Islamic insurgents in Somalia threaten revenge on America

[Koora-Tuunshe]

If these threats gain practical support , Somali diasporas in favor of Al-Shababists who protest in favor of this brutal group and thus abuse the rights given to them to live in peace and harmony in America would belong to the Interrogation rooms of Homeland Security. This is a dangerous and desperate measures taken by the hardline Al-shabaabists and their supporters.

 

Islamic insurgents in Somalia threaten revenge on America

By MOHAMED OLAD HASSAN, Associated Press Writer

Fri May 2, 4:27 PM ET

 

MOGADISHU, Somalia - A U.S. airstrike that killed the suspected al-Qaida leader in Somalia brought warnings of vengeance from Islamic insurgents Friday and the threat of a boycott that could jeopardize peace talks with the U.N.-supported government.

 

The biggest alliance supporting Somalia's Islamic insurgency said it might pull out of planned May 10 talks on escalating fighting and a humanitarian crisis that has caused thousands of civilian deaths and displaced hundreds of thousands over the past year.

 

"The U.S. strike can undermine the U.N.-sponsored peace parlay," said Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed, exiled chairman of the Alliance for Liberation and Reconstitution of Somalia.

 

"We will reconsider taking part ... due to the U.S. military attack," he said in a telephone interview from Cairo, Egypt.

 

The participation of Ahmed's alliance, which includes both moderates and Islamic hard-liners inside Somalia and in exile, is seen as crucial to the success of talks scheduled in neighboring Djibouti.

 

In a pre-dawn attack Thursday, U.S. missiles destroyed the house of reputed al-Qaida leader Aden Hashi Ayro in the central town of Dusamareeb. The attack killed 24 other people, five in the targeted house and the others in nearby homes, said a town elder, Ilmi Hassan Arab.

 

It was the first major success in a string of such U.S. military attacks over the past year in this Horn of Africa nation, but analysts said it was more symbolic and unlikely to significantly weaken the insurgency against the weak interim government.

 

"This will not deter us from prosecuting our holy war against Allah's enemy," Sheik Muqtar Robow, a spokesman for Ayro's al-Shabab militia said in a telephone interview. "If Ayro is dead, those he trained are still in place and ready to avenge against the enemy of Allah."

 

Robow said another senior al-Shabab leader, Sheik Muhidin Mohamud Omar, also was killed in the attack.

 

He said the revenge threat applied to citizens of countries friendly to the United States and to neighboring Ethiopia, which has sent troops to fight Somalia's insurgents.

 

But his harshest threat was reserved for Americans: "We know our enemy," Robow said. "It is impossible to hit missiles on our people and we let your citizens come to our country. We warn them to stay out of our country."

 

Thursday's hit was a "pretty significant indication" of improving U.S. and Somali intelligence counterterrorism cooperation, said Mark Schroeder, the Africa analyst for Stratfor, an independent intelligence risk assessment agency based in Austin, Texas.

 

Schroeder said his information indicated Ayro arrived at the house only three hours before the attack, showing "very rapid and excellent intelligence" that would make other possible U.S. targets wary of exposing themselves, especially at the high-profile peace conference.

 

"That will probably cause the Islamists to cancel those talks," he said.

 

Al-Shabab, labeled a terrorist organization by Washington, is believed to have up to 7,000 mainly youthful fighters, Schroeder said. They concentrate on hit-and-run attacks on Ethiopian troops and briefly occupying towns for several hours at a time, killing government soldiers and seizing their weapons.

 

Without Ethiopian support, Somali's shaky government likely would fall, he said.

 

David Hartwell of Jane's Defense analyst group said the impact of Thursday's strike "is more likely to have a symbolic effect" than operational.

 

"Insurgent leaders have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and other parts of the world, and there is an established order, so someone usually comes in to replace them," he said.

 

Ayro had stopped fighting on the front lines after he was wounded in a January 2007 American airstrike, but could still have been instrumental in strategy and other planning.

 

Schroeder said the overall commanders of the insurgency remain alive, including Ayro's mentor, Hassan Turki, who escaped a U.S. attack in March and remains in hiding in southern Somalia.

 

Al-Shabab is the armed wing of the Council of Islamic Courts movement, which seized control of much of southern Somalia, including the capital, Mogadishu, in 2006. Ethiopian troops allied with the U.N.-backed government drove the movement from power in December 2006.

 

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Associated Press writers Salad Duhul in Mogadishu and Katharine Houreld and Michelle Faul in Nairobi, Kenya, contributed to this report.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

If these threats gain practical support , Somali diasporas in favor of Al-Shababists who protest in favor of this brutal group and thus abuse the rights given to them to live in peace and harmony in America would belong to the Interrogation rooms of Homeland Security. This is a dangerous and desperate measures taken by the hardline Al-shabaabists and their supporters.

What are you bluffing about? Ma saasaa Homeland or Whateverland Security ugu baqdaa?

 

For your own darn information: Naf, heybad, xoriyad iyo sumcadba Eebba ayaa haayo, not some old, weak caddaan unbelieving men in some old corridors of so-called earthly power.

 

Fuleysanaa waxa. Any Soomaali group xaq ayee u leedahay to resist Xabashi occupation.

 

I would take anytime Ceyroow to be the leader of my country than a Xabashi-worshipping, feeble-minded puppet of Beerlaawahaan madaxyaraha madaxweynaha sheeganaayo.

[Abtigiis]

MMA

a gentle reminder part two of the short story is posted isla halkii!

[General Duke]

Koora-Tuunshe

Is correct these people have always underestimated the issues facing them. their calls for violence has come home to haunt them. Thus this new threat will haunt many gullible supporters who raise money and funding and might actually hurt the communities in North America and Europe.

[Koora-Tuunshe]

Moderator, saxib cayda jooji.

 

These people have declared war on America. It is only a rhetoric, but it might have an effect on the decision making process of policy makers on national security.

 

Thank Duke.

[rudy-Diiriye]

some body should tell this homie! u dont have to kiss azz to live in america. ppl are free here and can support who they want.

 

america is not like yeeyland!!

[General Duke]

^^^lol. Go ahead support who you want, but you support a group on the US terror list your *** is gone.

[Nephissa]

Better to be jailed and/or disappear in the middle of the night never to be seen again..and remain moral and true to your cause.

[Geel_jire]

Originally posted by Koora-Tuunshe:

If these threats gain practical support ,

Somali diasporas in favor of Al-Shababists who protest in favor of this brutal group and thus abuse the rights given to them to live in peace and harmony in America would belong to the Interrogation rooms of Homeland Security.

This is a dangerous and desperate measures taken by the hardline Al-shabaabists and their supporters.

... Koora sida weel madhan wixii rabo ayaa laguugu shuban kara yaah .... did you hear that lil tidbit on Faux news ???

 

I'm disappointed yaa Koora it appears i have given you too much credit. to protest on behalf of any group is not an abuse of a right granted by the government in fact quite the opposite

 

The right of assembly was originally closely tied to the right to petition. One significant case involving the two rights was United States v. Cruikshank (1876). There, the Supreme Court held that citizens may "assemble for the purpose of petitioning Congress for a redress of grievances." Essentially, it was held that the right to assemble was secondary, while the right to petition was primary. Later cases, however, have expanded the meaning of the right to assembly. Hague v. CIO (1939), for instance, refers to the right to assemble for the "communication of views on national questions" and for "disseminating information."

I would suggest you read up on Right to petition in the United States and Freedom of assembly not even your beloved neo-cons can change this ...

 

and just incase you believe in human rights

 

The right to form groups, to organise and to assemble together with the aim of addressing issues of common concern is a human right. The ability to organise is an important means by which citizens can influence their governments and leaders. The right to freedom of association and assembly is protected in international and regional human rights treaties. These rights are applicable to any issue. Mass protest is a potent symbol of the exercise of this right.

I'm a firm believer of "Hadii la dhimanayana xataa dhareerka waa la iska duwaa" ... lakin whoever has already decided on prostituting himself to uncle sam ... hadii lagu aadamo xataa wax ka tari mayso

[Koora-Tuunshe]

How is supporting a group that publicly announced its affiliation with Al-Qaeda, vowed to attack American soil in retaliation of Ayro 's kiling, be a God-given right?

 

Your blind support for Al-shabab and their ferocious leaders made fool out of yourselves.

 

It was them who declared war on TFG and later on Ethiopia and now they have issued threats to fight the most powerful country in the world.

 

How are you going to entrust the responsibility of the governance of your country with such unsophisicated people?

[Koora-Tuunshe]

Dotster under fire for Web content

The Columbian

By COURTNEY SHERWOOD, Columbian staff writer

Tuesday, May 06, 2008

 

A group of self-described anti-terrorist vigilantes has put the heat on Vancouver-based Dotster Inc. for hosting an Arabic- and Somali- language Web site that frequently praises leaders in Somalia’s al-Qaida organization.

 

Dotster officials said they pass along all complaints to law enforcement agencies, but unless required by law, the company does not remove its customers’ content from the Internet.

 

The site under fire, kataaib.net, is associated with the Shabab movement in war- and genocide-torn Somalia, according to reports from the BBC and Reuters. In addition to praising Islamist militants, the site lists news about battles and bombings in Somalia. “Kataaib” is Arabic for “Brigades.”

 

Florida resident Bill Warner, who describes himself as an anti-terrorist vigilante, is among a collection of online activists who want to use public pressure on Dotster to get kataaib.net shut down. Dotster, a Web registration and hosting company, generates revenue by hosting Web sites. It has hosted kataaib.net since April 13, 2007, according to Internet records.

 

“The actual terrorists are out in the field blowing things up,” Warner said. “But there are groups like this one that associate with al-Qaida through Web sites, that help promote the ideology, help find new recruits and help the effort to support terrorism.”

 

“We are not in a position to judge and be a jury on what content may be legal or acceptable,” said Brian Unruh, chief financial officer at Dotster. He would not comment specifically about kataaib.net, except to say, “We feel we have escalated this to the right authorities.”

 

Complaints routine

 

Dotster routinely receives complaints about Web sites it hosts, and evaluates each complaint before forwarding on potentially criminal sites to law enforcement agencies, Unruh said.

 

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the right to freedom of speech and expression, and for that reason Dotster attempts to be very careful about balancing the rights of its customers with other concerns, Unruh said.

 

“We don’t censor people based on what they say, as long as it’s legal,” he said. “We may not agree with some activities our customers do, but we are not in a position to be judge and jury. If the authorities issue an order to take down a site, we follow that order.”

 

The legal process that might eventually lead to an order to take down kataaib.net is too slow, Warner said. He hopes that attention and a public outcry may change Dotster officials’ minds.

 

“It’s not freedom of speech,” Warner said. “This site should not be hosted in Vancouver.”

 

Courtney Sherwood covers high-tech businesses. Reach her at 360-735-4553 or courtney.sherwood@columbian.com

 

Source: The Columbian, May 06, 2008

[Jacpher]

I think some of you are pushing too far. I don't think you should refer each other as dameer supporter or quraansho lover.

 

It was them who

declared war

on TFG and later

on Ethiopia

and now they have issued threats to fight the most powerful country in the world.

Actually Ethiopia was already in the country when the courts issued an ultimatum but Ethiopia never confirmed. That confirmation arrived in migs flying over Moqdisho skyline.

[Abtigiis]

I am also reassessing my premature positive judgement on the seemingly incorrigible Koora! Clearly, writing eruditely doesn't entirely compensate for luck of brain.

 

And the book says, in the eighth epoch, They will all march very profound like a genuine part of the Literati!...The fools!

 

But, you can make out the lines of impiety, sin and egotism so clearly etched on they features., if you are wise! The book guides...

[LayZie G.]

How is supporting a group that publicly announced its affiliation with Al-Qaeda, vowed to attack American soil in retaliation of Ayro 's kiling, be a God-given right?

Koora, dadkaan weydii where was ayro when the very same people here fled somalia and wanted resettle else where?

 

Did ayro give you greencard dadyahow? did he welcome you with open arms?

 

Did ayro provide you with the opportunity that you have found in the west?

 

Did he put your children to school? Did he fed your children? Did he give you and your family shelter?

 

Did he place you at the workforce?

 

I don't think so.

 

Some of you folks need to reassess your thinking.

 

Your loyalty should be with your adopted country, not a late terrorist and his army.

 

 

Your adopted country took you in when no one else would.

 

You people turn around and repay back by siding with terrorist organization such as al shabaab?

 

No wonder aad flight13 niladhihi jiray. Somali wax isxaan ay tusayaan majirto, no wonder 18 yrs aan is layneyne.

 

 

PS:Robow can fire up all the threats he wants, but soon he will be the next one blown up to pieces. Too much tough talk ain't gonna get him anywhere, especially when he wants to start killing the aid people. After all, thats the only thing he can do, is get hold of american aid workers and slid their throats for a way to avenge for his brother?

 

Aqligiisa is to turn around on aid workers, the very same aid workers who risk their lives to saving the very same people he and the rest want iney xormimeeyaan from the amxaaro? Aqli xayawaan @robow

[General Duke]

^^^I am reassesing my post bad judgement of Layzy girl here. I think she has proven she has her own brain and thus needs no more bad press.

 

Koora-Tuunshe, you are 100% right old man.