahi Yusuf, it is highly likely the Arabs will give weapons to the warlords and vice versa. What could you possible deem a success for the arms embargo to be lifted :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raadamiir Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by HornAfrique: Mark my words, the United Nations arms embargo on the Republic of Somalia will not be lifted. Also, "Somali_weyn" why this obsession with the arms embargo? Does not Abdulahi Yusuf's transitional administration already receive arms from Yemen and Ethiopia, among other nations, unofficially? How is the lifting of the arms embargo in the interest of the Somali nation when the sound effects of the old bunch are still ringing? In your infatuation with the lifting of the arms embargo, do you believe only the TFG will be allowed weapons as opposed to any warlord that can afford to buy them? In this instance, I do believe that wasiirada hubeysan have shown more political shrewdness and "love" of the Somali nation then our president by standing against the lifting of the arms embargo, even though its lifting will also send a green light to the various warlords and their international supporters to import weapons officially. Remember, if Ethiopia gives weapons to Abdulahi Yusuf, it is highly likely the Arabs will give weapons to the warlords and vice versa. What could you possible deem a success for the arms embargo to be lifted :confused: I don't want to Mark your words they always come out false Remember when you told me Cabduallhi yusuf would NOW become President you also said to Mark that and I did but came out to be false he overwhemly won the eletions. What you have to understand is it's not about the arms we need non-Somalians Army to help rer store hope in our fallen Nation. The national army of Somalia is being call the Puntland army. Somalians can't help Somalians any-more we need outsiders and the lifting of the arms embargo will do just that. At this moment the Government and War-lords are equal but when the arms enbargo is lifted the Government will have the upper hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted March 22, 2006 What you have to understand is it's not about the arms we need non-Somalians Army to help rer store hope in our fallen Nation. Two question. Should the restoration of our nation be subjectively pursued or addressed in a consensus? By calling for international troops, merceneries essentially, does that not mean you wish to force the Somali people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xudeedi Posted March 22, 2006 Has the U.N issued any directive regarding the lifting of the Arms embargo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabbal Posted March 22, 2006 ^Absolutely not. I just wanted to understand the mentality of those calling for the lifting of the arms embargo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted March 22, 2006 Is it visible that arms embargo of somalia be exhausted? :cool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raadamiir Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by HornAfrique: quote: What you have to understand is it's not about the arms we need non-Somalians Army to help rer store hope in our fallen Nation. Two question. Should the restoration of our nation be subjectively pursued or addressed in a consensus ? By calling for international troops, merceneries essentially, does that not mean you wish to force the Somali people? IF YOU PUT IT THAT WAY THAN YES. IF YOU ARE AGAINST THE LIFTING OF THE ARMS EMBARGO THAN YOU ARE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT AND SIDE WITH THE WAR-LORDS AND SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE DEALT WITH. A GOVERNMENT WITH NO POWER IS NO GOVERNMENT. THE SOMALI PEOPLE SUCH AS YOURSELF HORN ARE LOST THE WAR-LORDS HAVE STOLEN YOU MIND BUT INSHALLAH IT WILL RETURN ONCE THE WAR-LORDS ARE DEALT WITH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
