Political history; Jewish land purchase in Palestine

[Arafaat]

Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia

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A bit of political history on Palestine and how the in early days Jews purchased lands from Palestinians. 

[Arafaat]

Initially the Palestinians sold only a fraction of the land to Jews in the 19th century, less then 5% but this was sufficient to create foothold, justification for ownership of the total land and declare the state of Israel in 1948, to later on take the rest of the land by force and expel the majority population and majority owners of the land. The Palestianians declared a fatwa on selling land to Zionist, but it was already to late to turn things around. 

[Che -Guevara]

And Biixi wants to give land and coast to Abiy.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

biixi doesnt want to give  land  to abiye he wants to lease land to them the palestenians sold land for money there is a difference not a single inch of SL is going to be sold to the Ethiopians, but  a possible lease  same as as jabuuti leases land to china japan america france etc 

[Arafaat]

On 6/10/2024 at 1:27 AM, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

biixi doesnt want to give  land  to abiye he wants to lease land to them the palestenians sold land for money there is a difference not a single inch of SL is going to be sold to the Ethiopians, but  a possible lease  same as as jabuuti leases land to china japan america france etc 

Well those countries don't put historical claims or have narratives clamining historical rigths on the land. And they are not neighbours to you with a population of +100 mln people. If that was the case, Jabuuti would have become known only as an appetiser. 

 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

12 hours ago, Arafaat said:

Well those countries don't put historical claims or have narratives clamining historical rigths on the land. And they are not neighbours to you with a population of +100 mln people. If that was the case, Jabuuti would have become known only as an appetiser. 

 

Ethiopia claims  that Somaliland is part of Ethiopia when and where ??

[Arafaat]

Ethiopia’s Abiy takes a page from Russia, China in asserting the right to restore historical claim to strategic waters

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Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed claims his landlocked country has a right to demand maritime access to a Red Sea port from its...

“Abiy invoked a 19th-century Abyssinian warrior, Ras Alula Aba Nega, who had proclaimed the Red Sea as Ethiopia’s “natural boundary.”

 

[Arafaat]

Xunjufoow, wax bari dhacday, gabar ayee so wada koreen wiil ee qaraabo ahayeen oo wexe markasta u wada dhaqmi jireen si walaaltinimo ah. Intaaso Sano kadib wiilki oo weynaaday oo xoog batay, ayee gabadhii xafada yda oo masaxisa oo foorarta diracii kor u qaaday, wiilkii walaalalaha ahayeen ayaa marku arkay alaabtii oo soo eegisaa ayuu isla markii dalaq siiyay. Gabadhii ayaa cabaaday alla hoogayeey ba’yeey, maxaa saa u sameysay walaalkay ayaa tahay, ayuu ku yidhi walaalkaa waan ahay laakin alaabtada ayaa isoo eegtay oo bahalkan iskugu yeedhay.

Marka Xunjufoow, Cushitigu wa walaaleheen iyo dariskeen laakin ha iskugu yeedhin waxa heysidna ha usoo bandhigin, wa intaase dalaq siiyane.  

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Thé only people that want to destroy somaliland and capture somaliland are the koonfurians in the bunker do not tell me about the Ethiopian boogeyman Arafat. Surely Ethiopians have had their eyes on the Red Sea but it isn’t just Somaliland abiye Ahmed didnt say that he is after sl sea he could be after Eritreans or jabuutis or even Somalia. We remain firm we have defended our land from all sort of enemies s did our grandfathers . The noble men of the north know how to defend their land. 

[Che -Guevara]

Arafaat,

Let Xaaji be it.  He first would have to settle his internal and often contradictory feelings before he can embark on any meaningful discussion on Ethiopia's intentions.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

3 hours ago, Arafaat said:

Xunjufoow, wax bari dhacday, gabar ayee so wada koreen wiil ee qaraabo ahayeen oo wexe markasta u wada dhaqmi jireen si walaaltinimo ah. Intaaso Sano kadib wiilki oo weynaaday oo xoog batay, ayee gabadhii xafada yda oo masaxisa oo foorarta diracii kor u qaaday, wiilkii walaalalaha ahayeen ayaa marku arkay alaabtii oo soo eegisaa ayuu isla markii dalaq siiyay. Gabadhii ayaa cabaaday alla hoogayeey ba’yeey, maxaa saa u sameysay walaalkay ayaa tahay, ayuu ku yidhi walaalkaa waan ahay laakin alaabtada ayaa isoo eegtay oo bahalkan iskugu yeedhay.

Marka Xunjufoow, Cushitigu wa walaaleheen iyo dariskeen laakin ha iskugu yeedhin waxa heysidna ha usoo bandhigin, wa intaase dalaq siiyane.  

Bit erotic dear lad hahaha aad baan u qoslay

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

1 hour ago, Che -Guevara said:

Arafaat,

Let Xaaji be it.  He first would have to settle his internal and often contradictory feelings before he can embark on any meaningful discussion on Ethiopia's intentions.

On the contrary xaaji xunjuf is always consistent and no contradictory on his part . Protecting Somaliland interest is what iam after and objective . The moment Ethiopias interest do not align with what ever security arraignment they have reached that will fly out of the window . Israel and Egypt and Israel and Jordan. Israel and uae all have relations doesn’t mean they have to like each other but because they have common interest it is fine now. The Persians are the enemy now. The Persians are the enemy of the  Israelites and ishmaelites. Politics is thé art of deception and camouflaged motives . In 1960 Somaliland united with Somalia why because of fear of Haile sellasie back then yes the atmosphere was different Ethiopia conquest was real and tangible fast move forward. Ethiopia is a country based on kilil regions the country is ruled by gallas not the clever by half Amhara chauvinist. Eritrean rebels have successfully seceded from the empire . Today Somaliland isn’t uniting with Ethiopia because it’s scared of Somalia . Somalia can’t hurt somaliland in its current formation how ever it might hurt Somaliland when it is resurrected from the ashes . This is how SL Preparing it self  for Somaliland it’s goals is recognition. All roads lead to Somaliland protecting its interests in this volatile region. Called the Horn of Africa . Anigu ma sheegin if some how a leader in SL stands up  or a leader in the bunker stands up and really addresses the contentious issue between the two nations and once and for all solve it with huge concessions on both sides but I don’t see that happening . The bunker is convinced it can defeat Ethiopia by writing letters to the United Nations and European Union . Or signing fish deals with the Turks. Wake up che do u think we don’t know the intentions of Ethiopia I am old enough to remember what our people endured  the last half a century we share the longest border worked and lived inside Ethiopia. We know what they want but we also know what we want. The problem is the bunker takes us for granted .but maalin kale bay ka shalayn doonan.

[Arafaat]

2 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

Arafaat,

Let Xaaji be it.  He first would have to settle his internal and often contradictory feelings before he can embark on any meaningful discussion on Ethiopia's intentions.

True, but I really do not understand why feelings and such can’t be set aside, specially when it comes to foreign affairs, given the daily lessons we can observe of the constant changing relationships and dynamics between countries. And why we can’t simply come to a basic and common understanding  ‘that foreign politics isn’t about love and hate, friends and enemies, but about short and long interest, opportunities, risks and relationship dynamics and factors under constant change’.

The Palestinians in the 19th century and begin of 20th century never ever would have thought that Jews would ever become a player in the Middle East or let alone take over their country and push them out. 

The Ukranians in the 1990’s never ever doubted giving up their Nukes to Russia, or leasing Crimea Port to Russia’s Navy and that considered that ur would ever be used against them, let alone Crimea being annexed together with a third of their country by their brotherly Neighbor. 

 

 

[Arafaat]

59 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Israel and Egypt and Israel and Jordan. Israel and uae all have relations doesn’t mean they have to like each other but because they have common interest it is fine now.

Nobody doubts this, but you won’t see countries allowing (by choice) or leasing military bases from much bigger or more power neighbouring countries on their soil. 

[Arafaat]

1 hour ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

In 1960 Somaliland united with Somalia why because of fear of Haile sellasie back then yes the atmosphere was different Ethiopia conquest was real and tangible fast move forward. 

4 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Thé only people that want to destroy somaliland and capture somaliland are the koonfurians in the bunker do not tell me about the Ethiopian boogeyman Arafat. Surely Ethiopians have had their eyes on the Red Sea but it isn’t just Somaliland abiye Ahmed didnt say that he is after sl sea he could be after Eritreans or jabuutis or even Somalia. 

By your own words you admit that not much has changed in the political behavior of the leaders, and just as they were led in 1960’s by the emotions of fears, animosity (Ethiopia) and brethren love (Italian Somalia) without making rationele and objective political calculations, they are today behaving in the same manner and making calculations based on sentiments rather then objective calculations but then with the roles turned around. 

What has also not changed, is that in the run-up to the unification of 1960’s, anyone who questioned the political narrative based on sentiments of those days, and dared to suggest to consider a less hastened unification would be scolded (La ya Garaad) or even thrown bottles at them (Cigaal). Today not much has changed, anyone dare to suggest for a sensible approach and reconsider approach based on populous sentiments is scolded as being anti-Somaliland.